Shadowrun: Returns is live, 20 years since the SNES, 19 years since Genesis Options

[DWC]

Anyone else stumble across a bug where they can't buy cyberware?

[quentra]

I just met a certain elf.

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HARLEYQUIN ^_^

The writing is excellent.

[Epicedion]

Anyone else stumble across a bug where they can't buy cyberware?

It's not a bug (okay, it presents as a bug since the + doesn't work correctly, but it's workable), it's just awkward. You have to select the slot, then select the item, then click the slot again.

[Not of this Worl...]

Dude, the first character I made for this (And remade for my "Lets Play" videos) was Bull teh Ork Decker. I think EVERYONE is making an in game version of their first/favorite SR character.

Guilty as charged, I remade my 1st edition Elf Physad as my first character.

[quentra]

Crap, seem to have run into a bug at

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The Hunt mission. Namely, the second stage of the UB chapterhouse. I've reached the end of the map, and two bugs spawned that I killed, but then...nothing. Unless I've overlooked something, I feel like a bug should be spawning and open a passage to another room or something

In addition, none of the special abilities I've bought for my pistol show up as attack options save aimed shot, but I've got the pistols skill up to 7.

[X-Kalibur]

Crap, seem to have run into a bug at

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The Hunt mission. Namely, the second stage of the UB chapterhouse. I've reached the end of the map, and two bugs spawned that I killed, but then...nothing. Unless I've overlooked something, I feel like a bug should be spawning and open a passage to another room or something

In addition, none of the special abilities I've bought for my pistol show up as attack options save aimed shot, but I've got the pistols skill up to 7.

I have a problem with some of the assault rifle skills not working properly either (double tap exists for it and pistols but seems to do nothing?)

also...

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it should be that when the bugs die they are in spirit form for a turn and manifest again the next turn, meanwhile a certain lady you rescued should be decking in and releasing the door controls so you can escape

[quentra]

I have a problem with some of the assault rifle skills not working properly either (double tap exists for it and pistols but seems to do nothing?)

also...

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it should be that when the bugs die they are in spirit form for a turn and manifest again the next turn, meanwhile a certain lady you rescued should be decking in and releasing the door controls so you can escape

Actually I'm near the end of the game

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With Harley, but reloading the level seemed to have solved the issue.

Also, really annoyingly, triggering the wired reflexes dodge makes you dodge the next effect that occurs on yourself. Including reloading. And getting healed. And everything else that is not an attack.

[Umidori]

So I'm enjoying SRR immensely thus far.

For my first character, I went with a Troll with a Pink Mohawk, name of "Whop". Basically been maxing out Quickness, Body, and Shotguns. Good golly, but the shotguns are powerful! Just picked up the Remington 990 and used it to clear an entire chapter entirely by myself where I was supposed to hire help. Took out a boss and everything.

Been tempted to pick up some Cyberware, but I haven't felt the need, and I'm waiting for propely high grade stuff to be available - although I'm not entirely sure it will be before I beat the game. Ah, well.

~Umi

[quentra]

So, I beat it. It was awesome. Now I get to wait until someone makes modules of the old adventure modules...

[Umidori]

There's already an Alpha version of a remake of the SNES game. I expect after a couple months, we'll have some truly epic stuff.

~Umi

[CanRay]

The "Special Skill" in the game that I got as a Backer is making me laugh my hoop off!

[Critias]

Hotspur, Elven Decker, is sporting a datajack, basic optics (+3 accuracy), and -- for no real reason but that he ended up with an arm, IC -- got a basic cyberarm installed. All it does is give a HP bonus, but I figure I can upgrade it later, and in the meantime it helps my Combat Decker be a little more Combat-y.

[Stahlseele]

I made Van.
Due to how the "Char-Gen" works, he sadly ain't very effective at what he is supposed to be good at <.<

[SCARed]

care to explain a little more? I know he is a troll (SR-Nexus ...) and close combat-char, but why does he not meet your expectations? is close combat in general not worth the while? or is the troll handicapped?

[Stahlseele]

CC isn't worth it.
The CC Weapons suck.
You can't get the Attributes up in CharGen and it's too expensive in game.
No attribute boosting ware. not much money for ware to begin with.
And as of right now i think i found exactly 2 situations where the enemy was NOT capable of ranged combat.

[Bull]

Yeah, melee kind of blows. But to be fair, it's usually like that in Shadowrun anyway. the proverbial "you brought a knife to a gunfight" scenario.

[Stahlseele]

Yeah, melee kind of blows. But to be fair, it's usually like that in Shadowrun anyway. the proverbial "you brought a knife to a gunfight" scenario.

it's a completely viable tactic under SR 1-3 maybe even 4, not sure there.
the most hillariously broken build you could come up with in SR3 was Body 16, STR16, 8 points of Armor and a Dikote coated Pole-Arm.
STR+4D Damage with 3 Reach and not much that could hurt you at all.

[Bull]

Yeah, but as every cheese monkey I ever played with found out... you still gotta get in close. And even a heavy pistol at range beats a pole arm any day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Almost everyone who actually stuck with a melee character did so because it was a concept character and because they were roleplaying that concept, not because it was truly viable. (Though being a good GM, I always made sure to give them ways to shine in combat, because we're all tehre to have fun. If I played it realistically and played the enemy smart? Most would have been dead in a week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

that said, yeah. Melee is seriously underpowered in this. There just aren't any good Melee weapons. their damage ranges suck. But, they can actually move and attack as a single AP, so that's at least something, I guess.

[Blade]

I've had to switch to melee a few times to finish off an enemy after running out of ammo. Though now that I can have two shotguns, it's not happening as often as it used to.

[Stahlseele]

how do you run out of ammo? O.o
you need to spend one AP to reload, but ammo is infinite o.O

[Blade]

Yes, I meant having to reload.

[binarywraith]

I see a lot of bitching on the Steam forums, and I understand why.

This game is, at heart, an interactive Shadowrun novel with some tactical fighting portions....


... and I love it even more for that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Summerstorm]

Hm, well now that i have played a few hours tonight... started with my Troll Ki-Adept "Summerstorm" -wanted be good at that before getting to summoning, but had to switch over to "Leadstorm" a hard-boiled Elven (Yes a hardboiled elf) Detective-Gunslinger because i didn't like that you had to "cast" Ki-powers.

I would have prefered to have them weaker but always on, and maybe event get slots like the cyberware. (Which is another thing i don't like... why can my "body" take only one implant? Weird...

Rest of the game is great. (I love it when the dialogues also have a description of the manners, reactions of the partner). Story so far is good. Even though i am sure i already did this somewhere somewhen *g*. Maybe the story is just so totally Shadowrun it just feels so familiar.

Oh and P.S. Why does a Cyber-leg cost 2 Essence for each leg?
What is the backers "Special Skill"? I have unlocked it, never saw it...

[Lionhearted]

What I've seen of the game brought a tear to my eye *sniff* You did good...
and oh, Tom... My condolences

[Seerow]

I see a lot of bitching on the Steam forums, and I understand why.

This game is, at heart, an interactive Shadowrun novel with some tactical fighting portions....


... and I love it even more for that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Yeah, I'm about 4 hours in and feel pretty much the same.

My biggest gripe is not being able to save when I want to. I mean, I can understand no saving in combat, but if I'm just wandering around the bar, buying stuff, turning in missions, and spending karma, I should be able to save all of that without having to move on to the next section of the story before I'm ready.