Shadowrun 5 & a lot more in 2013! |
Shadowrun 5 & a lot more in 2013! |
Dec 21 2012, 08:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 206 Joined: 21-November 09 Member No.: 17,893 |
Hoi Chummers,
You HAVE to read this! http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/download/T...20Shadowrun.pdf Happy Awakening! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) |
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Dec 21 2012, 08:12 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
/facepalm
Great, another edition. *sigh* |
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Dec 21 2012, 08:14 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 30-July 09 Member No.: 17,450 |
Well, I, for one, welcome our new draconic overlords. I'm excited about everything save Fifth Edition. I'm cautiously excited, but I'll wanna see how big of a change it is. They specifically say it's building on 4th edition, so here's hoping my huge pile of books will still be relevant.
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Dec 21 2012, 08:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 28-November 09 Member No.: 17,909 |
Seeing as I might actually have a group I can play next year a new edition with streamlined matrix rules and less books (at least crunchwise) might be a good starting point...
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Dec 21 2012, 08:23 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
SR TCG
SR5 SR Tactical Miniature Game SR Boardgame SRO SRR |
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Dec 21 2012, 08:25 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
What concerns me is, if 5E becomes the default ruleset for both SRR and SRO.
I like the idea of having a good, solid "runnign start" crunchwise, if they were close parallels to 4E. That goes away, if they use 5E. *shrug* |
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Dec 21 2012, 08:33 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,642 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
General feelings about this: Meh.
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Dec 21 2012, 08:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 16-September 10 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 19,051 |
It's great to see that Shadowrun is doing fine - launching that many new games is a sign of success. But should I do now with all my 4A rulebooks? %)
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Dec 21 2012, 08:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 558 Joined: 21-May 08 Member No.: 15,997 |
I'm kind of interested to see what they do with it. Sounds like they haven't changed too much--and I for one would LOVE some better Matrix rules.
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Dec 21 2012, 09:07 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
What concerns me is, if 5E becomes the default ruleset for both SRR and SRO. I like the idea of having a good, solid "runnign start" crunchwise, if they were close parallels to 4E. That goes away, if they use 5E. For all I remember, they planned to use 4E as a base for 5E. It's probably the same as 2E-3E Transition. I'm kind of interested to see what they do with it. Sounds like they haven't changed too much--and I for one would LOVE some better Matrix rules. Yeah. It's not like this isn't pretty much copypasing what EVERY previous new eidition was supposed to bring. It's great to see that Shadowrun is doing fine - launching that many new games is a sign of success. But should I do now with all my 4A rulebooks? %) Or Overextension. I hope it isn't, but especially a minis game is a fantastic way to sink cash if it doesn't take off. The idea of a minis game reminds me of that infamous Chris Lonsing newsletter of old ... General feelings about this: Meh. I second that. Just when I have gotten used to the last new edition. I do like the idea of an in-gameworld news feed though. |
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Dec 21 2012, 09:25 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
Told you so: A new edition with promises for better Matrix rules (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
First of all THE END OF THE MAYAN CALENDAR (and Awakening) IN SHADOWRUN IS IN 2011, NOT IN 2012. This has always been the case, this has never been retconed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Other than that, I'm curious to see what the new products will turn out to be. I'm really on the fence about SR5, seeing how I disliked many things (both fluff and rules) of all new books since WAR! But I'll give the developers a last chance. I hope that the "grittier and deadlier" will survive the first additional books. And I really don't like the sound of "Increased Gear Option". I always felt that Shadowrun had too many toys with complicated special rules. I hope that these increased gear option won't make it even worse. And I really really hope that it's not a way to be able to release even more stupid and useless gear books sold to players so that they can raise their character's power by 5% for $10. There are already enough stupid power boost DLC in my video games, I don't need them in my RPG. |
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Dec 21 2012, 09:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 16-September 10 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 19,051 |
Or Overextension. I hope it isn't, but especially a minis game is a fantastic way to sink cash if it doesn't take off. The idea of a minis game reminds me of that infamous Chris Lonsing newsletter of old ... I don't know a thing about boardgames or card games, but bringing in Ross Watson is good news all way round, hope he will do some work on fifth edition. The same I can say about Cool Mini, they will most definitely be doing the miniature project. They are, at the very least, a familiar devil. |
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Dec 21 2012, 09:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 13-November 11 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 43,494 |
I hope they also fixed the stupid vehicle rules and perception rules (esp. vehicle perception)
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Dec 21 2012, 09:44 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
I thought SRR uses a Variant of SR3 for their basic system?
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Dec 21 2012, 10:59 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,076 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Rock Hill, SC Member No.: 7,655 |
If they would unfuck technomancers and adepts, I would be very thankful.
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Dec 21 2012, 11:10 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Technomancers are powerful enough as is. They need to be properly rebalanced.
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Dec 21 2012, 11:13 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 7-August 02 Member No.: 3,076 |
Call me cynical, but I don't expect a big improvement over 4e. And I'm not looking forward to CGL restarting the splat treadmill.
OTOH, I am looking forward to Shadowrun Returns. So there's that, at least. |
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Dec 21 2012, 11:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,625 |
I hope 'grittier and deadlier' indicates the return of LMSD Damage.
Everything there is something I already do, so I'm either going to be really happy with my new SR games and broke, or... less broke. |
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Dec 21 2012, 11:41 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,642 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
I hope not.
I hope it means an overhaul of the armor / encumbrance / body system. |
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Dec 21 2012, 11:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 6-August 06 Member No.: 9,032 |
To all the people wondering what to do with their rulebooks: Sell them off NOW if you don't want them anymore! Chances are most people haven't heard this piece of news yet, so they are still worth something. In a few weeks, this may very well be different. I sold mine half a year ago and got a really good price (complete german SR4 series), so from my experience I can only encourage you. For me personally, it was also a great chance to go all digital from now on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dec 21 2012, 11:48 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,642 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
Never. I don't sell books, ever. ^^
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Dec 21 2012, 11:52 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
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Dec 21 2012, 11:54 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Back to the SR3 Damage/Armor-System
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Dec 21 2012, 12:01 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,642 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
Please no. It also depends on the horrible horrible floating TNs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
Would even be a won't-buy-argument for me. |
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Dec 21 2012, 12:10 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 8,915 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully they will manage to keep the smoothness of 4th Edition alive, while removing the ambiguity and some balance issues. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
About the Deckbuilding Game... also looking forward to it, that could be fun. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But "it features the very best designers in card games" ... I won't say that they are not great, but the "very best" list would certainly have to have a few other names on it, like Richard Garfield. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) More sceptical about the Miniature Game, but we will see ... Boardgame also sounds cool. Lords of Waterdeep is a really good game. If they try for something similar, that's certainly a good thing. I would really, really like a Shadowrun game that is similar to Descent, though (but with game-controlled enemies, aka Castle Ravenloft, etc., not an actual game master; could just play regular SR then). And the computer games are in development for some time now, absolutely looking forward to those. All in all, this will hopefully be a good year for Shadowrun! My best wishes to Catalyst - make the right decisions! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Bye Thanee |
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