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ShadowDragon8685
post Jun 28 2013, 04:08 AM
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I do not have a copy of SR5 yet. However, someone on Dumpshock was kind enough to link to This post on Shadowrun4.com wherein KarmaInferno discloses all the horribleness in its terrible glory.

Here is that list in its unadulterated state of poo, by the way. I've omitted the "No wireless bonus" entries, which is ironic as many of them were things that bloody well could have done with wireless boni. (Seriously, dafuq were they smoking? Your goddamned cyberblades need internet access to snap out, but your commlink, something which is by design intended to handle large amounts of data, can't get a boost by cloud computing? Come on guys, there are glaucoma patients and traumatized war veterans who desperately need whatever it is you smoked!)

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Without having access to an SR5 book, I am going to say that, sight-unseen, here is how I would be houseruling things.

1: Everything that gets implanted in your body gets hardwired to your brain, for better or for worse, unless it's something with a nefarious purpose that wasn't put there by you, such as the cranial bomb that Renraku so thoughtfully fitted you with as a farewell present after your stint in their corporate prison.

2: Connectivity works exactly as it worked in SR4. You CAN wirelessly connect the things you're wearing, but if you're more security-conscious than that, you can fit them with skinlinks or connect them via fiber-optic cable. Esoteric connections (such as laser and skinlink) still work and exist as they always did.

The "Wireless Boni" (seen above) get adjusted as follows:

Many things have been tagged with simpler boilerplate.
PAN means that it works in the listed "wireless bonus" manner if it is connected to your PAN by any means, but does not need Matrix access to function. (IE, it will still work IN A CAVE, with a BOX OF SCRAPS. As long as your PAN is functioning.) You can command it by any means at your disposal for manipulating your PAN, including free, if you have a direct neural link of some sort or another, such as an implanted commlink/deck or an implanted datajack connected by fiber-optic. It CAN be done wirelessly, sure.
INDUCTION CHARGE is an interesting case. Things which charge by induction will always do so, they don't have to broadcast their location to the Matrix. If the induction power is available, it is available passively, and the devices can recharge. And even if some place has instituted a system where the induction charge needs a device to say "Hey, I'm waiting for a charge here, fill me up," it may have to broadcast its location to the charger, but it still does NOT have to listen to anything the Matrix is saying.
CYBER means that it's implanted and functions as though it were always connected to your PAN, because it's been WIRED INTO YOUR SKULL!
If it has any other text, then it was interesting enough to warrant me thinking about it and dedicating my thoughts to text. Now those are indented, too!



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So, there you have it. Some houserules, probably ready to go out of the box for anyone familiar enough with SR4 to have a working understanding of the SR4 Matrix topography (IE, you know what mutual signal range is and can extrapolate from that to determine if two devices can wirelessly interact through the matrix mesh,) and delivered by someone who is furious with the idea that Sammies needed a nerf or that hackers needed to be able to brick someone's cybereyes in the middle of a firefight.


[e]And now the nested lists actually work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
[e][e]And now with additional indentations on the things with notes instead of tags.
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- ShadowDragon8685   The Matrix Bonuses in all their terrible glory.   Jun 28 2013, 04:08 AM
- - RHat   So I take it you're just throwing out the dist...   Jun 28 2013, 04:12 AM
|- - apple   QUOTE (RHat @ Jun 27 2013, 11:12 PM) So I...   Jun 28 2013, 10:48 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   RHat: The problem is that distributed computing on...   Jun 28 2013, 04:19 AM
|- - RHat   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 27 2013, 10...   Jun 28 2013, 04:21 AM
- - Not of this World   No, I'd say 70% of this is simply going away. ...   Jun 28 2013, 04:24 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   Not of this World: Thanks, feel free to keep your ...   Jun 28 2013, 04:28 AM
- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 12...   Jun 28 2013, 04:32 AM
|- - Critias   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jun 27 2013, 10:32 ...   Jun 28 2013, 04:40 AM
||- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 27 2013, 09:40 PM) W...   Jun 28 2013, 05:24 AM
||- - Critias   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jun 28 2013, 12:24 AM) Wh...   Jun 28 2013, 05:29 AM
||- - Udoshi   QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 27 2013, 10:29 PM) L...   Jun 28 2013, 08:24 AM
||- - Critias   QUOTE (Udoshi @ Jun 28 2013, 02:24 AM) I ...   Jun 28 2013, 09:13 AM
||- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 28 2013, 04:13 AM) S...   Jun 28 2013, 10:10 AM
|||- - Critias   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 05...   Jun 28 2013, 10:29 AM
|||- - Mach_Ten   QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 28 2013, 11:29 AM) S...   Jun 28 2013, 10:51 AM
|||- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 28 2013, 05:29 AM) S...   Jun 28 2013, 03:09 PM
|||- - Epicedion   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jun 28 2013, 11:09 AM) S...   Jun 28 2013, 04:44 PM
||||- - KarmaInferno   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jun 28 2013, 11:44 AM)...   Jun 28 2013, 05:00 PM
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|||- - Mäx   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jun 28 2013, 06:09 PM) T...   Jun 28 2013, 07:13 PM
|||- - UmaroVI   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 28 2013, 03:13 PM) ...   Jun 28 2013, 07:44 PM
|||- - apple   QUOTE (UmaroVI @ Jun 28 2013, 02:44 PM) N...   Jun 28 2013, 11:28 PM
||- - cndblank   QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 28 2013, 03:13 AM) O...   Jun 28 2013, 02:46 PM
|- - Patrick Goodman   QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Jun 27 2013, 11:32 ...   Jun 28 2013, 06:17 PM
- - Tzeentch   Some of these online-enabled bonuses are funny and...   Jun 28 2013, 04:55 AM
|- - cryptoknight   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jun 27 2013, 11:55 PM) ...   Jun 28 2013, 12:58 PM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Jun 28 2013, 01:58 ...   Jun 28 2013, 06:52 PM
- - Epicedion   Several things: 1) "Power by induction...   Jun 28 2013, 05:13 AM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jun 28 2013, 07:13 AM)...   Jun 28 2013, 06:18 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jun 28 2013, 12:13 AM)...   Jun 28 2013, 08:47 AM
|- - apple   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jun 28 2013, 12:13 AM)...   Jun 28 2013, 10:58 AM
- - Tzeentch   1. A signal that strong would indicate a better th...   Jun 28 2013, 05:26 AM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jun 28 2013, 01:26 AM) ...   Jun 28 2013, 05:39 AM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jun 28 2013, 06:39 AM)...   Jun 28 2013, 06:01 AM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jun 28 2013, 02:01 AM) ...   Jun 28 2013, 06:34 AM
- - phlapjack77   SR4A has this to say about DNI: "In addition ...   Jun 28 2013, 06:13 AM
- - Epicedion   QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Jun 28 2013, 02:13 A...   Jun 28 2013, 06:46 AM
|- - phlapjack77   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jun 28 2013, 02:46 PM)...   Jun 28 2013, 07:21 AM
- - hermit   Should I decide to houserule SR5 into working for ...   Jun 28 2013, 06:56 AM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 28 2013, 02:56 AM) Sh...   Jun 28 2013, 07:11 AM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jun 28 2013, 08:11 AM)...   Jun 28 2013, 07:41 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE "Bend over" and "rip-off...   Jun 28 2013, 07:18 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE I think this cloud enhanced stuff is a reall...   Jun 28 2013, 07:50 AM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Makki @ Jun 28 2013, 01:18 AM) The...   Jun 28 2013, 08:57 AM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 04...   Jun 28 2013, 11:48 AM
||- - Cochise   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jun 28 2013, 01:48 PM) It...   Jun 28 2013, 01:48 PM
|- - CeeJay   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 10...   Jun 28 2013, 02:06 PM
- - Moirdryd   I'm my case I'll be swapping some of the b...   Jun 28 2013, 10:27 AM
- - BunnyColvin   Thanks for the reposting of the Matrix Bonuses...s...   Jun 28 2013, 12:06 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE http://www.shadowrun.com/2070/2013/06/28/f.....   Jun 28 2013, 01:18 PM
|- - cryptoknight   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 28 2013, 08:18 AM) CG...   Jun 28 2013, 01:25 PM
||- - branford   QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Jun 28 2013, 08:25 ...   Jun 28 2013, 05:41 PM
|- - Mach_Ten   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 28 2013, 02:18 PM) CG...   Jun 28 2013, 01:31 PM
|- - Aaron   QUOTE (cryptoknight @ Jun 28 2013, 08:25 ...   Jun 28 2013, 04:49 PM
- - Sengir   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 05...   Jun 28 2013, 01:32 PM
- - JamesX5   You do know that we generally used fibre optics fo...   Jun 28 2013, 05:26 PM
- - X-Kalibur   Perhaps the bonuses from gear being wifi enabled s...   Jun 28 2013, 05:28 PM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Jun 28 2013, 01:2...   Jun 28 2013, 05:30 PM
- - JamesX5   And there is that one simple question which can on...   Jun 28 2013, 05:42 PM
|- - Epicedion   QUOTE (JamesX5 @ Jun 28 2013, 01:42 PM) A...   Jun 28 2013, 05:47 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (JamesX5 @ Jun 28 2013, 01:42 PM) T...   Jun 28 2013, 05:50 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jun 28 2013, 11:50 AM) Ma...   Jun 28 2013, 05:57 PM
||- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jun 28 2013, 01...   Jun 28 2013, 06:13 PM
|- - JamesX5   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Jun 28 2013, 06:50 PM) Ma...   Jun 28 2013, 06:14 PM
- - JamesX5   Noise is generated not only by distance, but also ...   Jun 28 2013, 05:54 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (apple @ Jun 28 2013, 05:58 AM) 1: ...   Jun 28 2013, 06:24 PM
|- - BunnyColvin   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 01...   Jun 28 2013, 06:54 PM
- - Tashiro   Actually, the induction recharge is kind of cool, ...   Jun 28 2013, 06:31 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jun 28 2013, 01:31 PM) A...   Jun 28 2013, 06:50 PM
|- - Tzeentch   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jun 28 2013, 07:31 PM) A...   Jun 28 2013, 08:42 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jun 28 2013, 03:42 PM) ...   Jun 28 2013, 09:57 PM
- - hermit   A couple of the Bonuses are actually cool and actu...   Jun 28 2013, 06:33 PM
- - Tashiro   Fingertip Compartment: It's locked. It takes...   Jun 28 2013, 06:57 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (BunnyColvin @ Jun 28 2013, 01:54 P...   Jun 28 2013, 07:03 PM
|- - Tashiro   I don't know if a fingertip compartment should...   Jun 28 2013, 07:11 PM
||- - apple   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jun 28 2013, 02:11 PM) I...   Jun 29 2013, 12:08 AM
||- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (apple @ Jun 28 2013, 08:08 PM) d) ...   Jun 29 2013, 12:52 AM
||- - apple   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 07...   Jun 29 2013, 01:04 AM
|- - Daedelus   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 12...   Jun 28 2013, 07:15 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Daedelus @ Jun 28 2013, 10:15 PM) ...   Jun 28 2013, 07:21 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 28 2013, 02:21 PM) Boat ...   Jun 28 2013, 07:29 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jun 28 2013, 10:29 PM) D...   Jun 28 2013, 07:42 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 28 2013, 02:42 PM) Smart...   Jun 28 2013, 07:49 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jun 28 2013, 10:49 PM) A...   Jun 28 2013, 07:51 PM
- - JamesX5   If you have wireless wired reflexes and wireless r...   Jun 28 2013, 07:22 PM
|- - Mäx   QUOTE (JamesX5 @ Jun 28 2013, 10:22 PM) I...   Jun 28 2013, 07:25 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 28 2013, 02:25 PM) As th...   Jun 28 2013, 07:29 PM
|- - JamesX5   QUOTE (Mäx @ Jun 28 2013, 07:25 PM) As th...   Jun 28 2013, 07:35 PM
|- - Tashiro   QUOTE (JamesX5 @ Jun 28 2013, 02:35 PM) B...   Jun 28 2013, 07:38 PM
- - JamesX5   Well. I guess we just have to wait and see. Thanks...   Jun 28 2013, 07:41 PM
- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jun 28 2013, 02:11 PM) I...   Jun 28 2013, 08:00 PM
- - Moirdryd   Now that is a VERY Shadowrun way of opening up the...   Jun 29 2013, 12:55 AM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Moirdryd @ Jun 28 2013, 08:55 PM) ...   Jun 29 2013, 12:57 AM
- - Moirdryd   As an SR3er never cared for skin link... But those...   Jun 29 2013, 01:02 AM
|- - ShadowDragon8685   QUOTE (Moirdryd @ Jun 28 2013, 09:02 PM) ...   Jun 29 2013, 01:05 AM
|- - apple   QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Jun 28 2013, 08...   Jun 29 2013, 01:11 AM
- - apple   Yes. But yeah, everything was totally ignored and...   Jun 29 2013, 01:03 AM
- - Moirdryd   Aye... For the last one I kinda had visions of the...   Jun 29 2013, 01:09 AM
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