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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 ![]() |
Ice/Cold Armor
spiked Metal Armor or blunt Metal Armor Fire Armor Blast/Air Armor Light Armor I'm somehow missing the equivalent to Elemental Strike and Elemental Aura spell. Version 2.0 [ Spoiler ] Versions 1.1 [ Spoiler ] Versions 1.0 [ Spoiler ] Edit: updated with user suggestions |
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The ShadowComedian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 ![]() |
i don't like magic.
i don't like adepts. but still, no, no drain for this. else elemental strike would need to create drain as well. because the elemental strike is an offensive and not just defensive power. i'd guess they'd need to learfn it for each elemental effect they want to use? or is it supposed to be one time learning and adapting as needed? if it's the latter, it needs to be more expensive in terms of power points. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 ![]() |
The second version is better, but instead of Magic rating damage I'd make it the Mystic Armor rating damage, since that's what it's functioning off of. Magic damage seems too good to me.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 755 Joined: 8-August 12 From: Geogia Member No.: 53,120 ![]() |
I like the first one. But I think you should take out the damage from it and add instead a resistance based on the element used.ex. ice armor gives insulation magic. I suggest this mostly because ink it makes more sense and having it do magic damage per CT is a bit daunting in power for also netting armor.
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 ![]() |
keep in mind there is a (totally useless and overprized) power in Digital Grimoire called Elemental Resistance. It adds Mystic Armor's full rating against a chosen element.
I tried not to copy it or make it redundant. But now, as I think about it, my Elemental Armor could be a rework of Elemental Resistance. I incorporated your ideas in the first post. I'm still not sure about drain... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 681 Joined: 23-March 10 From: Japan Member No.: 18,343 ![]() |
I prefer version 1.1 option 1. I don't think that is replaces the Elemental Resistance power as your version is activated rather than always on and provides free armor. To that end, 0.5PP may be low (with no drain). I'd probably make it 1 PP, it is free armor after all, even if only for a limited duration. I'd also require that you could only take the elements that you have for your Elemental Strike power, further limiting this new power.
Just my 2¥ |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 705 Joined: 3-April 11 Member No.: 26,658 ![]() |
It specifies that everyone and everything in contact with the adept take damage.
Does this mean an adept with Elemental Strike (prereq) plus this who attacks an opponent, makes that opponent first resist their unarmed damage (with elemental effect) followed by the armor damage (with elemental effect)? If so, that's actually pretty powerful, and I'd agree that you should bump the price up some. If not, you may want to specify that the damage only takes effect when an enemy tries to touch you, and not vice verca. |
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Douche ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 ![]() |
It specifies that everyone and everything in contact with the adept take damage. Does this mean an adept with Elemental Strike (prereq) plus this who attacks an opponent, makes that opponent first resist their unarmed damage (with elemental effect) followed by the armor damage (with elemental effect)? If so, that's actually pretty powerful, and I'd agree that you should bump the price up some. If not, you may want to specify that the damage only takes effect when an enemy tries to touch you, and not vice verca. Also, how would the 'damages everyone and everything' bit affect, say, having fire armor up and trying to use a weapon? Would the armor surround the pistol (and what happens to a bullet exiting the armor)? Would a quarterstaff be entirely wreathed in the fire (flaming melee weapon!), or would the bit poking through the fire armor take damage and catch on fire? What happens if you have electrical armor on and touch a metal wall? Would the electricity zap the wall (for being in contact with the armor) and then conduct through it to you and electrocute you? |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 ![]() |
Also, how would the 'damages everyone and everything' bit affect, say, having fire armor up and trying to use a weapon? Would the armor surround the pistol (and what happens to a bullet exiting the armor)? Would a quarterstaff be entirely wreathed in the fire (flaming melee weapon!), or would the bit poking through the fire armor take damage and catch on fire? What happens if you have electrical armor on and touch a metal wall? Would the electricity zap the wall (for being in contact with the armor) and then conduct through it to you and electrocute you? How does the [Element] Aura spell answer these questions? Let's go from there and not invent new rulings... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 755 Joined: 8-August 12 From: Geogia Member No.: 53,120 ![]() |
I feel that depending on which version you use the price should vary. Lol version 1-1 should be about .75 while version 1-2 should be at least 1. Or you could add them together for 1.5 or 2 pp
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 ![]() |
Isn't there a power that does exactly this in the digital grimoire already?
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Douche ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 ![]() |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 ![]() |
Isn't there a power that does exactly this in the digital grimoire already? It's worse, it sucks and it lacks style (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) edit:typo |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
It's worth, it sucks and it lacks style (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Strictly a matter of opinion. *shrug* |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,782 Joined: 28-August 09 Member No.: 17,566 ![]() |
It's worth, it sucks and it lacks style (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This i will agree with. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,373 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Stuttgart, Germany Member No.: 18,036 ![]() |
Also, how would the 'damages everyone and everything' bit affect, say, having fire armor up and trying to use a weapon? Would the armor surround the pistol (and what happens to a bullet exiting the armor)? Would a quarterstaff be entirely wreathed in the fire (flaming melee weapon!), or would the bit poking through the fire armor take damage and catch on fire? What happens if you have electrical armor on and touch a metal wall? Would the electricity zap the wall (for being in contact with the armor) and then conduct through it to you and electrocute you? Just thought about it a moment. Reflecting on how others handled it (like Fantastic Four, X-Men,...), I wonder if a power has to have advantages only? Let's effect Elemental Armor the adept's gear aswell! E.g. if he had Mystic Armor 4 and Elemental Armor [Fire], he's better wearing Armor with Fire Resistance upgrade. With Elemental Armor [Electricity] He needs to make sure, all his electronics are optical... Now, Version 2 is everything but overpowered: Elemental Armor Cost: .5 Prerequisites: Mystic Armor, Elemental Resistance Elemental Armor temporarily enhances the adept's Mystic Armor an elemental effect (see pp. 164–165 of this book and pp. 154–155, SR4) as chosen when selecting the Elemental Resistance power. While active, the power coats the adept with a visible effect appropriate to the chosen element. Everybody and everything (including the adept's own gear) getting in contact with the adept must resist damage equal to the adept's Mystic Armor's power rating. The type of damage is elemental according to the chosen element. Activating Elemental Armor is a Simple Action, after which the effect lasts for (Magic attribute) Combat Turns, but may be turn off with a free action at any time. I still miss some kind of temporary armor enhancement... |
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