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post Sep 18 2013, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 17 2013, 03:58 PM) *
"Well we got his attention. What the hell was step 2?"

Let's see...
Step one-get attention
Step two-
Step three-profit
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post Sep 18 2013, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Patrick Goodman @ Sep 17 2013, 09:46 PM) *
Kinda depends on how you measure success....

Mr. Sam did not like the juggernaut munching on his bike, it stopped doing that. Anything beyond that wasn't part of the deal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:27 PM
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Too bad vehicles don't have hardened armor as vehicles have a lot less vulnerable points than a critter. You can shoot my car to hell and it will keep on driving like nothing happened if you didn't hit the engine block, gas tank or tires, undercarriage. Over 50% of its mass is just casing which can be riddled to virtually no ill effect to the vehicle performance.(yeah the stereo may get destroyed or the aerodynamics may get worse etc, but it will still drive fine.) The same can't be said for a critter even if you are shot in the foot it causes problems. While hardened armor may have been a problem in 4e in how it worked, vehicle armor was much worse and virtually nothing was done for it.
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:27 PM
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post Sep 18 2013, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (Shinobi Killfist @ Sep 18 2013, 01:27 PM) *
Too bad vehicles don't have hardened armor as vehicles have a lot less vulnerable points than a critter. You can shoot my car to hell and it will keep on driving like nothing happened if you didn't hit the engine block, gas tank or tires, undercarriage. Over 50% of its mass is just casing which can be riddled to virtually no ill effect to the vehicle performance.(yeah the stereo may get destroyed or the aerodynamics may get worse etc, but it will still drive fine.) The same can't be said for a critter even if you are shot in the foot it causes problems. While hardened armor may have been a problem in 4e in how it worked, vehicle armor was much worse and virtually nothing was done for it.


Vehicles are still immune to stun and get LOTS of armor. So with the exception of anti-vehicular weapons they should only be taking (and then ignoring) stun from shots.
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post Sep 18 2013, 07:35 PM
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On a side note, the Juggie is listed as detecting electrical fields under it's motion detection, so one does wonder how it reacts to some devices with a stronger Signal strength.

Would it haze it's senses or be a big neon sign saying X marks the spot!

Would a TM 'smell' like a truffle to it?
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post Sep 18 2013, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (Sendaz @ Sep 19 2013, 03:35 AM) *
Would a TM 'smell' like a truffle to it?

Great, yet another reason not to play a technomancer.
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post Sep 18 2013, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 18 2013, 02:45 PM) *
Great, yet another reason not to play a technomancer.


Not like you run into Juggernauts inside a megaplex. What sane TM leaves the Megaplex? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 18 2013, 04:48 PM) *
What sane TM leaves the Megaplex? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)


TMs are sane?
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 19 2013, 05:48 AM) *
Not like you run into Juggernauts inside a megaplex. What sane TM leaves the Megaplex? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

Why not? that's where all the food is.
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 18 2013, 06:01 PM) *
Why not? that's where all the food is.

Well it's not like a Juggie can sneak into town, so local forces would be meeting it even before it gets close to the borders and they will bring out the big guns with decent AP, like anti tank weaponry.

Though I suppose there could be some parts of the Barrens it might pass unnoticed for a bit and the OP did mention it being just around a corner somewhere. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Sendaz @ Sep 19 2013, 06:09 AM) *
Well it's not like a Juggie can sneak into town, so local forces would be meeting it even before it gets close to the borders and they will bring out the big guns with decent AP, like anti tank weaponry.

Though I suppose there could be some parts of the Barrens it might pass unnoticed for a bit and the OP did mention it being just around a corner somewhere. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

THAT would make your players think twice about that street lifestyle!
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:26 PM
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Juggernaut rummaging around Redmond Barrens, going unnoticed until some pissed-off trog heavy shoots it with a Panther XXL to make it stop eating his bike, then takes off like a jackrabbit, kiting the thing into tourist town and straight through a Humanis chapterhouse, letting it go to town before Knight Errant can actually break out the heavy attack choppers to put it down for good?

That's the kind of pink mohawkery that needs to happen.
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Sep 18 2013, 06:26 PM) *
Juggernaut rummaging around Redmond Barrens, going unnoticed until some pissed-off trog heavy shoots it with a Panther XXL to make it stop eating his bike, then takes off like a jackrabbit, kiting the thing into tourist town and straight through a Humanis chapterhouse, letting it go to town before Knight Errant can actually break out the heavy attack choppers to put it down for good?

That's the kind of pink mohawkery that needs to happen.

I would watch that on pay per view (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE (Sendaz @ Sep 19 2013, 06:28 AM) *
I would watch that on pay per view (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

50 nuyen says someone baited the thing there and set up camera drones specifically to capture the footage and sell it on PPV.

It reminds me of that traveler game where I loaned those PGMPs to the warring TL1 tribes...
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 18 2013, 06:32 PM) *
It reminds me of that traveler game where I loaned those PGMPs to the warring TL1 tribes...


I hope you were recording those exchanges from orbit! Bwhahahahaaaah!
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Sep 19 2013, 06:36 AM) *
I hope you were recording those exchanges from orbit! Bwhahahahaaaah!

Of course. I made a TON on PPV and am now wanted in about 5 systems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Sep 18 2013, 03:55 PM) *
TMs are sane?


Well..... yeah, probably not... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Sep 18 2013, 06:37 PM) *
Of course. I made a TON on PPV and am now wanted in about 5 systems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Only wanted, and only in about five?

You haven't hit the big time until you've been tried and found guilty in absentia and sentenced to death in at least a dozen.

Still, it's a worthy start! Keep at it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Sep 18 2013, 04:53 PM) *
Only wanted, and only in about five?

You haven't hit the big time until you've been tried and found guilty in absentia and sentenced to death in at least a dozen.

Still, it's a worthy start! Keep at it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yeah... But can you actually name the guy with the Death Sentence in 12 Systems? And really, in the end, he was just an Architect slumming in the bars of Mos Eisley with his friend.
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post Sep 18 2013, 10:59 PM
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Well there was the time we stole nukes from a red zone interdiction planet...
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post Sep 18 2013, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Sep 18 2013, 05:26 PM) *
Juggernaut rummaging around Redmond Barrens, going unnoticed until some pissed-off trog heavy shoots it with a Panther XXL to make it stop eating his bike, then takes off like a jackrabbit, kiting the thing into tourist town and straight through a Humanis chapterhouse, letting it go to town before Knight Errant can actually break out the heavy attack choppers to put it down for good?

That's the kind of pink mohawkery that needs to happen.

They also need this as a scenario in Shadowrun Returns as it's own special mission, maybe even let you hotwire a tank at the end to take it on.
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post Sep 18 2013, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 18 2013, 06:55 PM) *
Yeah... But can you actually name the guy with the Death Sentence in 12 Systems? And really, in the end, he was just an Architect slumming in the bars of Mos Eisley with his friend.


Panda Baba.

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Well there was the time we stole nukes from a red zone interdiction planet...


That sounds like a good story, too.
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post Sep 18 2013, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Sep 19 2013, 07:01 AM) *
That sounds like a good story, too.

We ran into Daleks. Yes, that really happened. And it was awesome.
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post Sep 18 2013, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685 @ Sep 18 2013, 05:01 PM) *
Panda Baba.


Dr. Evazan was the one who actually said the quote... Pando Baba just grunted and howled. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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