20 minute character challenge, Will you make a runner or a target? Options

[thorya]

So based on discussion in one of the 5th edition threads, I got curious to see if I could make a runner in 20 minutes. Not the most optimized, ridiculous dice pool normal character you see on DS, just someone that was somewhat competent at what they do. It was interesting. Let's see what other people can make.

Here are the rules:
1. BP system following all the normal character creation rules available.
2. Standard 400 Point build.
3. You may use a program, such as a spreadsheet or chummer to assist you, but you have to start from scratch and not load any existing characters you may have or use them as cheat sheets.
4. You stop at 20 minutes and post whatever you've got. If you didn't get around to finishing something, then the character doesn't have it. If you have left over BP you lose it. ex. I forgot about contacts until the end and didn't have enough time to pull points out of other things before the limit, so Mr. Schmidt doesn't have any. Not the way I would normally run a character, but that's the game.
5. Every book is allowed.
6. You also need to buy gear and knowledge skills.
7. Post your character here, maybe highlight some highs and lows of the character.
8. We'll trust everyone to be honest about the time they took and whether they broke any rules or if something would be acceptable at their table, please no debates about whether something is allowed or not.

First Character- Mr. Schimdt, Dwarf Mage

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Metatype- Dwarf
BOD- 5
AGI- 3
REA- 3
STR- 3
CHA- 2
INT- 3
LOG- 5
WIL- 5

EDG- 2
MAG- 5

Qualities-
Positive
Magician (Hermetic)

Negative
Addiction (Mild) (Betel)
Codeblock
Poor Self Control (Braggart)
Scorched
Sensitive System

Active Skills
Assensing- 2 (Spec. Astral Signatures)
Binding- 2 (Spec. Air Spirits)
Chemistry- 1 (Spec. Drugs)
Con- 1
Counterspelling- 4
Demolitions- 1
Etiquette- 2 (Spec. Magic Communities)
First Aid- 1 (spec. Combat wounds)
Medicine- 1
Negotiate- 1
Perception- 2 (Spec. Visual)
Pistols- 1 (Spec. Semi-Auto)
Spellcasting- 5 (Spell Manipulation)
Summoning- 5 (Spec. Air spirits)

Knowledge Skills-
Area Knowledge: Seattle 2 (spec. Redmond)
Magical Theory- 4 (spec. Conjuring)
Magical Threats- 1
Magical Tradiations- 2 (spec. Mages)
Alcohol- 2
News- 3
German- 3
Japanese- 3
Firearms- 1

Spells-
Stunball
Heal
Increase Reflexes
Improved Invisiblity
Control Actions

Gear-
Armor Jacket- Mods- Non-Conductivity, Gel Packs, Ruthenium Polymer Coated, Secure Tech Forearm Guards, Vitals Protector, Leg and Arm Casings
Ares Predator IV- Smartgun System, Silencer, Concealable Holster (50 reg ammo, 30 APDS) (forgot SnS, doh!)
Survival Knife
Hermes Ikon (apparently without an operating system or programs)
Drugs- 10 Betel, Jazz, Zen, Psyche, Tempo
Goggles Rating 6- (with nothing in them, I keep finding little things I didn't finish)
Lifestyle Middle one Month

Bonded Foci-
Sustaining Focus Force 3 (Health)
Power Focus Force 2

Contacts-
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

Normally I would want to tweak him more, and I missed a lot of details, but overall, I think he's pretty playable. DP 12 for his primary skills (Spellcasting and Summoning). Decent drain pool, but not amazing. 6 for pistols if he gets in a fight (8 once he buys an image link). Enough knowledge skills that he's not too flat and mechanical. Most of his gear makes some sense. Finding gear was the hardest part, even using chummer, wish I remembered it had a search function. Wasted a good minute trying to find where goggles were and then forgot the image link.

[Draco18s]

I'll see what I can pull off later today or tomorrow.

I think I built a drake mage in "about" 20 minutes way back in the day. Wasn't a character that was intended for play and was heavily based on a prior character (that is, a lot of the optimizations I'd worked out to make a viable drake character were re-utilized).

[bannockburn]

Ork Samurai, rather complete, I'd say.
I could have used more time for fine tuning, but he's plenty playable.
Is he finished? No. No background, no nothing.

But he can take a punch and dish out some damage too, in most situations. I even cheesed a bit with the used alphaware, but he's nowhere near being optimized to hell and back.

Things I would have done better with more time:
- Squeeze some more points and add a martial art
- A secondary automatic weapon
- some mods on the bike

Start: 15:15h
Stop: 15:35h

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Name:
Mr Fancy, because he's nothing fancy.

Metatype:
Ork

Qualities (-10BP):
Implant-induced Immune Deficiency

Lifestyle:
Low


Attributes (210 BP):
BOD: 8 (10 for DR)
AGI: 5 (7)
REA: 5 (6)
STR: 5
CHA: 2
INT: 3
LOG: 2
WIL: 3

INI: 8 (9)
IP: 2
ESS: 1,57
EDG: 2

Condition Monitors:
Stun: 10
Physical: 12


Contacts (4 BP):
Fixer (Rating 3, Loyalty 1)


Skill Groups (70 BP):
Athletics Group: 4
Climbing: Pool 9
Gymnastics: Pool 11 (10 for Gymnastics Dodge)
Running: Pool 9
Swimming: Pool 9
Close Combat Group: 3, Pool 10 (9 for Parry / Block)


Active Skills (78 BP):
Armorer: 1, Pool 3
Automatics (Assault Rifles): 5 (+2), Pool 12 (14)
Computer: 1, Pool 3
Etiquette: 1, Pool 3
Infiltration: 3, Pool 10
Perception: 3, Pool 6
Pistols: 5, Pool 12


Knowledge Skills & Languages (15 free points):
English: N
Japanese: 2, Pool 5

Area Knowledge: Seattle: 4, Pool 7
Bars & Clubs: 2, Pool 5
Gangs: 3, Pool 6
Shadow Community: 4, Pool 7


Cyberware: 4,13
Bone Lacing (Ceramic), used Alphaware 1,15
Datajack 0,10
Dermal Sheath Rating 2, used Alphaware 0,96
Wired Reflexes Rating 1, used Alphaware 1,92


Bioware: 0,30 (halved)
Muscle Toner Rating 2 0,4
Platelet Factories 0,2


Armor Total: 19 / 19
FFBA Full +6 / +2
Nonconductivity 6
Insulation 3

Camouflage Suit 8 / 6
YNT Softweave
Color Changing
Chemical Protection 6
Fire Resistance 4

Helmet +1 / +2

Secure Tech PPP Ensemble +2 / +4

Dermal Sheath +2 / +3

Bone Lacing: 0 / +2


Weapons & Ammo:
Unarmed: 5P

Ares Predator IV, 60 rounds regular ammunition, 4 spare clips
Quickdraw Holster

Ares Alpha, 210 rounds regular ammunition, 5 spare clips, 6 HE minigrenades, 6 thermal smoke minigrenades, 6 frag minigrenades, 6 flash-bangs, 4 spare clips
Personalized Grip
Gas Vent 3
Sling


Gear (28 BP for 140k Nuyen):
Contact Lenses Rating 3
Smartlink
Image Link
Vision Magnification

Glasses Rating 4
Flare Compensation
Thermographic
Vision Enhancement 3

Earbuds Rating 3
Audio Enhancement 3
Spatial Recognizer

Climbing Gear
Gecko Tape Gloves
Rappelling Gloves
Stealth Rope (100m)
Catalyst Stick

Fake SIN Rating 4
Fake License Rating 4: Concealed Carry

Hermes Ikon
Sim Module (Hot)
Novatech Navi OS
Firewall 6
Suite: Pro User (Analyze 4, Browse 4, Command 4, Edit 4)


Vehicles:
BMW Blitzen 2050, unmodded

[bannockburn]

Addendum: I had 2195 Nuyen left for some goodies and used Chummer for generating him.
1200 Nuyen starting money after rolling for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Of course, a street samurai is about the easiest character concept you can slap together.

[Draco18s]

Ork Samurai, rather complete, I'd say.

Your original, unedited, post was more amusing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Ork samurai, no stats, no gear, just a willpower (3), reaction (8 ), and IPs (2). Hehe. Oh, and his one quality.

[bannockburn]

Typing it up actually took a lot longer than creating it. I hate the C&P dump that chummer creates (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[thorya]

Typing it up actually took a lot longer than creating it. I hate the C&P dump that chummer creates (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Me too!

I'm impressed how you got all the equipment done.

I think that you probably play sam's regularly if you think they're easy to throw together. I usually do mages, so I thought it would be the easiest to throw together. Otherwise I would have had to look up 'ware because I only know about 1/4 of it off the top of my head. I'll be amazed if someone can do a rigger with a full load-out of modded drones. Not going to try myself, don't know them well enough.

[bannockburn]

I actually only have 3 characters. 2 of them were converted from SR3 (adept and bioware infiltrator / thief) and the third one was created in karma with a few common house rules and is at best remotely related to a samurai, even if her name is Sam (story and stats found in signature link) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I have a lot of practice in Chummer though, since I usually create my NPCs in there. All kinds, not only sams.
Without background information to consider and getting it 'just right' it's rather easy just to click something playable together, but my usual process in creating a character involves a lot of getting it to fit the picture in my head.
Those are usually created in a more liberal system (such as the aforementioned karma generated character) and result in slightly better than standard BP stats. If someone were to use that system to minmax, horribleness would probably result (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Seerow]

Are we also including backstory/descriptions, or just pure crunch?


I don't think I could make a full character, but if it's just the mechanical aspects I'd bet I could do it in 15. I'll probably take a shot at it once I'm caught up on my work.

[thorya]

I usually can't do description/backstory, until I've got a group to play with and know how the character needs to fit in. So I just did crunch, and the original debate was whether you could make a character under various build systems and I assume that backstory will be about the same time regardless of the various systems, but there's nothing stopping people from doing backstory as well. I don't type fast enough to write a backstory in the time with any sort of depth, I could barely even get a crunch character done in 20.

[Sunshine]

Challange accepted!

This is what I came up with in 20 Minutes:

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Street Name: Sync
Name: Unnamed Character
Movement: 10/25, Swim: 5
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0
Human
Composure: 6
Judge Intentions: 7
Lift/Carry: 6 (45 kg/30 kg)
Memory: 6
Nuyen: 0

== Attributes ==
BOD: 3
AGI: 5
REA: 4 (5)
STR: 3
CHA: 3
INT: 4
LOG: 3
WIL: 3
EDG: 4

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence: 4,25
Initiative: 8 (9)
IP: 1 (2)
Matrix Initiative: 7
Matrix IP: 1
Physical Damage Track: 10
Stun Damage Track: 10

== Active Skills ==
Climbing : 2 Pool: 8
Computer : 1 Pool: 4
Data Search : 1 Pool: 4
Disguise : 4 Pool: 8
Escape Artist : 1 Pool: 7
Etiquette : 1 [Corporate] Pool: 4 (6)
Flight : 2 Pool: 8
Gymnastics : 2 Pool: 10
Hardware : 1 Pool: 4
Infiltration : 4 Pool: 10
Negotiation : 1 [Bargaining] Pool: 4 (6)
Palming : 4 Pool: 10
Perception : 3 Pool: 10
Pistols : 3 [Semi-Automatics] Pool: 8 (10)
Running : 2 Pool: 8
Shadowing : 4 Pool: 8
Software : 1 Pool: 4
Swimming : 2 Pool: 8
Unarmed Combat : 2 Pool: 7

== Knowledge Skills ==
Area Knowledge: Seattle : 4 Pool: 8
Art : 4 Pool: 7
Engineering : 4 Pool: 7
English : N Pool: 0
French : 2 Pool: 6
Japanese : 2 Pool: 6

== Contacts ==
Fixer (1, 1)
Mr. Johnson (1, 1)

== Qualities ==
Addiction (Mild) (BTL)
Ambidextrous
Blandness
Erased (1 Week)
SINner (Standard) (Thomas Burke)

== Lifestyles ==
Low 2 months
Middle 2 months

== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Attention Coprocessor Rating 3
Cyberears Rating 2
+Ear Recording Unit
+Sound Link
+Balance Augmenter
+Damper
+Select Sound Filter Rating 3
Cybereyes Basic System Rating 3
+Eye Recording Unit
+Image Link
+Eye Light System
+Low-Light Vision
+Flare Compensation
+Smartlink
+Vision Magnification
+Thermographic Vision
Datajack
Enhanced Articulation
Math SPU
Synaptic Booster Rating 1
Synthacardium Rating 2

== Armor ==
Chameleon Suit 6/4

== Weapons ==
Unarmed Attack
Pool: 7 DV: 2S AP: - RC: 0
Walther Secura w/ Smartlink
+Concealable Holster
+Silencer
+Spare Clips
+Smartgun System
Pool: 10 (12) DV: 5P AP: -1 RC: 0

== Martial Arts ==
Krav Maga
+Ready Weapon as Free Action
Evasion

== Commlink ==
Novatech Airware (3, 0, 0, 3)

== Gear ==
Ammo: EX-Explosive Rounds (Heavy Pistols) x50
Climbing Gear
Fake SIN (Sean Taggert) Rating 4
Gecko Tape Gloves
Iris Orb

2 Minutes for a Concept of an Bioware Infiltrator/ Former Company Man. The rest I had to hurry through therefor no real optimization.

The "hard" part was to get the gear right the first time and had I not used chummer, I would have had to flip through books to check essence cost or prices of gear. So with just a pencil and the book I think the sheer quantity of things you need stats for like Gear, Cyberware (Essence), Vehicles, Commlinks, etc. 20 Minutes is not easy. For a Magic Character I think I would have even needed more time as I would have wanted to weigh the pros and cons of spells, traditons, mentors (if any), etc.
I also found myself to be reserved about negative qualites as I knew to little about the character yet to make a good choice.

btw I dont know how to put a spoiler tag in bbcode, hence the post length

[bannockburn]

The tag is

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[Sunshine]

thank you & edited

[betterwatchit]

Just had a go at this using Hero Lab, and here's what came out:

Journeyman (Human Adept)
B 3, A 2/5, R 3, S 3, C 4, I 4, L 5, W 4, E 2, Ess 6, M 5, Init 7, IP 1
Condition Monitor boxes (Physical/Stun): 10/10
Novatech Airwave Commlink Condition Monitor: 10
Armor (Ballistic/Impact): 9/9
Skills: Armorer 4, Athletics Group 4, Influence Group 4, Perception 5, Pistols 6, Unarmed Combat 6
Knowledge Skills: English N, Gang Turfs 4 (Seattle +2), Japanese 5, Runner Bars & Clubs 4 (Seattle +2), Seattle Armourers 4, Seattle Shadow Clinics 4 (Awakened-Friendly +2), Trid Shows 3
Qualities: Adept, Allergy, Common (Moderate): Soy, Analytical Mind, Hawk Eye, High Pain Tolerance (2), Nano Intolerance, Perceptive (1), Sensitive System
Adept Powers: Improved Ability (2): Pistols, Improved Ability (2): Unarmed Combat, Improved Sense: Audio Enhancement 3, Improved Sense: Flare Compensation, Improved Sense: Low-Light Vision, Improved Sense: Sound Dampening, Improved Sense: Vision Enhancement 3, Iron Will (+1 dicepool) (1), Mind Over Matter (Log -> Agi): Logic
Gear:
. . Glasses (4) with Camera (1), Image Link, Smartlink, Vision Magnification, Electronic
. . Greatcoat with Chemical Protection, Insulation
. . Rating 4 Fake SIN with Fake License: Predator (Rating 4), Fake License: Smartlink Glasses (Rating 4)
. . Novatech Airwave Commlink with Iris Orb Operating System
. . SecureTech Shin Guards
Weapons:
. . Ares Predator CW [Pistols, DV 6P vs. B-2, SA, RC 1, 15 ©] with Electronic Firing, EX-Explosive Rounds x30, Extreme Environment Modification 1: Cold Weather, Gecko Grip, Improved Range Finder, Personalized Grip, Silencer, Smartgun System, Internal, Spare Clips
. . Attack of Will (vs. Spirits) [DV 4P vs. I]
. . Hardliner Gloves [Unarmed, DV 3P vs. I]
. . Unarmed Strike [Unarmed, DV 2S vs. I]

I swear, the CW weapons are a modder's dream! They have two relevant mods for shadowrunners built into them without taking up any slots! An Extreme Environment mod is just a bonus!

[Seerow]

Okay here's what I came up with. I was aiming for 15 minutes, wound up going to 18, but I wasted a couple of minutes fixing settings in chummer that were modified for house rules (ie I couldn't figure out why I had so much bp left with so many skills... then remembered I had half cost skills on. Then also ran into the problem of having money at 1.5k instead of 5k per rating, which was giving me trouble)

To make it go quick I dumped a lot into attributes and skills to save time on buying out gear. If I was going more in depth I may have done otherwise, but I'm pretty sure I hit all my bases and made a playable character. Obviously archetype is a mundane combat guy.

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Metatype: Human (0 pts)
Qualities (-30pts net): Restricted Gear, In Debt (30,000), Bad Rep
Attributes (200pts): B: 4 A: 5(9) R: 5(7) S: 3 C: 3 I: 3 L: 2 W: 3
Edge: 5 (30pts)
Resources: 105,000 (15pts, includes 30,000 from in debt)

Contacts (15 pts):
Connection 3/Loyalty 2 Fixer
Connection 2/Loyalty 2 Arms dealer
Connection 1/Loyalty 5 Generic buddy/guy willing to do a favor no questions asked

Skills (170 pts)
Athletics Group 2
Influence Group 1
Stealth Group 4
Automatics(SMGs) 5(7)
Clubs 3
Computer 2
Data Search 2
First Aid 1
Intimidation 2
Longarms(Shotguns) 2(4)
Perception (Visual) 3(5)
Pilot (Groundcraft) 3(5)

Cyberware (2.5 essence remaining):
Datajack
Wired Reflexes 2
Muscle Toner 4

Lifestyle:
Low (3 months)

Gear:
Form Fitting Half-Suit, Lined Coat, Secure Tech Arm/Forearm Casings, Leg Casings, Shin Guards. (total armor: 10/9)
FNP93 Praetor w/Electronic Firing (Gas Vent 3 and Smartgun system added) + concealable holster. 100rds ex-explosive
Franchi SPAS-22. 100 rounds.
Ares Crusader (Smartgun System added) +concealable holster. 50 gel rounds
Stun Staff (6S(e))
Sledge Hammer (5P)
Novatech Airwave, Iris Orb OS, Pro User Suite.
Subvocal Microphone
Earbuds (Rating 3. Rating 3 Audio Enhancement included)
Glasses (Rating 3. Rating 3 vision enhancement, image link, and smart link included)
AR Gloves
Fake Sin (Rating 4)

Vehicle: Mercury Comet

Edit: Just realized I didn't include the knowledge skills in my write-up, but they were in the character builder. It was real simple, speaks english, Seattle at 6, Underworld at 4, Gangs at 3, Bars and Clubs took up whatever was left (I think it was 2, but I've closed the program so I'm posting from memory)

[toturi]

Here are the rules:
1. BP system following all the normal character creation rules available.
2. Standard 400 Point build.
3. You may use a program, such as a spreadsheet or chummer to assist you, but you have to start from scratch and not load any existing characters you may have or use them as cheat sheets.
4. You stop at 20 minutes and post whatever you've got. If you didn't get around to finishing something, then the character doesn't have it. If you have left over BP you lose it. ex. I forgot about contacts until the end and didn't have enough time to pull points out of other things before the limit, so Mr. Schmidt doesn't have any. Not the way I would normally run a character, but that's the game.
5. Every book is allowed.
6. You also need to buy gear and knowledge skills.
7. Post your character here, maybe highlight some highs and lows of the character.
8. We'll trust everyone to be honest about the time they took and whether they broke any rules or if something would be acceptable at their table, please no debates about whether something is allowed or not.

3. Can you more than 1 program? I find chummer's gear system easier to navigate but the spreadsheet's system easier more most other things.
5. Assume that e-books/e-publications are allowed. Can I use characters published within those books as cheats?

If you have the character already pre-gen-ed in your head, meaning if I did everything in my head, then I sat down and put it down on paper, does it count? If I dreamt the character up at night, and in the morning, woke up and wrote it all down, does it still count?

[Neurosis]

So based on discussion in one of the 5th edition threads, I got curious to see if I could make a runner in 20 minutes. Not the most optimized, ridiculous dice pool normal character you see on DS, just someone that was somewhat competent at what they do. It was interesting. Let's see what other people can make.

Here are the rules:
1. BP system following all the normal character creation rules available.
2. Standard 400 Point build.
3. You may use a program, such as a spreadsheet or chummer to assist you, but you have to start from scratch and not load any existing characters you may have or use them as cheat sheets.
4. You stop at 20 minutes and post whatever you've got. If you didn't get around to finishing something, then the character doesn't have it. If you have left over BP you lose it. ex. I forgot about contacts until the end and didn't have enough time to pull points out of other things before the limit, so Mr. Schmidt doesn't have any. Not the way I would normally run a character, but that's the game.
5. Every book is allowed.
6. You also need to buy gear and knowledge skills.
7. Post your character here, maybe highlight some highs and lows of the character.
8. We'll trust everyone to be honest about the time they took and whether they broke any rules or if something would be acceptable at their table, please no debates about whether something is allowed or not.

First Character- Mr. Schimdt, Dwarf Mage

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Metatype- Dwarf
BOD- 5
AGI- 3
REA- 3
STR- 3
CHA- 2
INT- 3
LOG- 5
WIL- 5

EDG- 2
MAG- 5

Qualities-
Positive
Magician (Hermetic)

Negative
Addiction (Mild) (Betel)
Codeblock
Poor Self Control (Braggart)
Scorched
Sensitive System

Active Skills
Assensing- 2 (Spec. Astral Signatures)
Binding- 2 (Spec. Air Spirits)
Chemistry- 1 (Spec. Drugs)
Con- 1
Counterspelling- 4
Demolitions- 1
Etiquette- 2 (Spec. Magic Communities)
First Aid- 1 (spec. Combat wounds)
Medicine- 1
Negotiate- 1
Perception- 2 (Spec. Visual)
Pistols- 1 (Spec. Semi-Auto)
Spellcasting- 5 (Spell Manipulation)
Summoning- 5 (Spec. Air spirits)

Knowledge Skills-
Area Knowledge: Seattle 2 (spec. Redmond)
Magical Theory- 4 (spec. Conjuring)
Magical Threats- 1
Magical Tradiations- 2 (spec. Mages)
Alcohol- 2
News- 3
German- 3
Japanese- 3
Firearms- 1

Spells-
Stunball
Heal
Increase Reflexes
Improved Invisiblity
Control Actions

Gear-
Armor Jacket- Mods- Non-Conductivity, Gel Packs, Ruthenium Polymer Coated, Secure Tech Forearm Guards, Vitals Protector, Leg and Arm Casings
Ares Predator IV- Smartgun System, Silencer, Concealable Holster (50 reg ammo, 30 APDS) (forgot SnS, doh!)
Survival Knife
Hermes Ikon (apparently without an operating system or programs)
Drugs- 10 Betel, Jazz, Zen, Psyche, Tempo
Goggles Rating 6- (with nothing in them, I keep finding little things I didn't finish)
Lifestyle Middle one Month

Bonded Foci-
Sustaining Focus Force 3 (Health)
Power Focus Force 2

Contacts-
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

Normally I would want to tweak him more, and I missed a lot of details, but overall, I think he's pretty playable. DP 12 for his primary skills (Spellcasting and Summoning). Decent drain pool, but not amazing. 6 for pistols if he gets in a fight (8 once he buys an image link). Enough knowledge skills that he's not too flat and mechanical. Most of his gear makes some sense. Finding gear was the hardest part, even using chummer, wish I remembered it had a search function. Wasted a good minute trying to find where goggles were and then forgot the image link.

Wow, this sounds incredibly stressful actually. Still, kind of a neat idea. I might do one if I was more lacking in stuff to do than time to do stuff in...alas.

[Shinobi Killfist]

I was the one who spawned the discussion to some degree. My 17 minute character. Quick concept super agile asthmatic elf.I wasted a minute or two dithering on making him a changeling or not to get the max 15 agility, in the end decided not to. I just don't like them. I'm sure I may have missed a thing or 2, but we are not the most detail oriented gaming group and my tendency is to pick up things like armor mods in play. I like refining the professionalism of his attitude, gear, plans in play instead of having a end character from the start.

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Wheezer (Elf)
B 4/5, A 8/13, R 5/9, S 2/3, C 3, I 4, L 2, W 3, E 4, Ess 0.35, Init 9/14, IP 1/3
Condition Monitor boxes (Physical/Stun): 11/10
Disposable Commlink Condition Monitor: 9
Disposable Commlink Condition Monitor: 9
Armor (Ballistic/Impact): 18/12
Skills: Athletics Group 1, Close Combat Group 1, Con 1, Escape Artist 1, Etiquette 1, Firearms Group 2, First Aid 3, Perception 2, Pilot Ground Craft 1, Stealth Group 1
Knowledge Skills: Dive Bars 3, English N, Forensic Countermeasures 5, Gang Turf Seatle 3, HTR Tactics 4, Restaurants 3
Metatype Abilities: Enhanced Senses: Low-Light Vision
Qualities: Asthma, Bad Luck, Exceptional Attribute: Agility, Restricted Gear: Muscle Toner, Restricted Gear: Suprathyroid Gland
Cyberware:
Bone Lacing (Plastic)
Cybereyes (4) with Eye Recording Unit, Flare Compensation, Image Link, Low-Light Vision, Smartlink, Thermographic Vision, Vision Enhancement (3), Vision Magnification
Reaction Enhancers (2)
Retractable Climbing Claws
Wired Reflexes (2)
Bioware:
Muscle Toner (4)
Suprathyroid Gland
Gear:
AR Gloves
Chameleon Suit
Concealable Holster
Disposable Commlink
Disposable Commlink
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit
Joe Cannon with Fake License: Wired Reflexes (4), Fake SIN (4), Low Lifestyle
Medkit (6)
Suzuki Mirage
Weapons:
Ares Alpha [Assault Rifles, DV 6P vs. B-1, SA/BF/BF-L/FA, RC 2, 42 ©] with Grenade Launcher, Regular Ammo x100, Smartgun System, Internal
Ares Alpha Grenade Launcher [Grenade Launchers, DV 12P(f), -1/m vs. I+5, SS, 6 ©] with Flash Minigrenade x100, Flash-Bang Minigrenade x11, Fragmentation Minigrenade x10, Smartgun System, Internal, Thermal Smoke Minigrenade x10
Ares Alpha Grenade Launcher [Grenade Launchers, DV 12P(f), -1/m vs. I+5, SS, 6 ©] with Flash Minigrenade x100, Flash-Bang Minigrenade x11, Fragmentation Minigrenade x10, Smartgun System, Internal, Thermal Smoke Minigrenade x10
Ares Predator IV [Pistols, DV 5P vs. B-1, SA, 15 ©] with Regular Ammo x100, Smartgun System, Internal
Ingram Smartgun X [Submachine Guns, DV 5P vs. B, BF/BF-L/FA, RC 3, 32 ©] with Folding Stock, Gas-Vent 2 System, Regular Ammo x100, Smartgun System, Internal, Sound Suppressor, Stick-n-Shock x100
Attack of Will (vs. Spirits) [DV 3P vs. I]
Retractable Climbing Claws [Exotic Melee Weapons, DV 2P vs. I]
Unarmed Strike [Unarmed, DV 3P vs. I]

[Critias]

Caveat: I'm breakin' the rules! He's not an SR4A character built with 400 BP. It also took me just a tinch over 20 minutes, because I had to stop and Facebook my boss when I saw him come on-line, to make sure it was okay for me to do this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

So, here's an SR5 guy I just threw together! My NDA's got me glossing over some of his chargen details, and I'm erring on the side of not giving away too many details -- costs for qualities, what exactly some qualities do, details on adept power, stats for gear, etc -- but I just though it'd be a fun way to spend 20 minutes.

For wholly unrelated reasons I've got Ancients on the brain right now, so I just went for a generic "street kid joins the gang when his adept powers make him surprisingly badass" angle. Also, since I heard a sequel is in the works, I was playing some Mirror's Edge earlier, so when I had a few points lying around I decided to make him kind of free-runny (so he can jump out of nowhere like a friggin' anime character). Elfy McStabbity here isn't the brightest bulb on the streets, but he's a hard-driving, hard-partying, sword-swingin', badass. I'm not sure how well received he'd be in your average black trenchcoat game, but it's the first concept that jumped into my head when the clock started ticking, so oh well. He's what you get!

[ Spoiler ]

A – Elf
B – Stats
C – Skills
D – Adept
E – Nuyen

BOD 3
AGI 6
REA 5 (6)
STR 4
WIL 3
LOG 2
INT 4
CHA 4

EDG 5
ESS 6
MAG 6
INI 10 + 2d6
PHY: 6 MEN: 4 SOC: 6

Positive: Ambidextrous, Catlike, Natural Athlete, Mentor Spirit (Dragon Slayer)
Negative: Code of Honor (elves), Distinctive Style (Ancients wear), SINner (Criminal)

Active Skills: Stealth Skill Group 2, Automatics 4, Blades 6, Etiquette 1 (Street +2), Gymnastics 5 (Parkour +2), Intimidation 4 (+2), Pilot Ground Vehicle 6 (Motorcycle +2), Survival 1 (Urban +2),
Kknowledge Skills: English N, Sperethiel 3, Seattle Street Gangs 2 (Ancients +2), Seattle Parkour 2, Street Life 2

WEAPONS: Colt Cobra TZ-120, Sword, Survival Knife, Knife
ARMOR: Armor Jacket
GEAR: 100 rounds regular ammo, Renraku Sensei commlink, Fake SIN [3], Suzuki Mirage, Low Lifestyle (3 mos. prepaid)
NUYEN: +530 leftover cash to add to lifestyle roll

ADEPT POWERS: Enhanced Accuracy (Blades) (1), Danger Sense (1), Combat Sense (3), Critical Strike (Blades) (2), Improved Ability (Blades) (2), Improved Reflexes (1), Light Body (2), Wall Running

CONTACTS:
Belial (Ancients Chapter President) (6/2)
Taser (Ancients Combat Mage) (2/3)
Random Fixer Guy (4/1)
Random Mechanic Guy (1/2)

EDIT: typo!

[Shinobi Killfist]

That is a pretty decent list of adept powers for 6 magic. I'm interested to see the cost of the powers. Hopefully reaser #4.

[Makki]

the challenge would be even more interesting, if someone on this board presented the class/archetype with some character features. Because I can manage a 20minutes build of a character that I thought up myself as I already know what to get him and most of the time is invested in finding the stuff. But if a concept is new, that's a different kttle of fish

[Garvel]

@ thorya:
No native language? Poor Mr. Smith (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

@ Critias:
No operating system or programs on the comlink? is that on purpose?

[Shinobi Killfist]

@ thorya:
No native language? Poor Mr. Smith (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

@ Critias:
No operating system or programs on the comlink? is that on purpose?

I can't speak for Critias but in SR4 until the group had a tacnet or something set up only the decker and riggers did that, the rest of us had junk comlinks to fly under the radar by broadcasting, but it had nothing on it to hack etc. IN SR5 with cyberdecks coming back I suspect comlinks will be more like the pocket secretary of 1-3e, no real programs etc just a phone, matrix device.

[RHat]

the challenge would be even more interesting, if someone on this board presented the class/archetype with some character features. Because I can manage a 20minutes build of a character that I thought up myself as I already know what to get him and most of the time is invested in finding the stuff. But if a concept is new, that's a different kttle of fish

One option would be to put some loose character descriptions together - perhaps descriptions with 3 elements, setting out how the character should be but leaving a lot of room to work with?

[Sunshine]

So, here's an SR5 guy I just threw together!

I am sooo dying from envy right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)