 Boots faster than anything else, UEFI / GOP / Ultra-Fast Boot from SSD to Windumb 8 |
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 Apr 16 2013, 01:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818  |
QUOTE (nezumi @ Apr 16 2013, 08:23 AM)  The metro UI takes one extra click (click "DESKTOP" or "CHROME" or whatever I'm jumping to). Really, though, what your computer boots to, should be a user-controllable setting. |
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Apr 16 2013, 02:09 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Actually, i picked up rumors about a possibility of booting directly to desktop under windumb 8, because a bit of code has been found in an .dll file of windumb 8.1(windows blue) it seems.
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Apr 16 2013, 05:55 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Apr 16 2013, 08:50 AM) Really, though, what your computer boots to, should be a user-controllable setting. Yes, it's called Linux ;P |
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Apr 16 2013, 09:20 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 16 2013, 11:24 AM) Hmm, strange and ever stranger . . What is your time to the windows boot screen (the hardware boot) and time to desktop/login screen (system boot)? The first part does not really benefit from SSD speed, even if my HDDs need a moment to spin up if I use them, this should be a few seconds at most. I had trouble with the RAID configuration of my fathers PC a few years back, those caused a ton of waiting time until I disabled "Auto" settings as far as possible. Your motherboard seems to have a ton of features, too. Have you turned everything unused off? |
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Apr 16 2013, 09:38 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
yeah, i have, but i can't turn off the raid, because my old system is still on a raid0 of 2xVelociraptors . .
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Apr 16 2013, 09:51 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
Go SSD for your system. It´s worth the effort. I actually had the SSD lying around for half a year before installing it, and would have done so early if I had known the difference.
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Apr 16 2013, 09:53 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
My Win7 Main System is on a Samsung Series 830 256 GB SSD.
My Vista Old System is on a Raid0 of 2x74GB WD Velociraptor 10k rpm |
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Apr 17 2013, 06:28 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
What are you keeping the Vista around for? To many installations to loose?
Is it the hardware boot that is taking the time? |
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Apr 17 2013, 07:43 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
My overall boot time is about 15-20s.
The time spent on BIOS is 11-16s. The time spent booting Win7 once BIOS has POSTed is 4s. |
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Apr 17 2013, 08:02 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
yep, too much stuff i'd lose with the Raid0.
And yes, it's taking pretty long to get into the windows boot image screen. and that takes quite long till the password prompt appears too <.< |
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Apr 17 2013, 10:10 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
If you don't like the Metro UI, just hit Win + D and get to desktop..?
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Apr 18 2013, 02:32 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
It's not just that I dislike Metro, Bigity. It's that I dislike having to boot INTO Metro. I want to be able to boot straight to my desktop ... like Win7 already allows me to do.
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Apr 18 2013, 09:30 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
as i mentioned before, there are rumors floating about in the IT crowd thatWin 8.1 will allow booting into desktop and maybe even bring back the start button/menue . .
if that is the case, then yes, i will consider it a valid option for a new OS . . |
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Apr 18 2013, 12:49 PM
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jacked in Group: Admin Posts: 9,334 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
With Windows Blue everything will be good again!
Windows Blue is to Windows 8 what Windows 7 was to Windows Vista. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Bye Thanee |
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Apr 18 2013, 01:46 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
if they can repeat that, then it will be a good OS to use.
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Apr 18 2013, 03:07 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
And, they will be perpetuating the cycle: "Do not early-adopt even-numbered iterations of Windows. Wait for the second Service Pack, and/or, wait for an odd-numbered iteration."
Win95: okay WinME: not so good WinXP: okay Vista: not so good Win7: okay Win8: not so good WinBlue: ...? |
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Apr 18 2013, 04:40 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I'd probably include 95 as the 'not so good' and 98 as the 'okay'. But yeah, my understanding is that (excepting XP), most of those are the first version (which is terrible) followed by the revision. 98 is 95 updated, 7 is Vista updated, etc. XP is the odd man out, but only because it was based on Windows NT, which wasn't made for consumer PCs.
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Apr 18 2013, 05:40 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
I think the pattern is one where:
For one generation, Revolution - MS introduces amazing new features and abilities .... which don't always work out so well in the real world, as they did in their staffmeetings. For the next generation, Refinement - MS refines, polishes, and generally improves upon what already exists ... fixing what can be fixed, leaving alone what works fine, and dumping the rest. Lather, rinse, repeat. See, for example IMO Vista was just fine .... after Service Pack 2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 18 2013, 07:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 745 Joined: 13-April 07 From: Houston, Texas Member No.: 11,448 |
QUOTE (_Pax._ @ Apr 18 2013, 12:40 PM) I think the pattern is one where: For one generation, Revolution - MS introduces amazing new features and abilities .... which don't always work out so well in the real world, as they did in their staffmeetings. For the next generation, Refinement - MS refines, polishes, and generally improves upon what already exists ... fixing what can be fixed, leaving alone what works fine, and dumping the rest. Lather, rinse, repeat. See, for example IMO Vista was just fine .... after Service Pack 2. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I agree with this assessment. |
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Apr 18 2013, 08:11 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
I gotta say that I'm not seeing many valid reasons for classifying Win8 as 'not so good' other than a dislike to hitting an extra couple of keys.
But hey, I know alot of people like the Win7 interface more than 8. |
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Apr 18 2013, 08:40 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,492 Joined: 19-April 12 Member No.: 51,818 |
Bigity .... I can't give you more reasons, because I haven't used it.
When it came time to build this PC, I knew two things. One, I had seen Win7 in action, and it clearly would do everything I ever needed. Two, I dislike the Metro interface intensely, but Win8 insists on presenting me with it at every boot-and-login. So. I had reason to avoid Win8, but no reason to avoid Win7. Guess which one I went with? |
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Apr 18 2013, 08:45 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
And that's fine, but I'm saying I'm not sure that quantifies it as 'not so good' outside of your opinion. Just bantering around here some.
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Apr 18 2013, 09:29 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
*Looks at old case* "Let's see how fast I can get this to boot." *Kicks it off a bridge* "Acceleration of gravity, apparently."
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Apr 18 2013, 11:13 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Apr 18 2013, 11:29 PM) *Looks at old case* "Let's see how fast I can get this to boot." *Kicks it off a bridge* "Acceleration of gravity, apparently." Mr.Clarkson, is that you? |
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Apr 19 2013, 12:06 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Apr 18 2013, 06:13 PM) Mr.Clarkson, is that you? Nah, I had a character I used for Role Playing sessions in tech support training called "The Gunny".He was told to boot his system. "I HAVE BOOTED THE SYSTEM AND IT IS NOW ON THE FLOOR!" The person I did that to later thanked me as he came close to having the same issue when working numerous times. |
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