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 Jun 30 2013, 01:41 AM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526  |
A question comes to mind. Do the matrix overwatch of a site generate Overwatch Score for actions undertaken legally while they are hacking the hardware of intruders who are in the process of committing a crime? If the system aggressively targets anyone who is attempting to circumvent a security protocol, what's to stop the GOD agent swarms from demolishing employees who are legally defending corporate assets?
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Jun 30 2013, 02:07 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Magic.
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Jun 30 2013, 02:09 AM
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
I imagine extraterritoriality would kick in somewhere.
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Jun 30 2013, 02:10 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
I would imagine the legitimate corporate forces would have some sort of Identifier tag for IFF purposes (Identification Friend or Foe) and would answer any enquiry by Overwatch surveillance so that they do not draw down it's wrath.
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Jun 30 2013, 02:22 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
Yea and in the matrix book we can have rules for spoofing/forging those IDE and then the jello mold really begins to wobble.
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Jun 30 2013, 02:28 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,946 Joined: 1-June 09 From: Omaha Member No.: 17,234 |
Yea and in the matrix book we can have rules for spoofing/forging those IDE and then the jello mold really begins to wobble.
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Jun 30 2013, 02:49 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (DWC @ Jun 29 2013, 08:41 PM)  A question comes to mind. Do the matrix overwatch of a site generate Overwatch Score for actions undertaken legally while they are hacking the hardware of intruders who are in the process of committing a crime? If the system aggressively targets anyone who is attempting to circumvent a security protocol, what's to stop the GOD agent swarms from demolishing employees who are legally defending corporate assets? Nothing at all, and this is one of the exact points why no sane AAA would ever let GOD have access to their systems. |
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Jun 30 2013, 03:40 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,973 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Fairfax, VA Member No.: 13,526 |
If GOD can't hit legit users inside an area who are drawing their attention, how can they hit other users in the same systems for doing the same things?
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Jun 30 2013, 03:44 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
QUOTE (DWC @ Jun 29 2013, 10:40 PM) If GOD can't hit legit users inside an area who are drawing their attention, how can they hit other users in the same systems for doing the same things? That's the whole point of Sleaze as a concept, ain't it. Convincing the system you're totally legit and meant to be there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) |
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Jun 30 2013, 03:45 AM
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
QUOTE (DWC @ Jun 29 2013, 11:40 PM) If GOD can't hit legit users inside an area who are drawing their attention, how can they hit other users in the same systems for doing the same things? Seriously, extraterritoriality. GOD can operate under a "hey this is your problem" policy and let the corps do whatever they want in their own territory. If it spills out into the streets, the public areas, they can get involved. Sort of like how you can go from dealing with Knight Errant in the office building to Lone Star once you're outside. Or vice versa, however that's working now. |
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Jun 30 2013, 04:05 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
There will be a lot more about this in the Matrix splat, I'm sure. The short answer is demi-GODs. Local versions of the GODs.
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Jun 30 2013, 06:51 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,962 Joined: 27-February 13 Member No.: 76,875 |
QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jun 29 2013, 07:49 PM) Nothing at all, and this is one of the exact points why no sane AAA would ever let GOD have access to their systems. You seem to be making a rather large assumption there. A few of them, actually, primarily unfounded. |
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Jun 30 2013, 09:26 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE If GOD can't hit legit users inside an area who are drawing their attention, how can they hit other users in the same systems for doing the same things? A gamey mechanism, I suppose. I more wonder what would stop a corp from having one hacker commando per sprawl that zips to anywhere intruders are detected and brick the hell out of them so on-site security just need to bag them. Kind of makes the whole playing non-awakened characters idea redundant, if it's not stopped by something, doesn't it. But maybe their defense line is "a good GM shouldn't do this because that would be unfair" or something like that. |
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Jun 30 2013, 09:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Vienna, Austria Member No.: 7,312 |
QUOTE (Bull @ Jun 30 2013, 06:05 AM) There will be a lot more about this in the Matrix splat, I'm sure. The short answer is demi-GODs. Local versions of the GODs. With Aztechnology that would be "Tezcatlipoca Virtual Sun Guard" while with Ares that should be the "Hercules Virtual Leet Matrix Guard", if you search the listing you'll find it under Ares HVLMG, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Fluff and Sunshine |
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Jun 30 2013, 08:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
QUOTE (Bull @ Jun 30 2013, 04:05 AM) The short answer is demi-GODs. Local versions of the GODs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif) Running with this theme we should have Pantheons (local collections of demi-GODS that report to GOD) and GOD-blooded (technomancers who are agents of the Pantheons). huh .... actually this is starting to sound a hell of a lot cooler than I thought when I clicked Reply ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) |
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Jun 30 2013, 08:13 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
GOD was established with the TRINITY (TRansorbital-INternational-Interorganisational-TreatY) accords.
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Jun 30 2013, 08:53 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
If your OS goes critical while you're in a host (say, an Ares research facility host), it doesn't grab you, it just notifies the host you're in, which immediately spots you and launches IC (and maybe gets marks? I don't remember off the top of my head). So it's not all up in the host's biz, it's just lending a friendly helping hand.
Leave the host, on the other hand, and you're burned, dumped, and traced, as usual. |
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