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[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

you said: "They could be used, yes, but the change was made because how they could be used was confusing. You got the bonus dice to split between the two rolls, not the bonus dice to both."

in a discussion regarding the use of focuses to resist drain, i'm not sure what you would expect that to mean other than stating that they intended that you could use a spellcasting/summoning/binding focus to resist drain, but that people were getting confused into thinking they could use the focus for both, and as a result they changed it to make it clear that you couldn't use the bonus dice for both tests.

is that not what you were saying?

because my answer to that is "no, that very clearly isn't why they were changed, otherwise the changed versions would still let you use the bonus dice for drain". given that the newest versions were made to not allow using them to reduce drain ever under any circumstances, it would seem that the reason they changed them is that they never intended them to be used for drain resistance in the first place, and that it had nothing to do with people getting confused about using them to add to both dicepools.

To be fair, it was a Copy/Paste from 3rd Edition (copied directly over, if I remember correctly), which is how it worked back then.

[Draco18s]

you said: "They could be used, yes, but the change was made because how they could be used was confusing. You got the bonus dice to split between the two rolls, not the bonus dice to both."

Could, aux v.
"Used to indicate ability or permission in the past."

[Jaid]

Could, aux v.
"Used to indicate ability or permission in the past."

i'm not debating the former ability to use them that way. i'm pointing out that your stated reasons for them changing it are very obviously wrong. it wasn't that people were getting confused about using it for both the skill test and the drain resistance test... it was that they never ever ever intended for it to be an option in 4th edition to use it on drain resistance tests.

your claimed reason for the change is what is wildly inaccurate.

[Draco18s]

your claimed reason for the change is what is wildly inaccurate.

And yet I know that it was brought up on these very forums before.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

And yet I know that it was brought up on these very forums before.

Only because it was a direct Copy/Paste from 3rd Edition, and it was an expected useage due to the wording. That was clarified, and then published in Errata. It was never becasue people got confused about HOW it worked. It was commonly a question on IF it worked.