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> Wireless bonus rules suck., Lets write the tacnet rules they should have used.
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post Jul 26 2013, 09:30 PM
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And if you do not put stuff on the matrix, then their design goal has failed. Looks like they failed for any of my characters, as I see absolutely NO benefit to havig stuff online (especially since you do not even have to get online for communications, apparently). *shrug*

You forgot Shuriken/throwing Knifes .
You get a Helluva Bonus to hit when You have wireless shuriken.
And I wonder what happens if a Hacker Hacks them....

with a Helluva Dance
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post Jul 27 2013, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 26 2013, 03:30 PM) *
You forgot Shuriken/throwing Knifes .
You get a Helluva Bonus to hit when You have wireless shuriken.
And I wonder what happens if a Hacker Hacks them....

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*Shakes Head* The absurdity of it all.
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post Jul 27 2013, 08:29 PM
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naaaahhh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
What was it that Wolverine would say ....
"You ain't seen nuthin' yet, Bub"
(because I bet a Dollar that CGL won't disappoint us with inventing even bigger absurdities )

Hough!
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post Jul 27 2013, 09:26 PM
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Oh, I got a good one....
Now Recoil is per person, not per weapon !
And carries over to the next Iniphase !
That means if I have (f.E.) an Ingram Smart X (with recoil 5) in my right hand an an Ares Predator in my left and shoot 10 Bullets from the ISX in my first Iniphase
and in my next iniphase I shoot my Ares Predator I'm at -6 (-5 from the Ingram Smart X and -1 from the AP ) Dice
to Hit
(Or didn't I read the RAW correctly ? please tell me I'm wrong, please, please !)

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post Jul 28 2013, 01:06 AM
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I think that's right, but it resets whenever you take an action that's not shooting. So first phase shoot the Ingram for an FA burst, then second phase, take aim with the Pred before shooting and boom, no recoil.
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post Jul 28 2013, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE (Medicineman @ Jul 27 2013, 05:26 PM) *
Oh, I got a good one....
Now Recoil is per person, not per weapon !
And carries over to the next Iniphase !
That means if I have (f.E.) an Ingram Smart X (with recoil 5) in my right hand an an Ares Predator in my left and shoot 10 Bullets from the ISX in my first Iniphase
and in my next iniphase I shoot my Ares Predator I'm at -6 (-5 from the Ingram Smart X and -1 from the AP ) Dice
to Hit
(Or didn't I read the RAW correctly ? please tell me I'm wrong, please, please !)

with a hopefully wrong Dance
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QUOTE (quentra @ Jul 27 2013, 09:06 PM) *
I think that's right, but it resets whenever you take an action that's not shooting. So first phase shoot the Ingram for an FA burst, then second phase, take aim with the Pred before shooting and boom, no recoil.


Recoil is per person, not per weapon -- which makes sense, because your arms aren't independently operating drones that don't affect each other.

Resetting recoil requires an action phase not shooting -- not just one action. So take a turn to go defensive, chuck a grenade, reload, punch a dude, whatever, then your recoil resets.
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post Jul 28 2013, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE (Epicedion @ Jul 27 2013, 08:33 PM) *
Recoil is per person, not per weapon -- which makes sense, because your arms aren't independently operating drones that don't affect each other.

Resetting recoil requires an action phase not shooting -- not just one action. So take a turn to go defensive, chuck a grenade, reload, punch a dude, whatever, then your recoil resets.


yeah, that's another example of unclear writing. the freelancers have clarified that taking any simple action in between shooting is intended to reset your recoil.
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post Jul 28 2013, 02:01 AM
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can we get back on topic please?
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post Jul 28 2013, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (Shadow Knight @ Jul 27 2013, 08:01 PM) *
can we get back on topic please?


Well, as long as your Recoil Compensators are Wireless Enabled, you should be okay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 2 2013, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 28 2013, 06:39 AM) *
Well, as long as your Recoil Compensators are Wireless Enabled, you should be okay. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


So did this idea die?
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:04 AM
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QUOTE (Shadow Knight @ Aug 1 2013, 07:43 PM) *
So did this idea die?


no, worse.

it is multiplying.

everyone wants to fix the problem in a different way.
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post Aug 2 2013, 03:57 PM
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My favorite Wireless bonus.

Trauma Patches.
Wireless: Instead of making a test, the patient is automatically
stabilized immediately.

I plan on shooting PCs way into overflow, slapping a Trauma patch on em, then ask, "You had Wireless completely disabled right?"
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post Aug 2 2013, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Aug 2 2013, 10:57 AM) *
My favorite Wireless bonus.

Trauma Patches.
Wireless: Instead of making a test, the patient is automatically
stabilized immediately.

I plan on shooting PCs way into overflow, slapping a Trauma patch on em, then ask, "You had Wireless completely disabled right?"

its not the patient that has to be wireless . Only the Patch !

with a wireless Dance
(as a free Action)
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post Aug 2 2013, 05:49 PM
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Bricking the Bandages (Trauma Patches)

hmmmmm
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post Aug 2 2013, 05:53 PM
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I kind of like the idea of the nanite swarm in the trauma patch that can connect to a proto-AI in a server farm somewhere to improve effectiveness of treatment so much that any sort of adverse situation is compensated for effortlessly.
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (DWC @ Aug 2 2013, 07:53 PM) *
I kind of like the idea of the nanite swarm in the trauma patch that can connect to a proto-AI in a server farm somewhere to improve effectiveness of treatment so much that any sort of adverse situation is compensated for effortlessly.

not sure if serious . .
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:13 PM
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I won't dispute that it's goofy but how else do you rationalize a lump of chemical impregnated adhesive gauze working better when it can connect to the matrix?
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:19 PM
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I just don't know anymore. I'm honestly wondering if wireless bonuses should just be switched out for a computer+logic (1) test. 'Hey guy, you successfully used google! Have a bonus!'
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (DWC @ Aug 2 2013, 07:13 PM) *
I won't dispute that it's goofy but how else do you rationalize a lump of chemical impregnated adhesive gauze working better when it can connect to the matrix?


Because instead of just dumping all chemicals it has into the patient and hopes for the best it transmits the data it collects to a database which picks out the right combination?
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (Ixal @ Aug 2 2013, 02:20 PM) *
Because instead of just dumping all chemicals it has into the patient and hopes for the best it transmits the data it collects to a database which picks out the right combination?


You mean with the wireless-enabled nanobots on the patch, right? Oh wait...
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (quentra @ Aug 2 2013, 07:22 PM) *
You mean with the wireless-enabled nanobots on the patch, right? Oh wait...


And whats that supposed to mean?
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE (Ixal @ Aug 2 2013, 02:24 PM) *
And whats that supposed to mean?


The mechanism for releasing the right amount of drugs calculated by the Googl-sorry, the Matrix? It's a patch. It's literally a piece of fabric slathered with drugs? (with and RF transmitter in it for some god-forsaken reason)
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (quentra @ Aug 2 2013, 07:28 PM) *
The mechanism for releasing the right amount of drugs calculated by the Googl-sorry, the Matrix? It's a patch. It's literally a piece of fabric slathered with drugs? (with and RF transmitter in it for some god-forsaken reason)


And a rifle is a muzzle loader which you manually fill first with black powder and put a lead ball in it.

I don't see how the word "patch" automatically means a low tech fabric strip instead of a plastic strip with several chambers of chemicals which can be opened separately by remote command and a very basic scanner for pulse etc. Especially considering the price tag of a trauma patch.
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:39 PM
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500 yen? Yes, that is terribly expensive given that you can also get a rating 2 medkit for the same price with it's own expert system! Crazy. Wonder why the slap patch couldn't have it's own expert system for that price? No one will ever know.
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post Aug 2 2013, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (quentra @ Aug 2 2013, 07:39 PM) *
500 yen? Yes, that is terribly expensive given that you can also get a rating 2 medkit for the same price with it's own expert system! Crazy. Wonder why the slap patch couldn't have it's own expert system for that price? No one will ever know.


Because the patch is still supposed to be small, easily applied and a consumable item so it would take up unnecessary space and reduce the profit margin of the manufacturer. Why put an expert system on every patch instead of just a transmitter and maintain a database?
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