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> Revised Copy?, Will you get the 1st printing, or wait for errata?
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Tashiro
post Jul 11 2013, 02:51 AM
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I won't be getting the LE book, simply because - while it looks absolutely stunning - I know there's going to be errors in it which will be fixed in later printings. I will be getting the rulebook when it comes out, and I know when the revised / errata'd book comes out, I'll trade up to it (which is what I did with 4E, effectively).

How about you?
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Thanee
post Jul 11 2013, 03:09 AM
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First Printing LE + PDF + Revised Printing later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Jul 11 2013, 03:33 AM
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My LE's don;t get played with, so do't actually matter what the actual text says. They're for autographs and sketches from the artists and authors, and then they sit on my shelf as part of my collection.

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post Jul 11 2013, 07:55 AM
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I'm waiting for the 2dn printing before I buy a hardcopy. And keep my fingers crossed that CGL is doing a better job with releasing erratas and updating the later printings then in SR4 times.
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post Jul 11 2013, 08:16 AM
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I'll be picking up the hard copy when it gets to the uk and grabbing a revised print at some point later. I provide most of the SR material for my groups these days when we play so like to have multiple copies of my Essential books (BBB, Canon Companion, Man&Machine, Rigger3 and Matrix all have 2copied on my shelf). I can slip an erratta'd sheet into the book when it's available.
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post Jul 11 2013, 09:48 AM
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If anything, i will be getting the revised german version if i decide to buy in at all . .
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post Jul 11 2013, 01:33 PM
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Looks like I should have waited for the revised edition of the PDF too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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post Jul 11 2013, 01:48 PM
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If I get it (depends on what they are willing to fix vs. what they won't budge on), then I will definitely wait for an errata. The cost for mystic adepts to buy power points is one of the things they are looking at, and that alone would be a huge change.
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post Jul 11 2013, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jul 11 2013, 09:33 AM) *
Looks like I should have waited for the revised edition of the PDF too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)


Good thing DriveThru is great about handling updates to PDFs that you've bought through them. I don't know why Battleshop is weird about letting a user redownload a file they've bought, and restricts the number of times it can be downloaded though I would guess it's because they don't want to pay the higher hosting cost to support it.
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post Jul 11 2013, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 11 2013, 09:24 AM) *
Good thing DriveThru is great about handling updates to PDFs that you've bought through them. I don't know why Battleshop is weird about letting a user redownload a file they've bought, and restricts the number of times it can be downloaded though I would guess it's because they don't want to pay the higher hosting cost to support it.


Yeah, that's why I always shop through DTRPG.
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post Jul 11 2013, 03:29 PM
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As an aside, I have to say that I like so much more of what I see than I don't like. In fact, the only thing I've found in the rules that I don't like is the lack of a distinction between wireless bonuses and bonuses that just require a DNI, which seems to derive from an elimination of the entire DNI game mechanic. Beyond that, I like the initiative changes, the recoil changes, the migration of battle rifles and sporting rifles into just being sniper rifles, that the guns bring their own balance of damage, AP, accuracy, and recoil compensation, and the changes to vehicle stats.

I'll have to play some to say for sure, but all in all, since I've spent the last 24 years playing trigger-pullers and necksteppers, who have always been the system's whipping boys, I'm happier with it than any of the previews made me.
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post Jul 11 2013, 04:43 PM
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My combo for important books is English PDF + German book (independently of errata), will probably be the same this time around.
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post Jul 11 2013, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (DWC @ Jul 11 2013, 09:24 AM) *
Good thing DriveThru is great about handling updates to PDFs that you've bought through them. I don't know why Battleshop is weird about letting a user redownload a file they've bought, and restricts the number of times it can be downloaded though I would guess it's because they don't want to pay the higher hosting cost to support it.


It's a limit of the software they're using. The files are always on their site, so it doesn't effect hosting costs or anything. I'm hoping that will change at some point in the future.
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Tashiro
post Jul 12 2013, 10:04 PM
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I hope the official errata comes out quickly, but I'm expecting the revised will be in about a year or so. Or, if it sells well, with the second printing, which might be in six months or so.
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post Jul 12 2013, 10:06 PM
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My actual answer is "I already pre-ordered". I might get a later printing in a year or two.
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post Jul 12 2013, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jul 11 2013, 05:27 AM) *
Yeah, that's why I always shop through DTRPG.


I learned that lesson when my hard-drive went kablooey. All my DTRPG stuff was easy as pie to re-download. Battleshop... not so much.
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post Jul 12 2013, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Tashiro @ Jul 12 2013, 05:04 PM) *
I hope the official errata comes out quickly, but I'm expecting the revised will be in about a year or so. Or, if it sells well, with the second printing, which might be in six months or so.


There won;t be a "Revised" anytime soon. That's usually something done a couple years down the line to fix semi-major problems without doing a complete edition overhaul.

The second printing should incorporate any and all errata into it. ANd hopefully the errata should be released soon, as it's something that's being feverishly collected, looked over, and discussed and has been for a while now.
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post Jul 12 2013, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (Remnar @ Jul 12 2013, 05:22 PM) *
I learned that lesson when my hard-drive went kablooey. All my DTRPG stuff was easy as pie to re-download. Battleshop... not so much.


It should be a simple matter to contact Battleshop and request they enable your downloads again. Might take a few days.

Unfortunatly, Battleshops software is currently... limited. Which is why downloads expire. It's something that's in the works to be overhauled, but that's no simple and quick task.
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post Jul 13 2013, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 12 2013, 06:56 PM) *
There won;t be a "Revised" anytime soon. That's usually something done a couple years down the line to fix semi-major problems without doing a complete edition overhaul.


And those of us who are waiting don't care.
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post Jul 13 2013, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 12 2013, 05:56 PM) *
There won;t be a "Revised" anytime soon. That's usually something done a couple years down the line to fix semi-major problems without doing a complete edition overhaul.

The second printing should incorporate any and all errata into it. ANd hopefully the errata should be released soon, as it's something that's being feverishly collected, looked over, and discussed and has been for a while now.


Bull, does that mean the $300+ LEs are going to have the same basic proofing and errata problems the PDF does now?
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post Jul 13 2013, 01:56 PM
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Waiting for the errata. The LE looks cool, but even if I had the money for it, I don't support sloppy editing.
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post Jul 14 2013, 05:13 AM
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QUOTE (binarywraith @ Jul 13 2013, 07:46 AM) *
Bull, does that mean the $300+ LEs are going to have the same basic proofing and errata problems the PDF does now?


I would bet good money on it.
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post Jul 14 2013, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Bigity @ Jul 13 2013, 10:13 PM) *
I would bet good money on it.


And those who order the LE are doing just that. *sigh*
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post Jul 15 2013, 05:25 AM
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Yeah, it bothers me a bit whenever a special collector's edition comes out based on the first printing. Those, more than anything, should wait for at least one round of errata.

But, I'm of the mind that a game system should get either a public beta or a PDF release prior to being shipped to the printer to allow for errata to be collected prior to that first print run.
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post Jul 15 2013, 05:27 AM
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Yeah, I'm not paying money for it until the errata actually arrives.
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