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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 935 Joined: 2-September 10 Member No.: 19,000 ![]() |
Right. So this is how they're going to do away with hacking via commlink - not some kind of mega security thing, just making it generally a really bad idea to go into the matrix via SimSense, without some pretty beefy protection between your brain and these ..... "e-Shedim", or whatever they wind up being called. Instead, you're going to need to have a largely hardware filter between your brain, and the matrix - which means a larger physical device. Going Hot VR, maybe going VR at all, is going to be given some of the same risks that going Astral while unguarded: "Something Bad could move in while you're not at home". ... The bugger of it is, even if I just guessed EXACTLY correct, and even if I swore up and down, 'till I was blue in the face ... folks like Bull who're "in the know", won't tell me before 5E happens. Damn you all! ;D (NOTE: if it actually goes down that way, just remember ... I called it first. ^_^ ) My initial response to this post almost contained a Lady Gaga reference. And then I realized it was a Lady Gaga reference. |
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#102
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Old Man Jones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 ![]() |
Hermit, you do realize that when most people hear the term "brainhack", they aren't thinking about the Shadowrun Hacking skill?
It's a made up term anyhow. Your definition of the word isn't the only possible one. -k |
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#103
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
"Mungo, hack his brain." "Cantz, no haz Commlink in himz." "No, Mungo... Have you forgotten your monoblade?" "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... MUNGO HACK!!!"
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#104
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 ![]() |
Hermit, you do realize that when most people hear the term "brainhack", they aren't thinking about the Shadowrun Hacking skill? It's a made up term anyhow. Your definition of the word isn't the only possible one. -k i really wouldn't bother trying to have this discussion with him. it didn't work before. i can't fathom why it would suddenly start working now. |
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#105
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
Mh, flamebait.
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#106
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 ![]() |
If it actually goes that way, I'm going to have to vomit and scream "RUINED FOREVER!" Because that's retarded. Very, very retarded. I'd rather write it off to 'Jack having brain cancer from too many years of slotting questionably shielded plugs into his datajack than have even more absurdly annoying possession crap. What would that make, four major antagonists in the habit of possessing bodies? |
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#107
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 3-July 10 Member No.: 18,786 ![]() |
"Mungo, hack his brain." "Cantz, no haz Commlink in himz." "No, Mungo... Have you forgotten your monoblade?" "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... MUNGO HACK!!!" CanRay, please get in touch with CGL to get Mungo canonized. He's both the hero we need, and the one we deserve. |
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#108
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,139 Joined: 31-March 10 From: UCAS Member No.: 18,391 ![]() |
It still cracks me up that they canonized Drop bears.
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#109
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 ![]() |
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#110
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 ![]() |
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#111
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 ![]() |
It still cracks me up that they canonized Drop bears. Might have something to do with that a dumpshocker wrote it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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#112
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,139 Joined: 31-March 10 From: UCAS Member No.: 18,391 ![]() |
Might have something to do with that a dumpshocker wrote it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Oh I'm not complaining. I just think it's funny. I was in Running Wild Last night looking up Techno-critters, and happened across the Drop bear write up. Cracked up a bit. |
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#113
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Tilting at Windmills ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 ![]() |
You know that I didn't do that, right? That they were there before, and I just got to use them for that section? Believe me, I'd take credit for it if I could, but I can't.
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#114
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 ![]() |
Then who did?
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#115
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Tilting at Windmills ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 ![]() |
Drop bears first appeared in Target: Awakened Lands, IIRC. I can't recall who wrote that particular chunk of the Australia writeup, though. I can poke around and find out if it's really important.
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#116
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The back-up plan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 8,423 Joined: 15-January 03 From: San Diego Member No.: 3,910 ![]() |
Using the Optional Rule for More Powerful Swarms:
Base Cost for a Drop Bear (Using Super secret formulae) 37,500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) Warform Abilities: Attribute Enhancement (Agility), Skill Enhancement (Shadowing) Random Side Effect of Breeding - Gestalt Consciousness Warform Cost: 97,500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) each 12 Warform Dropbears in a Rating 3 Mischief -- Gain optional power Sapience Advanced Training with Willpower of 5, means a x35 cost multiplier Net Cost: 40,950,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) for a crack team of Red Samurai Dropbears, gear not included. Proof that I sometimes have far too much time on my hands... |
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#117
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 5-February 10 Member No.: 18,115 ![]() |
Wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold the phone.
What's this about "optional power Sapience"? *dives for his books* ~Umi |
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#118
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 5-February 10 Member No.: 18,115 ![]() |
Okay, so points against my notion - 1) it's an optional rule and 2) the additional powers are determined by the GM. But! The ruling specifically allows Sapience, so my notion is at least possible.
But there is one more crucial consideration - how Essence is handled with Swarms. (Yes, I'm breaking the Special Infected rules again. Fun, isn't it?) So let's say you have a swarm of bees at Rating 6, with the Sapience power, which makes them a valid target of Essence Drain. You drain up to 3 points of Essence (but no more, as the Rating of the Swarm will drop with the Essence, and you only get one power per 3 points of Rating). Since bees go from eggs to full adults in less than a month, with proper management the swarm ought to replenish itself in time for your next monthly feeding. Voila. Renewable Essence that you can keep in a small greenhouse. Keep two hives for redundancy, or just to stay ahead of the feeding curve. ~Umi |
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#119
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,003 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 ![]() |
Beware the sapient Africanized bees.
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#120
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
There was a movie about this once ...
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#121
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Horror ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 ![]() |
Okay, so points against my notion - 1) it's an optional rule and 2) the additional powers are determined by the GM. But! The ruling specifically allows Sapience, so my notion is at least possible. But there is one more crucial consideration - how Essence is handled with Swarms. (Yes, I'm breaking the Special Infected rules again. Fun, isn't it?) So let's say you have a swarm of bees at Rating 6, with the Sapience power, which makes them a valid target of Essence Drain. You drain up to 3 points of Essence (but no more, as the Rating of the Swarm will drop with the Essence, and you only get one power per 3 points of Rating). Since bees go from eggs to full adults in less than a month, with proper management the swarm ought to replenish itself in time for your next monthly feeding. Voila. Renewable Essence that you can keep in a small greenhouse. Keep two hives for redundancy, or just to stay ahead of the feeding curve. ~Umi That sounds like a magnificent plan that could never in a thousand years go wrong! |
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#122
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 ![]() |
So let's say you have a swarm of bees at Rating 6, with the Sapience power [...] ... and the HMHVV that makes you a vampire mutates, leaps across the species gap, and you end up with a swarm of Africanised vampire bees. They go around, pulling essence out of anything they like (people included), and .... what, make Honey out of it? ;D |
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Tilting at Windmills ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 ![]() |
Oh, this took an interesting turn....
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 ![]() |
QUOTE So let's say you have a swarm of bees at Rating 6, with the Sapience power, which makes them a valid target of Essence Drain. You drain up to 3 points of Essence (but no more, as the Rating of the Swarm will drop with the Essence, and you only get one power per 3 points of Rating). Since bees go from eggs to full adults in less than a month, with proper management the swarm ought to replenish itself in time for your next monthly feeding. Voila. Renewable Essence that you can keep in a small greenhouse. Keep two hives for redundancy, or just to stay ahead of the feeding curve. QUOTE ... and the HMHVV that makes you a vampire mutates, leaps across the species gap, and you end up with a swarm of Africanised vampire bees. They go around, pulling essence out of anything they like (people included), and .... what, make Honey out of it? Why not combine the ideas? The bees and the vampire enter a symbiosis - the vampire grants them all the vampire's powers by way of infection (even Renfield powers would make them terrifying), and they collect essence that feeds the vampire. Here's a character image. |
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#125
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Horror ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 ![]() |
Why not combine the ideas? The bees and the vampire enter a symbiosis - the vampire grants them all the vampire's powers by way of infection (even Renfield powers would make them terrifying), and they collect essence that feeds the vampire. Here's a character image. Never has a better argument for the mass deployment of fuel-air explosives been made. |
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