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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 ![]() |
Ever since I saw the dock worker in Sprawl Sites with muscle replacement, I've been wondering: What are the other normal-life applications of cyberware? Lots of jobs can be helped with strength and there's mention of augmenting athletes. Blood filters for anyone in the medical field. Matrixware is obvious.
What suggestions do you guys have for 'normal, everyday' people in the sixth world who may have cybernetics? Keep in mind what the stuff costs. |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 ![]() |
Datajacks are pretty common among those who can aford them. Chipjacks and lingasofts are ultra-important to corpers who need multiple languages. Chipjacks in general are useful to anyone in a science field for the knowsoft capacity...
The majority of real life stuff is going to be legal and cheap. |
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Decker on the Threshold ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 ![]() |
I imagine plastic bone replacement would be common with people who have osteoporosis.People doing QC work at factories might want to get a gas spectrometer installed, so they can do analysis more quickly and be more mobile about it. Other than that... well, most of this stuff reads like military hardware. It's hard to figure out what you'd use in "normal" life; most of it's too expensive to have casually implanted.
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Chicago Survivor ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 ![]() |
Datajack and datajack mod for Metro buses (if they aren't in a matrix controlled drone network already)
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Decker on the Threshold ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 ![]() |
Ooh, I just thought of one: communications! How many teenagers are going to begging Mommy and Daddy for a headware telephone? :D
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 ![]() |
It's tough to say.
With the costs of cyberware, there's no way it would be as common as it should be in the setting (either flavorfully or as demonstrated in stat blocks). A datajack, costing only 1,000 nuyen, is close to the equivalence of most people's entire month's paycheck. And that's about as cheap as implants go. For instance, there's no way a dock worker would have reasonably have Muscle Replacement (even at rating 1, that's more than a year's pay) unless he was something more than a mere dock worker, especially since the benefits aren't really that helpful. It would be cheaper to hire orks or trolls for the job. |
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Chicago Survivor ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 ![]() |
howabout mommy and daddy implanting the kids with tracking devices?
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 26-March 03 Member No.: 4,335 ![]() |
I saw an old character who picked up all his cyber before ever considering running:
Titanium bone lacing, dermal plating, datajack, image link, knowsoft link. He was a stuntman employed by a Fuchi entertainment subsidiary. Lost his job due to an 'accident' on set during the Fuchi implosion. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-March 04 From: The Grizzly Grunion, in a VIP room. Member No.: 6,191 ![]() |
Or cortex bombs for those unruly, misbehaving children.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,548 ![]() |
^Hell, they're already doing that nowadays. Considering how cheap and "useful" that'd be, it'd happen all the time. I don't even think it'd cause essence loss, it's just a little chip under your skin.
Edit: Hee hee hee...that was meant for the tracking device post, not the cortex bomb...heh. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 693 Joined: 26-March 03 Member No.: 4,335 ![]() |
Lime, I imagine that a lot of folks in the SRun universe are in debt way over their heads. The Corps like it that way. Although I, in my games, halved the cost of basic cyberlimbs to encourage their use more.
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Decker on the Threshold ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 ![]() |
Oh no way. The full-time Day Job Flaw (40hr/wk), which I presume is meant to simulate a blue-collar, pretty craptaculous full-time job, pays 5,000 :nuyen: per month. I'd expect most corp workers to get far more than that, maybe more than twice as much. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,183 ![]() |
I know the post was talking about cyberware, but I know I would get a Mnemonic Enhancer, and so would many people in a software development field. With the constant need to update knowledge, it would provide a real edge.
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Decker on the Threshold ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 ![]() |
Amen to that! I think everone could use that particular bit of 'ware.
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 ![]() |
What accountant would be without the Math SPU? Old folks would likely go in for enhanced articulation a lot, as well. Firefighters would likely go in for the breathing cyber, eye protectors (or nict membranes), and the like. Cops obviously use headware radios. Low rating VCRs would probably be used by construction equipment controlers and HAZMAT teams as well as anyone piloting an expensive vehicle (airplanes, helos, etc).
The list goes on and on... On balance, most civilians wouldn't have more than about 1 point worth of cyber, at most. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 ![]() |
Honestly, the lower end stuff should be much cheaper. Lower level of muscle replacement, datajacks, headphones, headradios, etc should be easily be 1/4 the cost, given how prevalent it's supposed to be.
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,616 Joined: 15-March 04 Member No.: 6,158 ![]() |
If the prices were more realistic, I'd be inclined to agree that they would be common. But as set up so as to be "balanced" for the Shadowrunner character creation process, it's largely a joke. But if you're just interested in what types of implants certain "real" people would be interested in...
Anorexic/Bolemic-Likely Women: Dietware, Clean Metabolism Clubbers & Sex Addicts: (Cultured) Tailored Pheromones, Scent Glands, Sensitive Skin Gun Nuts: Smartlink Students, Scientists, and Discovery/History Channel Junkies: Mnemonic Enhancers, Cerebral Boosters, Math SPUs, Chipjacks, Datajacks and Image Links, and Sleep Regulators Chemists: Chemical Analyzer & Gas Spectrometer, Olfactory Boosters, Microscopic Vision Old People: Enhanced Articulation, Muscle Toner, Muscle Augmentation, Sleep Regulator, Synthacardium, Pain Editor Diabetes Patients: Chemical Gland: Insulin or Auto-Injector Secretaries: Datajack and Image Link, Knowsoft Link, Transducers etc. Bioware is going to be way more popular than cyberware, at least as described. |
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Chicago Survivor ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 ![]() |
Also, chipjacks for anyone who might need to reference stodgy, rarely changing information, like coding, foresic data sets, medical texts, etc.
Also, in one game I cut the costs of the eye camera and opticam in half, essence and price. the game was designed at a time when digital cameras were hella-expensive or non-existent. I feel that .2 essence cost for a digital still camera is reasonable. where .4 is just ludacris. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 26-April 04 Member No.: 6,284 ![]() |
I have a charictor who has permits for all his cyberware - even the wierd stuff like the Smartlink and wired reflexes. He claims (through his friend at the permits office) that they're for paintball.
I can see people who take their hobies seriously doing stuff like that. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 ![]() |
Does he have a permit for a LMG and a few belts of capsule (paint) rounds?
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 20-January 03 Member No.: 3,936 ![]() |
Ummm, my books are packed up and heading home right now so I can't check, but isn't medium lifestyle 10k a month? I'm assuming that that's the starting salary for a college grad (or about average). Figure in a promotion a time or two before the kids are that old, and sure its not like getitng the latest gaming console, but I could see it as a birthday or chirstmas gift early in HS. Looking at it, there's a good deal of cyber and bio ware i wouldn't be surprised to see commonly in kids, esp if their parents are wage slaves.
THis could be a stretch - how much is this anyway? |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,548 ![]() |
5,000 a month for medium.
5,000 a month for 40 hr/wk day job. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 ![]() |
Muscle replacement is 20,000¥ per level. A dockworker can make that in a year. If I were a dockworker, I'd just head to a fucking gym. This is why the prices are absolutely crazy. Even a simple datajack is way to pricy for your average person.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 27-January 04 Member No.: 6,025 ![]() |
Don't forget that all of this cyber is available used.
" Yes sir this is a real good piece. Only has 10,000 hrs on it and the guy who gave us the trade-in took good care of it. But I'd stay home on days when the barometer is dropping you know. Well why don't we go in the back sign some datawork and you'll have a new cyber skull in no time" :cyber: |
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Decker on the Threshold ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 ![]() |
It's no worse than a cheap-O car. In fact it's far less than a car today, taking inflation into account; remember that 5,000 :nuyen:/month is 60,000 per year; muscle replacement is one-third of that. What's a third of a dockworker or Stuffer Shack cashier's salary these days? Is it enough for a car?
It's those VCRs that are really expensive, or Wired Reflexes. Ugh, or Skillwires, yeesh! I'd imagine that anything like this would be paid for by the corp you work for, a sort of "Employee Enrichment Program" that you have to sign a binding contract for. |
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