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post Feb 2 2013, 09:15 AM
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/facepalm
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post Feb 2 2013, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Lionhearted @ Feb 2 2013, 10:07 AM) *
Don't want to start an enviromental debate... Yes, green thinking is a choice... Right now, it won't be for much longer. I personally think that attitude stinks, but let's just leave it at that. Not the time or place.


QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 2 2013, 10:15 AM) *
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No need to respond on that, Pax.
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post Feb 2 2013, 11:59 AM
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I brought up a potentially volatile subject to begin with, my apologies.

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post Feb 2 2013, 12:47 PM
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Yes, but you realised it and asked to not discuss the topic any further.
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post Feb 2 2013, 02:05 PM
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So ... what, I'm not allowed to be mildly frustrated when it turns out all my sincere efforts to answer someone's request for explanation, were really answering the wrong question? Or else I get the Mod Voice treatment??

...

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Okay, then. O_o
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post Feb 2 2013, 03:22 PM
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Eh. Whole thread just became irrelevant for a few days anyway. IT'S HERE!! Off I go to set it up - clear off and move the desk, etc, etc, etc .... ^_^
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post Feb 2 2013, 03:44 PM
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For a few days? you expecting a nuclear turnout? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 2 2013, 04:34 PM
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I've been without the ability to play games more advanced than "Plants versus Zombies" since the day after Christmas; my laptop has a Window Experience index of only 4.7, as it was only ever intended for web-browsing, PDF reading, running HeroLab, and similar tasks; meanwhile, the new PC (using it right now) has a 7.8 (and the video sub-rating is 7.9), out of 7.9 possible.

And while I was without a gaming-capable PC, Borderlands 2 came out with a new DLC ... Skyri is about to drop a new PC ...

So, yeah. I'll be popping in now and again, of course. But most of my attention is going to be securely held by finally getting my fix ... O_O hehehe
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post Feb 2 2013, 05:26 PM
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Luckily I got a 3ds to occupy myself with until I can afford a new computer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
Close to 500+ hours put into Pokémon B&W (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 2 2013, 05:32 PM
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i have a gaming laptop in addition to my gaming computer . .
hell, even my old computer still works and can run most games at medium settings reasonably well . .
redundancy is an important thing in the world of computing!
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post Feb 4 2013, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Feb 1 2013, 07:21 PM) *
Someone out there must think that double-GPU setups are worth the weight, heat, power consumption, price, and so forth.


High end video cards aren't just for gaming. The other two areas are 3D engineering software and video rendering. When you're talking about long animations, every little bit of power helps.
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post Feb 4 2013, 01:43 PM
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bitcoin mining.
seti @ home
everything else that can be GPU accellerated
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post Feb 4 2013, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 4 2013, 09:43 AM) *
bitcoin mining.
seti @ home
everything else that can be GPU accellerated


I'm talking legitimate uses. Bitcoin is a sham. SETI@Home is just a way to make sure your power consumption is doing something rather than idling.
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post Feb 4 2013, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Feb 4 2013, 08:33 AM) *
High end video cards aren't just for gaming. The other two areas are 3D engineering software and video rendering. When you're talking about long animations, every little bit of power helps.


How much of an impact does the GPU have on image processing (like photoshop)? Or is that more a function of RAM?
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post Feb 4 2013, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Feb 4 2013, 10:52 AM) *
How much of an impact does the GPU have on image processing (like photoshop)? Or is that more a function of RAM?


For photoshop? I believe it derives more from RAM than GPU. Engineering programs do benefit since they render, especially with 3D engineering programs.
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post Feb 5 2013, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE (Ryu @ Feb 1 2013, 10:59 PM) *
That cooling system looks sweet. How much noise reduction do you get from that setup?


sorry, busy weekend plannign a run and then getting shot at during a run (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

self built watercooling systems can be as quiet as you want all the way to silent if you can find room for all the radiators and don't push the power too high.

the simple way it works :

rather than

having ONE fan at high speeds pushing air into a CPU / GPU mounted heatsink, which is loud!

you have many (two or three or four or six) LOW RPM fans mounted on the radiators ..

the water is more effective at heat transfer and the radiator better distributes heat away from the case with help from the gentle fans.

it is a LOT of effort to get the same or slightly more benefit but with the reduction in noise it makes sense.

so, now I can hear Mrs. Mach screaming at me for spending too much time on the PC
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plus with water you can overclock a bit more and generate about 10 -15 degrees more heat that the water system can dissipate better than air alone
BUT I'm sure that others will say, it's not always the case.

the AIO systems are good but it's just being more efficient at moving the heat from the CPU to outside the case as opposed to air cooled alone.

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post Feb 5 2013, 12:38 PM
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Oh and PAX !! come on man .... Piccies ! .. show us the rig
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post Feb 5 2013, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (Mach_Ten @ Feb 5 2013, 08:37 AM) *
the water is more effective at heat transfer and the radiator better distributes heat away from the case with help from the gentle fans.


Real men use mercury cooled systems instead of water cooled.
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post Feb 5 2013, 06:41 PM
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Real men are often also stupid if that's true O.o
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 5 2013, 06:41 PM) *
Real men are often also stupid if that's true O.o


Bah .. what's a small dose of Mercury poisoning between Chummers ?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 5 2013, 06:54 PM
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if it gets out, it's still a conductive liquid flowing around my hardware, that's a small dose of mercury poisoning between chummers.
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 5 2013, 02:54 PM) *
if it gets out, it's still a conductive liquid flowing around my hardware, that's a small dose of mercury poisoning between chummers.


Liquid metal cooling is superior to water cooling (health hazards aside). The problem is that a lot of the other options (Sodium and Lead) are solid at the temperatures computers operate at.
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:38 PM
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I like my rig to be liquid helium-cooled.
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:43 PM
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And what are you all doing if a fan or two isn't cooling enough? (Then again I'm a cheap bastard and don't want to pay for that other stuff.)
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post Feb 5 2013, 07:49 PM
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Indeed. My understanding was the liquid-cooling systems usually use a non-conductive alcohol-based coolant, not water, for the very same reason.

However, a mercury cooled system certainly would LOOK neater.
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