[4e] What to do with dragon parts |
[4e] What to do with dragon parts |
Sep 1 2013, 11:00 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 12-February 13 Member No.: 73,824 |
Hello chummers!
We are playing a SR1 campaign with the SR 4 2050 rules. After an interesting and eventful run a team member was able to kill a dragon with a powerful artifact. Before we had to flee, my Hacker/Street Sam dwarf was able to get hold of three dragon teeth and six large dragon scales. Now I have been wondering: What can I do with them? I considered using the scales for a custom dermal plating. Would you think this to be a good idea? Alternatively, I could just sell them. What would be a reasonable price to get for them? They are from a dragon after all. Are there other possible uses? Thanks in advance! |
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Sep 1 2013, 11:12 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 23-March 11 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 25,463 |
I would not want to be in your skin, when some other dragon decides he wants the scales of his fallen comrade back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 1 2013, 11:18 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 12-February 13 Member No.: 73,824 |
Haha, that is true. It is my main reason of doubt about that plan, actually. Then again, a dragon dermal plating... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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Sep 1 2013, 11:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 651 Joined: 20-July 12 From: Arizona Member No.: 53,066 |
sell it to a mage & fast, no names, just lots of money on a cred stick
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Sep 2 2013, 12:30 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
Hide. Hide a lot.
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Sep 2 2013, 12:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 471 Joined: 7-November 10 Member No.: 19,155 |
Did you make sure to take a nice bath in the dragon's blood? Worked for Sigurd after all. As far as what to do with the teeth, I'd keep them for sowing when you encounter the aforementioned dragon-who-wants-his-chummer's-scales-back.
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Sep 2 2013, 12:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 598 Joined: 12-October 05 Member No.: 7,835 |
Or you could make a rating 6 katana weapon focus that doesn't require bonding.
Why would a dragon want some other dragon's scales? And what kind of effect would implanting one in your skin have? |
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Sep 2 2013, 01:01 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 12-February 13 Member No.: 73,824 |
Or you could make a rating 6 katana weapon focus that doesn't require bonding. Interesting idea! QUOTE Why would a dragon want some other dragon's scales? And what kind of effect would implanting one in your skin have? It would provide quite some armor. My GM mentioned it could have other features as well, an acidic resistance or the like. Heh, seems like I should ask my GM again how much other dragons would be after me for this. That dermal plating still sounds cool to me, but probably a bit short-sighted... Either way, how much would they be worth when selling to a mage? I couldn't find any hard numbers. |
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Sep 2 2013, 01:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 598 Joined: 12-October 05 Member No.: 7,835 |
What would the scale in your skin actually do?
Edit: Quite some armor? Is that like when Clint Eastwood had that woodstove door under his poncho? Anyway, it's his game. If he wants to make it a magical implant, then roll with it. There is literally something in a Shadowrun book, I think Street Magic, about a run to get a dragon's tooth to be shaped into a katana handle. Then, it was used to take a human life to make the focus I described. Even ivory is expensive. Could you imagine how much some rich person would pay to have a dragon's tooth in their library? |
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Sep 2 2013, 01:21 AM
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Running Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,003 Joined: 3-May 11 From: Brisbane Australia Member No.: 29,391 |
Initiate and use the scale and your metamagic to become a drake of that dragon type.
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Sep 2 2013, 01:44 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
You might not make as much money selling your dragonslaying teammate up the river, but you'll definitely live longer.
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Sep 2 2013, 07:03 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,401 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Just because you killed a dragon with an artifact doesn't make the dragon any easier to chopshop. I mean, essentially you just killed a Naval Battleship. Without specialized tools, how would you break it down? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Sep 2 2013, 07:17 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,389 Joined: 20-August 12 From: Bunbury, western australia Member No.: 53,300 |
Just because you killed a dragon with an artifact doesn't make the dragon any easier to chopshop. I mean, essentially you just killed a Naval Battleship. Without specialized tools, how would you break it down? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) chainsaw. solves everything. |
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Sep 2 2013, 08:57 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,082 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
Well, the enchanting rules in SM do list dragon parts as possible exotic reagents/telesma. How much of that is applicable in a 2050s game with lower mana levels and all would be another question, though...
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Sep 2 2013, 09:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 598 Joined: 12-October 05 Member No.: 7,835 |
In 1st ed, there was a published adventure where part of the plot was killing a dragon. There weren't any dragon vigilante groups at the time.
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Sep 2 2013, 02:41 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 12-February 13 Member No.: 73,824 |
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Sep 2 2013, 02:57 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
The revenge posses didn't show up until late 4th edition if you are playing in the 2050's you should be safe. Still watch your back it's cheaper to hire someone to take the loot rather than to buy it.
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Sep 2 2013, 04:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Pretty sure the early editions enchanting rules mentioned dragon teeth/blood/etc as use as telesma for enchanting. It didn't mention taking them by force specifically (In fact, I think it was something like - You want me to do WHAT in that bottle?)
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Sep 2 2013, 05:14 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
Well, the enchanting rules in SM do list dragon parts as possible exotic reagents/telesma. How much of that is applicable in a 2050s game with lower mana levels and all would be another question, though... Actually given that dragons were able to survive the low mana cycle, granted mostly by snoozing, rather than reversion like the metas probably means dragon bits are chock full of mana and would be ideal for reagents/telesma due to the inherent mana. |
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Sep 2 2013, 08:13 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
You're dead. You have in your possession ritual links, and no dragon dies without something coming looking for why, even if it's just his ally spirits.
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Sep 2 2013, 10:34 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,082 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
You're dead. You have in your possession ritual links, and no dragon dies without something coming looking for why, even if it's just his ally spirits. Or maybe dragons see defeat, especially at the hands of "younger races", as an utter disgrace and will do their best to distance themselves from the deceased. Dragon society is complicated and decidedly inhuman... Note we are talking about a time long before Clutch here. In 2075, having ever dealt with dragon parts is a death sentence -- but you also have dragons performing ritual meetings in human form and with entirely human manners... |
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Sep 2 2013, 10:44 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,973 Joined: 4-June 10 Member No.: 18,659 |
I'm not even worried about other dragons as a society. No Great Dragon goes through life without allies, their sheer level of power and longevity makes it natural for others to want something of them or owe them favors.
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Sep 2 2013, 11:10 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
Granted a lot of this will depend on if and who the Dragon has ties to. As for Ally Spirits, again that depends on how they were treated in life since death of the Master is a condition allowing them to break free.
Now if this was the same dragon I am thinking of I recall he was quite young and a bit full of himself, even by dragon standards. Plus I remember hearing there was another Dragon in play, but working the other side and they obviously didn't mind having his tail being kicked about. I think his death in this case could be chalked up to Draconic Darwinism and the runners were merely the tool of Fate in this situation as he was heading for a bad end regardless. It is a pity you didn't have time to gather some of the juicier bits of meat, though I suppose it is just as well. The stuff is toxic unless you know how to properly leech the meat, heavy minerals and such, usually by special preparations and burying it for a few months. Ah, but the flavour once you have rendered it safe for consumption and cooked properly....to die for. Sometimes literally as Dragons tend to not like the idea of being the eatEN instead of being the EatER. That and the 'Jewel' of the dragon of course, harvesting that would have fetched far more than the not inconsiderable monies you could get for the teeth and scales you had acquired. |
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Sep 2 2013, 11:50 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 12-February 13 Member No.: 73,824 |
Thanks for the input guys, there is much I didn't know or consider. Interesting stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Now if this was the same dragon I am thinking of I recall he was quite young and a bit full of himself, even by dragon standards. Yes, it was Geyswain. QUOTE That and the 'Jewel' of the dragon of course, harvesting that would have fetched far more than the not inconsiderable monies you could get for the teeth and scales you had acquired. What do you mean by that? |
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Sep 3 2013, 12:37 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,082 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
I'm not even worried about other dragons as a society. No Great Dragon goes through life without allies, their sheer level of power and longevity makes it natural for others to want something of them or owe them favors. It's not about great ones, either. People tend to forget that there are a lot of adult, not-great dragons around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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