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post Feb 27 2013, 12:59 AM
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Nope! Unfortunately I'd already decided Eclipse was treating the meeting as an interview for the job rather than the beginning of the job itself, in the same way a Johnson might say "Meet me at the Steakhouse." Hence the lack of gear and walking in the front door... and the "oshit" expression. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE (O'Ryan @ Feb 26 2013, 06:59 PM) *
Nope! Unfortunately I'd already decided Eclipse was treating the meeting as an interview for the job rather than the beginning of the job itself, in the same way a Johnson might say "Meet me at the Steakhouse." Hence the lack of gear and walking in the front door... and the "oshit" expression. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Fair enough. Feel free to post up a Perception roll and any suggestions you have for the team.
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:05 AM
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Absolutely!

Perception Roll - 2 hits (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:14 AM
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QUOTE (Slacker @ Feb 26 2013, 03:47 PM) *
is Needle still trying to get admin access with your second action, or are you doing something different?

I'm continuing. If I stop now, the mission is fragged.
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE (Severus Snape @ Feb 26 2013, 07:14 PM) *
I'm continuing. If I stop now, the mission is fragged.


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edit: Are you sure? You probably know hacking better than I, but I wonder if jacking out now would be better, and cause less alarm (and possibly damage) than staying in...?
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:27 AM
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I'm holding off on an IC post for a little bit to let Needle do some work if she likes.

I try not to be a huge metagamer, but in this case, we clearly have been provided a means of entry (and possibly exit) by our employer. I think that we should use them.
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE (Severus Snape @ Feb 26 2013, 07:14 PM) *
I'm continuing. If I stop now, the mission is fragged.

If that's what you want to do. Then we need to go ahead and roll Initiative for you because that Black IC is going to be coming for you (and yes I did say Black IC which would normally jam your connection open, but I'm willing to let you log out now without penalty if you want to do so).
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:34 AM
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QUOTE (O'Ryan @ Feb 26 2013, 07:05 PM) *

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post Feb 27 2013, 01:39 AM
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How tall was the Yojirushi building? My blind self can't seem to find it! Eclipse has no way of knowing exactly (other than buttons on the elevator), so a comparison to the Horizon building would be fine
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post Feb 27 2013, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE (O'Ryan @ Feb 26 2013, 07:39 PM) *
How tall was the Yojirushi building? My blind self can't seem to find it! Eclipse has no way of knowing exactly (other than buttons on the elevator), so a comparison to the Horizon building would be fine

Yojirushi building is 30 floors, Horizon building is 50 floors with the banquet being on the 28th floor.
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE (Slacker @ Feb 26 2013, 04:01 PM) *
As you start heading to follow Mr. White, you trip over a bag that somehow nobody noticed previously. Looking inside you find ten sets of rappelling gear and gloves, a grapple gun with 200m of micro-wire, and a 500m reel of micro-wire attached to a grapple assembly.

Metagaming: All you are looking at is resisting 4S damage at most on the other end of the zip line. And that is only if you fail a Climbing + Str (2) test to stop yourself.


I'm no expert at this (in RL, or in shadowrun). We've got a sniper on the roof to avoid. It would rule if we could shoot a line from our 30 story rooftop over to the 28th - drop in, grab our mark, and then zip back out to this roof, down and out. There might be some flaws in this plan, but one flaw it does not have, is that it does not involve us fighting our way in or out of that building.

Actually, we don't even have to zip back to this roof, we can just rappel off that balcony down to the ground.
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:26 AM
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Eclipse will certainly mention that in my next post, but triple posting is a bit much for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

I think we're going to have to either neutralize the sniper or ensure no alarm is sounded... and that we're lucky, the sniper is bad, and he doesn't notice us. Otherwise there's nothing stopping him from just shooting straight down as we rappel or zipline away. ...Unless of course there's a distraction of some sort (usually of the pyrotechnic variety!) that distracts everyone long enough for the getaway.

...or, more stealthily, what's stopping us from taking the elevator to the basement level (50 stories has to have one just for support, right?) and getting him out underground?
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:37 AM
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Heck, most big buildings like that have two or three (or more) underground levels. Gotta put wiring, plumbing, heating, storage, and sometimes even parking - somewhere.

Another idea comes up - though I know we're under an IC time crunch. If Mr. White could get into there, and get close to our mark, it might make the grab part easier. 1k nuyen is a pretty penny for a ticket to get in - even if we split up the cost.
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE (O'Ryan @ Feb 26 2013, 08:26 PM) *
Eclipse will certainly mention that in my next post, but triple posting is a bit much for me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

I think we're going to have to either neutralize the sniper or ensure no alarm is sounded... and that we're lucky, the sniper is bad, and he doesn't notice us. Otherwise there's nothing stopping him from just shooting straight down as we rappel or zipline away. ...Unless of course there's a distraction of some sort (usually of the pyrotechnic variety!) that distracts everyone long enough for the getaway.

...or, more stealthily, what's stopping us from taking the elevator to the basement level (50 stories has to have one just for support, right?) and getting him out underground?

Perhaps the security security rigger(s) that can shut down the elevator and just hold all of you in there while they form up a welcome committee for you at the next stop?
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post Feb 27 2013, 02:55 AM
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QUOTE (Slacker @ Feb 26 2013, 06:42 PM) *
Perhaps the security security rigger(s) that can shut down the elevator and just hold all of you in there while they form up a welcome committee for you at the next stop?


I see the disconnect. Oh no sir, this Master Plan ™ I'm brainstorming has nothing so plain as pressing the "B2" button and waiting while listening to bland music. Oh no! You hit "50," pry the doors open, and use your 500' of microwire to merrily rappel to freedom. Since Eclipse has seen Mission Impossible 24 staring Connor Cruise, he knows that all self respecting elevators have laser grids to detect just such. The solution? Stay tuned! (Hint: It involves fireballs and dramatic music.)

...Since the online thing seems to support splitting the party so much better I don't see a problem with sending Mr White in through the bottom to locate, mark, and presumably lure the Target somewhere easier, but 1,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) is a hefty price tag. Would it be possible to con his way in, knowing that he would be on his own if something happened?

Slacker, since this is my first forum thing, how much planning is OK in the OOC thread? Is it just assumed to be the characters are all having the conversation, an ease of play thing, or..?
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (Slacker @ Feb 26 2013, 05:30 PM) *
If that's what you want to do. Then we need to go ahead and roll Initiative for you because that Black IC is going to be coming for you (and yes I did say Black IC which would normally jam your connection open, but I'm willing to let you log out now without penalty if you want to do so).

I'd rather not get into cyber combat with horizon, thanks. But the mission us screwed. An alarm has been triggered and we aren't even in the building. We have no hope of success at this point.

Honestly, I'm not sure what to do at this point. I either risk getting fried to salvage the mission, or I jack out and the mission fails.
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (O'Ryan @ Feb 26 2013, 08:55 PM) *
I see the disconnect. Oh no sir, this Master Plan ™ I'm brainstorming has nothing so plain as pressing the "B2" button and waiting while listening to bland music. Oh no! You hit "50," pry the doors open, and use your 500' of microwire to merrily rappel to freedom. Since Eclipse has seen Mission Impossible 24 staring Connor Cruise, he knows that all self respecting elevators have laser grids to detect just such. The solution? Stay tuned! (Hint: It involves fireballs and dramatic music.)

...Since the online thing seems to support splitting the party so much better I don't see a problem with sending Mr White in through the bottom to locate, mark, and presumably lure the Target somewhere easier, but 1,000 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) is a hefty price tag. Would it be possible to con his way in, knowing that he would be on his own if something happened?

Slacker, since this is my first forum thing, how much planning is OK in the OOC thread? Is it just assumed to be the characters are all having the conversation, an ease of play thing, or..?

In general, planning on forums games goes as long as the conversation is being productive rather than people getting frustrated. In this case, I'm trying to push towards quicker processing of ideas because you are on a strict time table with only having been given 15 minutes until the Johnson expects you to start hitting the building.
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE (Severus Snape @ Feb 26 2013, 09:03 PM) *
I'd rather not get into cyber combat with horizon, thanks. But the mission us screwed. An alarm has been triggered and we aren't even in the building. We have no hope of success at this point.

Honestly, I'm not sure what to do at this point. I either risk getting fried to salvage the mission, or I jack out and the mission fails.

An alert regarding a possible Matrix intruder has been sounded. That doesn't mean the entire building instantly goes on alert. If they did that they'd be going on high alert multiple times every day as random punks were playing around with their new commlinks. The harsh system response here is likely due to an overabundance of such in this area (i did mention earlier that the Yojirushi building in particular was completely covered in multiple layers of AR graffitti).

At this point needle hasn't even touched the system let alone been tracked down. If she's worried about that, she can change her commlinks access ID without too much trouble (this is standard practice among hackers when they think their access ID might have been recorded). It's a Hacking + Software (2) test to temporarily change your access ID (lasts until you next reboot your commlink). Or you can permanently change it with a Hardware + Logic (2) test.
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:23 AM
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Well. I can summon up a spirit to give us some concealment. People would take less notice of us, so we might be able to get in and out without as much trouble.

Sorry. I'm not near my computer, using my phone to check and post...
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:38 AM
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QUOTE (Severus Snape @ Feb 26 2013, 09:03 PM) *
I'd rather not get into cyber combat with horizon, thanks. But the mission us screwed. An alarm has been triggered and we aren't even in the building. We have no hope of success at this point.

Honestly, I'm not sure what to do at this point. I either risk getting fried to salvage the mission, or I jack out and the mission fails.



I'll be super meta, and Slacker, correct me if I'm wrong here. I think that if you jack out now, that their matrix security people smile smugly, knowing that they chased some passer-by hack away. Our plan continues.

oops - I sat on that too long before hitting send. Scooped!
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:42 AM
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QUOTE (Slacker @ Feb 26 2013, 07:18 PM) *
An alert regarding a possible Matrix intruder has been sounded. That doesn't mean the entire building instantly goes on alert. If they did that they'd be going on high alert multiple times every day as random punks were playing around with their new commlinks. The harsh system response here is likely due to an overabundance of such in this area (i did mention earlier that the Yojirushi building in particular was completely covered in multiple layers of AR graffitti).

At this point needle hasn't even touched the system let alone been tracked down. If she's worried about that, she can change her commlinks access ID without too much trouble (this is standard practice among hackers when they think their access ID might have been recorded). It's a Hacking + Software (2) test to temporarily change your access ID (lasts until you next reboot your commlink). Or you can permanently change it with a Hardware + Logic (2) test.


Sorry, but I've played with far too many GM's who like to screw players over on the first dice roll. Was just covering my bases.

However, my character IS at an impasse here. She's set off a matrix alert, and she isn't about to get fried here. So she will log out. No big deal, but she's kind of useless now. She's got no armor and no weapon on her. I guess she can head over with Mr. White, but when the guards refuse to let everyone enter...she's kind of useless. Or is she...

Was the sniper in signal range when I checked for PANs earlier? Probably, considering my signal is 6. So I'm viewing the matrix through AR and checking for a hidden node on his person. I'm going to assume that, at the very least, he has at least a commlink OR cyberware. This is a specific check - Electronic Warfare + Scan, with a threshold of 4. If I can't force the doors, I can at least make sure the sniper isn't a problem.

15d6.hits(5) = 9

She's doing this via AR. I'll let you tell me if there is a node there or not before I continue.
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:49 AM
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I hemmed and hawed over it. I'm sending White in. I think that having him inside when the party is crashed will be valuable. He can help make sure the target does not disappear. He may not rappel out - he needs to not have him or his contact look suspicious on investigation. But we'll see how that goes down.

Needles, she could camp out just outside of the building in anticipation of our people coming back out. Trust me, I understand the frustration about being useless outside of specific circumstances. If we're not talking, White may as well be hiding under something.

Thoughts, folks?
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post Feb 27 2013, 03:56 AM
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I got no problem with you being inside when the party gets crashed.

Needle is going to see about taking out the sniper - or at least disabling him to the point where he is either firing blind or his weapon won't work. After that...we'll have to wait and see what types of tricks Horizon tries to pull. Might be able to help do the same thing with anybody else that gets in signal range to help out.

How's that sound?

And yeah, it's frustrating when the GM rolls 7 hits on his first roll, thereby almost eliminating one player before anything starts. She's got a secondary skillset, but I'm really hoping nobody gets hurt so much that she has to use it. But I'll do what I can in the matrix from here, even if I can't get into Horizon. Yet.
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QUOTE (Severus Snape @ Feb 26 2013, 09:42 PM) *
Sorry, but I've played with far too many GM's who like to screw players over on the first dice roll. Was just covering my bases.

However, my character IS at an impasse here. She's set off a matrix alert, and she isn't about to get fried here. So she will log out. No big deal, but she's kind of useless now. She's got no armor and no weapon on her. I guess she can head over with Mr. White, but when the guards refuse to let everyone enter...she's kind of useless. Or is she...

Was the sniper in signal range when I checked for PANs earlier? Probably, considering my signal is 6. So I'm viewing the matrix through AR and checking for a hidden node on his person. I'm going to assume that, at the very least, he has at least a commlink OR cyberware. This is a specific check - Electronic Warfare + Scan, with a threshold of 4. If I can't force the doors, I can at least make sure the sniper isn't a problem.

15d6.hits(5) = 9

She's doing this via AR. I'll let you tell me if there is a node there or not before I continue.

It's stretching the limit of the signal rating on his commlink between your current position and his. As you're looking at the signal it disappears out of range, but you are confident that if he moves to a position along the building's edge that looks over the balcony that he will be within range for you to do nasty things to hims commlink.
Also, there were in fact two nodes on the balcony, the other one being by the bar. Given the speed of the virtual world, the 10 minutes+ you all have left before go time is an eternity. Metagaming you targetted the more difficult of the two nodes and while any security rigger would certainly take a look where an alert was triggered. Finding no evidence of intrusion, he will order the IC back to its natural state, andthen move on to check over the rest of the building's security to make sure this wasn't a distraction rather the attempt vandalizism he deals with on a regular basis.
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QUOTE (Severus Snape @ Feb 26 2013, 09:56 PM) *
I got no problem with you being inside when the party gets crashed.

Needle is going to see about taking out the sniper - or at least disabling him to the point where he is either firing blind or his weapon won't work. After that...we'll have to wait and see what types of tricks Horizon tries to pull. Might be able to help do the same thing with anybody else that gets in signal range to help out.

How's that sound?

And yeah, it's frustrating when the GM rolls 7 hits on his first roll, thereby almost eliminating one player before anything starts. She's got a secondary skillset, but I'm really hoping nobody gets hurt so much that she has to use it. But I'll do what I can in the matrix from here, even if I can't get into Horizon. Yet.

I'm sorry if it comes off as being heavy handed. I promise you i'm not trying to be, but even if I only bought successes with that nodes dice, it would have detected you on your second attempt which still would not have given you the admin access you were trying for (target was 14).

Besides, i'll let you in on something, this whole mission is going to take more than the 2 minutes of zip lining across, grabbing the guy and rappelling/zip lining/however away. You are going to have more opportunities to be useful.

Trying to hack a megacorps system is damn hard and the stats reflect that.
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