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May 20 2013, 09:54 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
Hey guys, so I'm equipping a character to use primarily silent/strength based weapons and I'm trying to find the best thing to use at range.
Thus far, the best I've got is a thrown Cougar Fineblade. DV=(Str/2+1)P -1AP. Will that work or is something else better? Can you turn anything into a throwing weapon by simply throwing it or is there a specific list of throwing weapons? Is there a preferred throwing weapon or is (Str/2+1) -1AP pretty much the best you're going to get? |
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May 20 2013, 10:14 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
I actually perfer Shuriken (I play an Oni Ninja), but that is a style choice, more than anything. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
With the Adept Ability Missile Mastery, anything can become a potentially lethal thrown weapon. My favorite to date was the little umbrella that comes in a mixed drink. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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May 20 2013, 10:23 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Grenades.
Make a Stick and Shock Grenade for example. Or make a Smoke/Gas-Grenade sticky. Throw it as a thrown weapon. Then set it off remotely, when it sticks to a Target after having done the Thrown Weapon Damage already. For Slapstick Fun, use Slip-Spray grenades for this. These are all reasonably silent. There is no such thing as a one hit KO with this stuff. Otherwise Drug coated Weapons of course. |
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May 20 2013, 10:32 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
Missile Mastery along with Power Throw will be your friends. As for specific things I was always fond of marbles. Perfectly legal plus you can dump the bag to make a getaway in addition to throwing them.
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May 20 2013, 10:45 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
What about straight up mundanes?
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May 20 2013, 10:47 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
There's a Reason why Guns are called "The Great Equalizer"
Otherwise, see my last post. If you want to do silly stuff, do silly effective stuff by being creative. |
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May 20 2013, 10:52 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
Let's say you'd like to take advantage of that 15 strength...
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May 20 2013, 10:55 PM
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Bow and Arrow are your Friends.
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May 20 2013, 10:58 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
What about 1-handers?
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May 20 2013, 11:28 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,652 Joined: 22-April 12 From: somewhere far beyond sanity Member No.: 51,886 |
All of these things that are not designed to be thrown suffer penalties for being improvised throwing weapons (Arsenal, p. 19).
That means, the range categories are shorter than for grenades, shuriken or dedicated throwing knives, and the GM could apply negative modifiers. Throwing a cougar fine blade will only net you a lower damage value than attacking with one, so it's really not that good. A thrown sword has the same range as a throwing knife, with only marginally better damage. The table is on p. 20, Arsenal. For the pure mundane thrower, grenades are the best bang (literally) for the buck. |
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May 20 2013, 11:33 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Metahuman body wearing a bomb vest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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May 20 2013, 11:51 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
A sheep.
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May 21 2013, 12:02 AM
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jacked in ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 9,713 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 463 |
Let's say you'd like to take advantage of that 15 strength... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgF_7J_RfI Oh, just 15... sorry, that won't cut it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Bye Thanee P.S. Javelin is STR/2+2P 0AP |
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May 21 2013, 12:37 AM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I was going to recommend throwing the dwarf, but CanRay beat me to it. Damn you, Canray!
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May 21 2013, 03:11 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
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May 21 2013, 07:37 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 30-March 13 From: Calgary, AMC Member No.: 85,966 |
If you're going with the descriptions of "Improved Thrown Weapons" in Arsenal and using strictly one-handed weapons, a monofilament sword would probably end up as (STR/2) +1P. (The pattern seems to be that the thrown version of the weapon is -1 DV from the handheld version.) A javelin is (STR/2) +2P.
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May 21 2013, 08:00 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 8-January 10 Member No.: 18,018 |
Best thrown weapon is the Tomahawk with its mix of good damage and shuriken range.
Personally, I prefer Jelly Beans or Gummibears as thrown weapons. Ammo is plentiful and available at your nearest stuffer shack. |
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May 21 2013, 03:21 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
Could you theoretically mod a tomahawk with Cougar Fineblade material to add a -1AP?
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May 21 2013, 05:35 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Could you theoretically mod a tomahawk with Cougar Fineblade material to add a -1AP? Dikote? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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May 21 2013, 05:50 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
Could you theoretically mod a tomahawk with Cougar Fineblade material to add a -1AP? Wouldn't that make it a Cougar FineBlade? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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May 21 2013, 05:56 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
...with 1 reach and an additional damage...yes...but it's not by the book.
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May 21 2013, 06:25 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
Dikote? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Dikote and a crate full of throwing knives! |
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May 22 2013, 08:39 PM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,536 Joined: 13-July 09 Member No.: 17,389 |
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May 22 2013, 11:26 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
You could climb Mt Everest, run the length of Japan, or swim across the English Channel. Climb Volcano Rainier and throw molten rocks from the top at your enemies! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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May 24 2013, 04:18 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 221 Joined: 31-December 10 From: Tacoma, Washington Member No.: 19,262 |
Information on Dikote is available in the 2050 book.
1,000 nuyen per dose which will cover 100 square centimeters. It only grants +1 DV to the weapon, if it is edged it also gets -1 AP. Essentially it covers the surface with a coating of diamond. |
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