Street Sam, not street legal. Options

[Chance359]

So in an effort to build a street sam of my own ran into a problem, I decided to take the one in the core book apart and see how he was built. he spent too much money. 607.555 nuyen

cyberware 193000
28000 Cybereyes: 3 (flare comp, low light, smartlink, thermo, vision enchancement: 2, Vision Mag)
7200 Dermal Plating: 2 (alpha)
74800 15k Cyberarm: 15K Str Customiation, 19.5K enhancement +3 str, 19.5K enhancement +3 agil, 4.8 sub machine gun, 1 external clip port
83000 15k Cyberarm: 15K Str Customiation, 19.5K enhancement +3 str, 19.5K enhancement +3 agil, 6 +2 armor, 5 spur, 3 cyberslide

bioware 317000
24000 enhanced articulation
17000 platelet factories
56000 reflex recorders (blades, longarms, sneaking, unarmed)
190000 Synaptic booster: 2
30000 Syntha cardium: 1

vehicles 12000
-12000 Harley Scorpion

Gear (60000)
-1650 earbuds [500 audio enhancement: 1, spatial reconizer)
-47200 4 fake SIN [Rating 4, each with fake licenses 2400(Rating 4, concealed carry, possession of firearms,
possession of augmentations)],
-3000 Hermes Ikon commlink (Rating 5),
-600 jammer (area, Rating 4),
-3150 lined coat [9, chemical protection 3, fire resistance 3, non-conductivity 3],
-750 Medkit: 3
-1500 medkit (Rating 6),
-100 micro-transceiver,
-15000 Middle Lifestyle (3 month),
-750 5 stim patches (Rating 6),
-1000 2 trauma patches,
-300 white noise generator (Rating 6)

Weapons 25555
-1000 Katana
-500 Sword
-1450 Ares Light Fire 75 (smart linked) w/ 3 spare clips, 100 rounds regular ammo]
-1925 Ares Predator V (smartlinked APDS ammo (100 rounds) , 3 spare clips]
-1530 HK-227 (smartlinked) 3 spare clips, 100 rounds explosive ammo]
-4200 FN HAR (int Smartlink,3 spart clips, 100 APDS ammo
-2850 Enfield AS-7 (int Smartlink, 3 spare clips, 100 flechette ammo
11800 Ingram Valiant (Int smartlink 3 spare clips
-300 3 high explosive grenades [Grenade, non-aerodynamic, DV 16P, AP –2,
Blast –2/m]

total spent
607555

I'm guessing that he was build with gear and ware prices being alot lower. Can we have those prices please?

[Wakshaani]

Are you talking about one you built for yourself, here, or the archetypical one? If the archetype, he's not one of mine; the idea of an Orc Sammy with two cyberarms hurt my head too much. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Chance359]

This is the one from the core book. fixed the first post to reflect that.

[Mäx]

I'm guessing that he was build with gear and ware prices being alot lower. Can we have those prices please?

Yes please.

[apple]

Can you get additional money with the 25 free Karma points during character creation?

SYL

[Elfenlied]

Can you get additional money with the 25 free Karma points during character creation?

SYL

Yes, you can.

[DWC]

And 25 spent karma should only net him another 50k to spend. Even if he maxed out on negative qualities to get 50 karma to spend, he would only have 100k in extra cash, and he's got positive qualities, ruling that out.

[apple]

Just to test it: can you check the Sam again with SR4 prices? I have a certain feeling ...

SYL

[Critias]

There's a cap on how much karma you can spend on extra resources (10, for 20k extra cash), just FYI.

[DWC]

There's a cap on how much karma you can spend on extra resources (10, for 20k extra cash), just FYI.

I'm blaming forgetting that on being up all night with a newborn. That clause makes the street samurai over by even more cash. Time to take a closer look at the hacker.

[Raiden]

Street sams got no love in sr5 so far

[apple]

There's a cap on how much karma you can spend on extra resources (10, for 20k extra cash), just FYI.

So perhaps you can tell us how the street sam was build?

SYL

[Chance359]

Personally I think this counts as the nicest thing done for street sams so far in 5th ed. I'm also pretty sure none of his Karma was spent

25 Karma
Ambidextrous (-4)
Code of Honor (Bushido) (+15),
Guts (-10),
Home Ground (Street Politics)(-10),
Incompetent (Acting) (+5)
21 karma to spend

Both attributes and skills have both the appropriate amount of points to match up to a priority.

[Elfenlied]

So perhaps you can tell us how the street sam was build?

SYL

Afaik, it was Aaron who build him.

That said, a change in cyberware price would go a long way in appeasing all those displeased by the perceived cyber nerfs.

[Chance359]

So perhaps you can tell us how the street sam was build?

SYL

Dumpshock user "Aaron" is the one who built him.

[Samoth]

It would have been extremely helpful for the Archetypes to list which priority choices they were built with so players could get a more diverse feel for character gen. I wonder who's bright idea it was to not show that?

[Chance359]

near as a i can figure

a 450K
b att 20 points
c ork
d skills 22 points
e magic

I did ask about priorities being posted in the errata, no response on that.

[Critias]

So perhaps you can tell us how the street sam was build?

SYL

Nope. Sorry.

[UmaroVI]

The sample characters having errors is tradition, guys.

[Sendaz]

The Followers of the Way of Do As We Say, Not As We Sample? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Elfenlied]

The sample characters having errors is tradition, guys.

Hey UmaroVI,
will you be working on new archetypes once SR5 Missions rolls out? I really liked the ones for SR4.

[binarywraith]

The Followers of the Way of Do As We Say, Not As We Sample? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Catalyst is nearly the Temple of that Way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)

[CeeJay]

Catalyst is nearly the Temple of that Way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)

Yupp. And the Combat Mage (you know the human with the lovely troll image next to him) looks really weird, too.

The way I deconstructed him was
A: Magic
B: Attributes
C: Resources
D: Skills
E: Race

Everything adds up quite nicely except that he spent only about 12.000 Nuyen on gear out of his budget of 140.000. That guy doesn't even have a commlink...

And his armor rating of 13 is one too high for his armor jacket. Just looks like, you know, maybe a Troll's natural armor was added to that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

-CJ

[Chance359]

A few errors i can accept, but to making something so far beyond what is recreatable really points to how much of a rush Catalyst was to get things sown up before the summer con season.

[UmaroVI]

Hey UmaroVI,
will you be working on new archetypes once SR5 Missions rolls out? I really liked the ones for SR4.

I'm not sure yet. I'm definitely holding out for the first big round of errata (so that Mystic Adepts get fixed).