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 Jul 22 2013, 01:58 AM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300  |
Ok, Tracer rounds are actually pretty badass these days. Mix them with another action type on a full auto weapon (yes you can) and it increases the accuracy by 1 when you fire more than one shot, not stacking with smartlink (but stacking with laser sights).
That's not the good bit. The good bit is that tracers reduce range modifiers by 1 AND wind modifiers by 1. Add a smartgun and take aim with vision magnification, and you're shifting both range and wind modifiers by 2 steps each. In adverse conditions, that is HUGE! |
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Jul 22 2013, 05:57 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Just remember, Tracers work both ways.
But, yes, walking your fire into a person can be a nice way to tell them, "I have a big budget for ammo and I want to bill all of it to Mr. Johnson!!!" |
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Jul 23 2013, 01:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 427 Joined: 22-January 10 From: Seattle Member No.: 18,067 |
Tracer rounds have been exactly that badass since they invented them in WWI for exactly those reasons. They're especially good for shooting at zeppelins.
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Jul 23 2013, 01:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 12-July 13 Member No.: 127,215 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 22 2013, 05:57 PM)  Just remember, Tracers work both ways. He beat me too it. |
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Jul 23 2013, 03:24 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (Slide @ Jul 22 2013, 08:55 PM) He beat me too it. Don't feel too bad, I used to beat everyone... Once upon a time...
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Jul 23 2013, 03:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
You could use dim or IR tracers so they only work both ways sometimes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 23 2013, 03:27 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jul 23 2013, 11:25 AM) You could use dim or IR tracers so they only work both ways sometimes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Alternatively, go the other way and switch to 100% incendiary ammunition. Sure it works both ways, but your enemy will be on fire and thus too distracted to take advantage of that fact. |
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Jul 23 2013, 03:27 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Tracers aren't a light bulb... They're burning (usually) metal in a hollow cone of a bullet shooting out the back end like a Scottish rocket's kilt.
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Jul 23 2013, 04:01 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Yup, and they don't show the trace at the muzzle. Mostly they ignite at 75-100m out, some start more like 10 meters out.
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Jul 23 2013, 05:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 364 Joined: 12-July 13 Member No.: 127,215 |
QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Jul 23 2013, 03:27 AM) Alternatively, go the other way and switch to 100% incendiary ammunition. Sure it works both ways, but your enemy will be on fire and thus too distracted to take advantage of that fact. being on fire should give a -20 to everything except being on fire. |
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Jul 23 2013, 05:20 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
QUOTE (Slide @ Jul 23 2013, 01:07 PM) being on fire should give a -20 to everything except being on fire. I never got that straight. Is being on fire a simple or complex action? Also remember that it could come up in play. |
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Jul 23 2013, 05:47 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
Being on fire is a free action. Trying to put it out is a complex action.
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Jul 23 2013, 12:56 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 22 2013, 11:47 PM) Being on fire is a free action. Trying to put it out is a complex action. Unless the Fire's Wireless is enabled, then it is a Simple action to put it out (What? Seems asbout as plausible as having a wireless bonuse for a melee weapon). |
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Jul 23 2013, 01:15 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
Just do not try to use Reckless Fire Extinquishing by dumping the closest container of liquid over yourself to try and extinquish the fire, ALWAYS take the time to verify the contents are not actually flammable themselves.
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Jul 23 2013, 04:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 24-May 13 From: Chicago Member No.: 103,325 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 23 2013, 04:27 AM) Tracers aren't a light bulb... They're burning (usually) metal in a hollow cone of a bullet shooting out the back end like a Scottish rocket's kilt. Not really knowing how tracers work, wouldn't that prohibit the use on non-lethal rounds mixed with tracers. |
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Jul 23 2013, 05:03 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,537 Joined: 27-August 06 From: Albuquerque NM Member No.: 9,234 |
QUOTE (White Buffalo @ Jul 23 2013, 09:24 AM) Not really knowing how tracers work, wouldn't that prohibit the use on non-lethal rounds mixed with tracers. It doesn't prohibit it. It just means the target gets killed. |
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Jul 23 2013, 05:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 24-May 13 From: Chicago Member No.: 103,325 |
QUOTE (kzt @ Jul 23 2013, 06:03 PM) It doesn't prohibit it. It just means the target gets killed. "Sir, I shot him with Stick and Shock as ordered. If the contract had payed for a smartlink the perp might have lived. but...shrug" |
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Jul 23 2013, 06:00 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 2-April 09 Member No.: 17,039 |
QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jul 22 2013, 11:25 PM) You could use dim or IR tracers so they only work both ways sometimes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Or a wireless bonus lets them instead show up on your AR. That would be a nice bonus. |
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Jul 23 2013, 08:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 24-May 13 From: Chicago Member No.: 103,325 |
QUOTE (saiyanslayer @ Jul 23 2013, 07:00 PM) Or a wireless bonus lets them instead show up on your AR. That would be a nice bonus. Or you could hack your bullets in flight and then they won't hurt. Hackers can do that now, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif) |
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Jul 23 2013, 08:42 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
YES!! I just bricked his bullets.
You mean his gun right? No I mean his bul-- *thunk* |
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Jul 24 2013, 01:18 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (White Buffalo @ Jul 23 2013, 03:38 PM) Or you could hack your bullets in flight and then they won't hurt. Hackers can do that now, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif) A Bricked Bullet is still a hyperkinetic chunk of steel-jacketed lead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Jul 24 2013, 01:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 24 2013, 02:18 AM) A Bricked Bullet is still a hyperkinetic chunk of steel-jacketed lead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) I don't think hyperkinetic is the term you want, although it certainly would be interesting if that's what happened to hacked bullets (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What exactly are Shadowrun bullets made of? A case could be made that they are all some sort of armor piercing design as AP in Shadowrun means "Anti Personnel." Perhaps that ever-mysterious plassteel with bonded protective coatings? |
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Jul 24 2013, 02:51 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Tzeentch @ Jul 23 2013, 06:30 PM) I don't think hyperkinetic is the term you want, although it certainly would be interesting if that's what happened to hacked bullets (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What exactly are Shadowrun bullets made of? A case could be made that they are all some sort of armor piercing design as AP in Shadowrun means "Anti Personnel." Perhaps that ever-mysterious plassteel with bonded protective coatings? Ummmmm... AP means Armor Piercing, not Anti-Personnel. |
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Jul 24 2013, 02:57 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Simple support fire control with tracers. Call fire support at intersection of tracers.
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Jul 24 2013, 02:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 459 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 24 2013, 03:51 AM) Ummmmm... AP means Armor Piercing, not Anti-Personnel. Not in Shadowrun. |
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