Early Adopter or Wait and See? |
Early Adopter or Wait and See? |
Jul 31 2013, 10:27 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 19-July 13 From: Knoxville, Tennessee U.S.A Member No.: 129,853 |
So, my group is playing one last six month Shadowrun campaign using Season 3 and 4 of Missions as a send off to fourth edition. A lot of this is because we want to give Fifth Edition time to get more books and stuff out before we make the leap, and the other part is because we've been playing Fourth for years now. Infact, in my current group, I am one of only two players that started before 4th edition. It seemed like an antiquate end to an age.
It got me thinking though, what is the Dumpshock community doing? Are you an early adopter or are you waiting like us? |
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Jul 31 2013, 10:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 28-April 09 From: Munich/Free State of Bavaria/Allied German States Member No.: 17,119 |
Our Shadowrun games are on hold at the moment and will be until the German edition is out. This is mostly because a lot of my group doesn't want to bother with translating stuff, but a strong point was "We want the errata stuff already in the hardcopy".
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Jul 31 2013, 10:37 AM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,003 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
Needs a maybe option.
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Jul 31 2013, 11:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 336 Joined: 18-June 08 Member No.: 16,062 |
We will complete the current mission with SR4. After that the german version, should be out (presumably with corretions and additional content) and will take us to SR5.
I am not all happy with it, yet it could be worse. Also SR5 is not all bad (some things are rather nice), still the things I don't like about it, I really despise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jul 31 2013, 11:47 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 15-May 07 From: The city of fury Member No.: 11,666 |
I'll wait a bit until the book is errated. Last time I when bought S4 I had to keep like twenty pages of errata with the book.
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Jul 31 2013, 11:54 AM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
Got the main PDf but will wait and see how the other books go, plus it gives me time to sit down and tinker with a few house rules.
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Jul 31 2013, 12:28 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Will ait until all the core expansions are out before making a final judgement (in German, with Errata and Corrections), but it doesn't look likely I'll switch over, currently. Too many deal breakers that won't go away because Hardy thinks they're features, not flaws.
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Jul 31 2013, 01:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 222 Joined: 17-October 12 From: Char Kuey Teow Member No.: 57,096 |
Will wait, for erratas and the fact that most of the group just only got onto SR 4 (amidst screaming that SR 3 is/was the only way to go) so...not anytime soon.
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Jul 31 2013, 02:46 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,930 Joined: 9-April 05 From: Scandinavian Union Member No.: 7,310 |
With most things in life early adoption is rarely a good idea, that and with SR you usually want the main supplements before you consider it (unless of course you're waiting for Rigger 5)
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Jul 31 2013, 02:53 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 18-May 13 Member No.: 100,914 |
I think I'll get it right away, but i'm cheating :
I'm french. by the time a french version is out, there will be all the reviews I need (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jul 31 2013, 04:06 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 19-July 13 From: Knoxville, Tennessee U.S.A Member No.: 129,853 |
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Jul 31 2013, 04:28 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
I'm not any of the above at the moment. Hoping to get in a game of SR5 over the next couple of weeks with friends to see how it plays out and give it a fair shot, just like with SR4 before it (we were skeptical then as well).
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Jul 31 2013, 04:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,632 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Portland Oregon, USA Member No.: 1,304 |
Waiting. I haven't actually read SR5 yet. I pre-ordered the book, and I'm in a long running SR4 campaign, so there's no real urgency to also get the .pdf.
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Jul 31 2013, 04:48 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 21-June 13 From: Minneapolis, Minnesota Member No.: 115,080 |
Gonna try it at GenCon with my crew, and if we like it, we'll jump after we run through Season 4 missions.
So, we'll likely make the move in a year or so. |
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Jul 31 2013, 04:53 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Wa, USA Member No.: 1,139 |
Well since I still run SR2, 3 and 4 depending on my mood I'm jumping in right away but at the same time I'll still go back to 2 and 3, we'll see if i go back to 4.
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Jul 31 2013, 05:20 PM
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Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 56 Joined: 28-November 02 Member No.: 3,654 |
This Poll needs a "Waiting for errata" option.
I like what I've read so far, but there are so many typos, omissions and errors that it's making it difficult to assimilate. There's no way that I would subject new players to the RAW. |
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Jul 31 2013, 05:29 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,575 Joined: 5-February 10 Member No.: 18,115 |
I picked up the PDF because I was facing the prospect of actually being a player rather than a GM for once, even if it was just an introductory style PBP game.
~Umi |
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Jul 31 2013, 06:08 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
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Jul 31 2013, 06:18 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
I'm also not sure. Maybe after the splat books are released & there's some official errata to clean things up. Gotta keep reminding myself that this is Shadowrun, not Deckerrun.
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Jul 31 2013, 09:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
Needs an option for "I am waiting for the corrected German translation".
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Jul 31 2013, 09:09 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,883 Joined: 16-December 06 Member No.: 10,386 |
I'm a probably never.
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Aug 1 2013, 11:49 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,076 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Rock Hill, SC Member No.: 7,655 |
Honestly, I don't like what I've seen of SR5 so far. It seems to be a collection of half-assed, half-baked rules changes and an endless series of pointless retcons and nerfs. And I'm not your classical grognard. I was one of the first and earliest adopters of SR4 back when everybody was beating their chest about how much superior SR3 was. I approve of progress and change when it is positive.
But SR5? Sorry. It has failed to impress me. Quite the opposite, it's got me canceling my preorder for the print version of the book, and wishing I had the $20 back for the purchase I made for the PDF. To the devs, I say better luck next time when you go to SR6. Maybe listen to wistful, misty-eyed grognards less and get some real game developers on staff. Going back to SR4 would be an upgrade at this point. |
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Aug 1 2013, 05:51 PM
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Knight Templar Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 212 Joined: 20-June 04 From: Ipswich, UK Just South of the Stinkfens Member No.: 6,424 |
I'm sticking with my SR2-3 hybrid.
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Aug 2 2013, 02:30 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
I'll see how I feel after the errata, and maybe some splatbooks, but right now, the rules seem like they set out to take away everything fun from the game. Pointless nerfs to everything, and ill-conceived rules such as the implementation of wireless, mages risking physical Drain from using their Edge, and keeping simple actions but saying you can only attack once a pass anyways, etc.
Honestly, the only reason I haven't completely written the new edition off is that the new edition will displace SR4, just like SR4 displaced SR3, and if I never make the switch, I'll be more marginalized on the forums. I like the rules-related discussions and banter, and I don't want to cut myself off from them. But right now, the rules are a mess. I'll wait until it is at least playable, even if it will still be bad. |
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Aug 2 2013, 03:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 21-February 07 Member No.: 11,050 |
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