How to frame someone who wasn't even there Options

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I can't help but thinking that now forged image and audio tracks can be faked so perfectly by anyone for at least three decades, at some point the trick will have become so overused that law enforcement agency, juries and the audience will stop believing in them.

Well, after ten years of CSI-like shows, juries now require as much as they expect super-scientific evidence and impossible image enhancements. So I guess it depends on what the media teach people to believe. I wonder if the people from the smearing campaign & blackmailing department have the authority to ask screenwriters of the fictional entertainment department not to overuse footage forgery in their stories or at least have the good guys always detect them, to keep the audience gullible enough.

Indeed...

[Modular Man]

I'd guess it can be even easier.
Does the future suspect have an alibi? If not, and you've got time to get wheels into motion, try a double.
This double can get you any footage you need, and in times of Physical Mask and biosculpting, it's not too difficult, but it is reasonably rare and hard to get. Pair that with the doctored footage mentioned in all of the above and the case gets closed way fast. Really, in 2073, "guilty" is probably just "enough effort put into it".
My character's group went over certain ideas when trying to get someone to do our bidding. Sadly, we could neither break his alibi nor get him to do something stupid. Hey, we even pulled his shrink's files of him and still came up empty. In the end, we went to straight up threats. On a side note, those can work in a way like bribes do.

[KarmaInferno]

Is the character joining an existing team?

What was the team doing before she joined?

Framing someone for a murder, perhaps?

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-k

[Iduno]

The story doesn't make as much sense though. Jane is approached by W, so she kills W's wife? But there's at least enough there to work with. Thanks.

She shot at the boss, missed, and hit the wife? Or car bomb, or whatever.

Well, just say it's at a discount. After all, how's this guy going to know the going rate for a frame up?

One for the price of two?

[Kyrel]

You know, if we are talking about having a boss set up an employee in a company, and it's just to create a good in-game reason for a random ordinary citizen to turn into a shadowrunner, why go with murder? Why not just set the PC character up to take the fall in an embezzlement scam or something? Make the PC look like she's been "stealing" from the company or forging signatures or something. It's still illegal, it will lead to getting fired, and it can still send the person to jail and provide a future criminal record. If the potential jailtime is long enough, and the income is gone, there's your perfect excuse for disappearing into the shadows. Plus you have a potential plothook for getting back at the former boss, and possibly trying to clear the PC's name.

If it have to be a murder the PC gets framed for, a Shadowrunner Mage with a Physical Mask who is seen walking/sneaking past an external security cam with a changed time setting, could provide plenty of evidence that the PC was on site at the time of the murder. Combined with a small bit of physical evidence, it ought to be enough to get the PC set up with an arrest warrent and a potential future home on Death Row for murder.

[Bearclaw]

It's important to remember that the "police" are Lone Star, not the courts. The courts are the same guys with the same rules as right now. So, the Star might be willing to arrest her based on BS evidence, but getting ADA Dana Oaks to prosecute a questionable case is less likely, and getting a conviction is even less so. Especially if she has ANY money to hire a lawyer. And the cops will always suspect the husband, so he's going to need an airtight alibi before they even begin to look at any other theory.

[ZeroSpace]

I appreciate the advice, but it's been several months since I needed peoples input on this. I've already run the session this thread helped fill out.

You're a touch late to the party, dude.

[Sengir]

Trace DNA evidence is also a viable option, provided there's a logical excuse how the boss could have earlier obtained a DNA sample.

Standard employee screening for...chronic VITAS-related gene syndrome. What, are you doubting the company?

I can't help but thinking that now forged image and audio tracks can be faked so perfectly by anyone for at least three decades, at some point the trick will have become so overused that law enforcement agency, juries and the audience will stop believing in them.

Well, after ten years of CSI-like shows, juries now require as much as they expect super-scientific evidence and impossible image enhancements. So I guess it depends on what the media teach people to believe. I wonder if the people from the smearing campaign & blackmailing department have the authority to ask screenwriters of the fictional entertainment department not to overuse footage forgery in their stories or at least have the good guys always detect them, to keep the audience gullible enough.

That is actually how Corporation justifies the customary ultraviolence PCs engage in without instant execution (or more precisely, the part of the ultraviolence they are not simply licensed to do (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ): Every child can fake completely convincing CCTV footage, therefore its evidence value is close to zero.

[SpellBinder]

Not doubting it at all. I said logical and you came up with logical. It'd be up to the lawyers to debate whether or not it's legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Sengir]

Damn, didn't see this was a necro thread...

Not doubting it at all. I said logical and you came up with logical. It'd be up to the lawyers to debate whether or not it's legal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Lawyers? What do you think this is, a system where employees have rights? You might have the right to leave, but even that is subject to terms and conditions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[ZeroSpace]

Damn, didn't see this was a necro thread...

Even after I already called out that it was necro'ed? Should I be concerned for you, Sengir?

[SpellBinder]

Well, there's a card game where there's a vampire with his name...

[FuelDrop]

Well, there's a card game where there's a vampire with his name...

My god, you're right! Grab your torch and pitchforks, it's open season on all bloodsuckers!

[Sengir]

My god, you're right! Grab your torch and pitchforks, it's open season on all bloodsuckers!

Baron Sengir has flying, good luck getting up here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[FuelDrop]

Baron Sengir has flying, nice try (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

Time to break out the megastaker. This baby can stake vampires hiding behind engine blocks at a thousand paces. Fly all you want.

It also works on non-vampires.

[Bearclaw]

I appreciate the advice, but it's been several months since I needed peoples input on this. I've already run the session this thread helped fill out.

You're a touch late to the party, dude.

Yea, I must have done a search or something and this came up. Sorry about that.