Stupid Questions (fifth ed.), A running list of my stupid questions Options

[Pollution]

OK:

1) Is the Max rating for an attribute found in the Metahuman table now the max AUGMENTATION rating? i.e. Human with Cyber/Bio can't ever go above 6 Strength, even with Muscle Aug or similar?
2) Did I just read right that the Quality Exceptional Attribute can actually be used for Magic and Resonance????

I'm sure to find more. I'm working on building another excel sheet generator (For some unknown reason I do it for every damned version since 2nd ed). The questions keep piling up when I do them.

As of now, I've only got qualities and the metahuman table inputted, but the questions already begin right from the get go.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

1. Natural Maximums are what are listed in the table. Augmented Maximums are Current Rating +4.
2. Yes...

[Pollution]

1. Natural Maximums are what are listed in the table. Augmented Maximums are Current Rating +4.
2. Yes...

AH HA!!! couldn't find the +4 thing anywhere

So now the augmentation maximum is a derived number. (rather than a flat value).

Therefore, if a Human has a Str of 4 (base) his MAX Str is 8 with chrome/bio augmentation? Spending Karma on Str to a 5 raises your max to 9.

That's kind of an interesting situation here. Basically, the max stat boost you can get from ANY augmentations are 4. not just current rating +4, but 4 period.

think on it, you can never raise a stat to more than 4 above your current rating, so it might as well say "Maximum augmentation values are limited to 4 extra points".

From a coding perspective on my generator, I think the simple math would be:

Final Stat =
Base Stat + Augmented bonuses
If Final Stat > Base Stat +4 Then Final Stat = Base Stat+4....

Out of curiosity, where did you find the +4 in the book? Couldn't locate it in the cyber or bio sections.

[SpellBinder]

It's in there, somewhere, the +4 thing. I know, I've read it. But for the life of me I can't seem to find it at the moment.

The Index certainly could have used some work for pointing out important stuff to find.

[ElFenrir]

The +4 thing is for the TOTAL Maximum. So human adept with base Strength 4 can get up to a 10 if they get, say, Increased Strength 4 Adept Power and 2 levels of Muscle Augmentation. But a Strength 6 Adept wouldn't get any benefit above 10 after that; 10 is as high as they can go. (Exceptional Attribute of course lets you go 1 higher.)

It's Max Stat +4, that's as high as you can go. So Troll max Body augmented would be 14(rather than the 15 it used to be.)

[Lionhearted]

So the ideal street sammie is now a cripple with beefed out cyberlimbs?

[SpellBinder]

So the ideal street sammie is now a cripple with beefed out cyberlimbs?

Wasn't it before?

[Remnar]

Looks like you're right, I just cruised through the book and the only place that even talks about the "augmented maximum" is in some of the spells, it doesn't appear to be referenced anywhere else. Unless I missed it.

It was talked about quite a bit prior to release, so I guess that's probably errata.

[LGD]

Looks like you're right, I just cruised through the book and the only place that even talks about the "augmented maximum" is in some of the spells, it doesn't appear to be referenced anywhere else. Unless I missed it.

It was talked about quite a bit prior to release, so I guess that's probably errata.

It's on page 94. They really, really, really did not do a good job making it obvious/easy to find though- I had to do some extensive searching to find the rule.

And the augmentation cap is pretty clearly current rating +4, not maximum rating +4:

Keep in mind there are three restrictions when it
comes to purchasing gear. First, when purchasing augmentations
such as cyberware and bioware, each attribute
rating (Mental and Physical) can only receive an
augmentation bonus of up to +4. If the attribute being
raised has not reached its natural maximum limit, the
attribute can be raised naturally with Karma; but at no
point can augmentations exceed the +4 bonus cap.

[SpellBinder]

There it is. Funny that the index for Augmentation(s) points at page 95 instead... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Remnar]

It's on page 94. They really, really, really did not do a good job making it obvious/easy to find though- I had to do some extensive searching to find the rule.

And the augmentation cap is pretty clearly current rating +4, not maximum rating +4:

There it is, thanks.

[ElFenrir]

Hmm, missed that one. I knew the new max was Attribute +4, but I didn't think they'd cap the amount of bonuses(though, to be fair, it's kinda rough to actually GET more than +4, so perhaps that's a moot point at the end of the day.)