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 Shadowrun: Returns is live, 20 years since the SNES, 19 years since Genesis |
 Jun 12 2013, 01:30 PM
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#226
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024  |
For me, the mages v shaman thing.
Mages only cast spells, shaman only summon spirits. Really? That's not true to the spirit of old SR at all. Hit points v SR damage tracks |
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Jun 12 2013, 02:04 PM
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#227
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Yeah, those mainly.
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Jun 12 2013, 06:55 PM
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#228
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Douche Group: Banned Posts: 1,584 Joined: 2-March 11 Member No.: 23,135 |
QUOTE (Bigity @ Jun 12 2013, 09:30 AM)  For me, the mages v shaman thing. Mages only cast spells, shaman only summon spirits. Really? That's not true to the spirit of old SR at all. Hit points v SR damage tracks Is it true that mages only cast spells and shamans only summon spirits? Jake Armitage is historically a Shaman after all, and in the alpha gameplay video he has no summoning but lots of spellcasting. The Hit Point thing has been explained as functioning pretty much like a damage track, with LMSD all converted into damage points rather than simple boxes. It might be a little quirky, or look off, but should be functionally similar. |
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Jun 12 2013, 07:38 PM
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#229
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
All the write ups I've seen talk about how mages cast spells and shaman summon spirits. No mention of mages summoning or shaman casting.
Or elementals for that matter that I can remember. |
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Jun 12 2013, 09:32 PM
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#230
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
Can hardly wait, hope that it will run on my $100 craptop.
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Jun 13 2013, 08:39 AM
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#231
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
According to the early version of the game that comes with the level editor, shamans and mages might not have access to the same spell lists and only shamans can summon.
And there are hitpoints. You can't choose how to spend your combat pool either, and you don't get to roll dices in front of your computer, with your webcam checking how many hits you've got. I have to admit I don't care they don't strictly respect the mechanism, as long as they keep the spirit and atmopshere intact. |
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Jun 13 2013, 03:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
I can live with hitpoints. Mechanically it's a lot easier to code methinks.
Not so keen on the magey restrictions though, honestly. |
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Jun 14 2013, 07:26 PM
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#233
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Target Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 390 |
I am a bit opposed to the mage/shaman dichotomy also, but you could roll up a character with both mage and shaman skills who could summon and cast all spells.
So there's that I suppose? |
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Jun 14 2013, 07:28 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
i think you can't roll a character like that actually . .
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Jun 14 2013, 07:42 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 390 |
unless something has changed very recently, you can. I believe it was confirmed on their forums (which I can't access due to a work filter sadly)
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Jun 14 2013, 07:42 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
You are pretty much stuck with the archetypes they've set up.
No idea if the level builder tools will let someone change that. |
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Jun 14 2013, 07:46 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 390 |
it's a classless system, so you can start out as a mage and pick up shaman skills later (or start out as a mundane and pick up both later I'd imagine)
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Jun 14 2013, 09:26 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Hm I didn't think you could grab other abilities unique to the other archtypes, but that would be something at least.
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Jun 18 2013, 03:11 PM
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#239
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
July 25! confirmed! http://harebrained-schemes.com/?p=3233&preview=true
Or July 24th if you are a backer. |
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Jun 18 2013, 08:03 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
that's . . a wednesday/thursday . .
i might have to call in sick maybe <.< |
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Jun 18 2013, 08:38 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 10-September 11 From: Lyon, FRANCE Member No.: 37,728 |
QUOTE (DamHawke @ Jun 18 2013, 05:11 PM) July 25! confirmed! http://harebrained-schemes.com/?p=3233&preview=true Or July 24th if you are a backer. While backers will have their keys on the 24th, the game won't be activated until the 25th. So it will definitivly be on the thursday Stahlseele. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But hey, pre-download is cool nontheless. |
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Jun 18 2013, 09:42 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
I might have to buy a better laptop to really enjoy.
80s music to go with theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBnwI2hyqeU |
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Jun 19 2013, 02:16 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Freaking A. A month later. Oh well.
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Jun 19 2013, 03:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
One extra month is still preferable to say, an ambiguous Fall 2014 release date (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jun 21 2013, 06:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 132 Joined: 18-May 12 From: Tacoma Member No.: 52,460 |
I just hope they don't take that date back & push it back further (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) (At least I have Borderlands and a couple SR/D&D campaigns to keep me busy until then)
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Jun 26 2013, 03:02 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611 |
QUOTE (Redjack @ Jun 26 2013, 05:04 AM) the upcoming phone-home to start the game feature of Shadowrun Returns. What's this what's this? I admit to not keeping up with SR:R news very closely... |
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Jul 2 2013, 02:23 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 390 |
Not sure what he's talking about. Maybe the fact that it's being released on Steam? Although I think they've said that they will provide DRM-free copies to backers, and have given backers refunds who are vehemently opposed to the Steam distribution.
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Jul 2 2013, 05:04 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
*Pokes My Inbox*
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Jul 2 2013, 05:06 PM
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#249
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,526 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
i don't have no mail yet either 'Ray.
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Jul 10 2013, 06:27 PM
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#250
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
Apparently we might be treated to some Harlequin in SRR:
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-a...530832503_n.jpg |
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