Stupid Plans Options

[mister__joshua]

So in our game last night, while planning how we were going to do go about our current run, I made the obligatory stupid joke suggestion. This usually involves parachuting and nets. This time it involves heavy artillery and a 500 year old battle strategy. But on this occasion everyone loved it, and now we're going ahead with it. It's going to be ridiculous mayhem and probably result in multiple runner deaths.

The job is to take out a hacker/rigger who's turned on our employer (and has always been one step ahead). He's now hiding out in a motor home at an executive trailer park. Our plan? We're going to rent our own motor home and broadside him, old-skool naval warfare stylie. A grenade launcher and autocannon at the ready, and a modified wall on the van and we're ready to go. I am NOT confident of success.


This must happen to other people though. What's the stupidest plan you've still gone ahead with?

[FuelDrop]

Everything my group has ever come up with. No exceptions.

[binarywraith]

The stupidest plan I've ever had the privilege of seeing go off was my players storming a novacoke lab in the Barrens, and deciding to summon a spirit of the air to come with.

Things got really fun when a few million nuyen worth of drugs got turned into a cocaine-laced tornado inside a warehouse.... and that was on the -plan-.

[Sendaz]

Things got really fun when a few million nuyen worth of drugs got turned into a cocaine-laced tornado inside a warehouse.... and that was on the -plan-.

So if you took the coke laced whirlwind out into the streets and it was attacked by all the junkies, how long would it take or them to snort up all of it's Force?

*gets out chalk and board and starts scribbling down formulas*

[binarywraith]

It got worse. They flew it through Toruistville.

[Sendaz]

They probably thought it was part of the Tour. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

They still sing about it I hear.....


Frosty the Blow Storm

Was a jolly hyped up soul

With a crack/pot pipe, a broken nose and two eyes made of novacoke.

Frosty the Blow Storm

Was a street legend they say.

He was made of blow, and all street punks know blow is what you use to play.

[CanRay]

My group made use of "The Bus" once.

Once.

[Jack VII]

They probably thought it was part of the Tour. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

They still sing about it I hear.....


Frosty the Blow Storm

Was a jolly hyped up soul

With a crack/pot pipe, a broken nose and two eyes made of novacoke.

Frosty the Blow Storm

Was a street legend they say.

He was made of blow, and all street punks know blow is what you use to play.

There must have been some magic in the white stuff of which he was composed

For crazy drek broke out all around after it went right on up their nose.

Ohhhhh...

[Sendaz]

My group made use of "The Bus" once.

Once.

Like a city bus?

or something else?

Sorry if I do not get the reference if there is one, please expand upon this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Tanegar]

So in our game last night, while planning how we were going to do go about our current run, I made the obligatory stupid joke suggestion. This usually involves parachuting and nets. This time it involves heavy artillery and a 500 year old battle strategy. But on this occasion everyone loved it, and now we're going ahead with it. It's going to be ridiculous mayhem and probably result in multiple runner deaths.

The job is to take out a hacker/rigger who's turned on our employer (and has always been one step ahead). He's now hiding out in a motor home at an executive trailer park. Our plan? We're going to rent our own motor home and broadside him, old-skool naval warfare stylie. A grenade launcher and autocannon at the ready, and a modified wall on the van and we're ready to go. I am NOT confident of success.


This must happen to other people though. What's the stupidest plan you've still gone ahead with?

Forgive me, but I'm not seeing the stupid part. It's unorthodox, to be sure, but as long as he doesn't see you coming (I'm assuming the "modified wall" mean camouflaging the gun ports), it should work.

[Epicedion]

Forgive me, but I'm not seeing the stupid part. It's unorthodox, to be sure, but as long as he doesn't see you coming (I'm assuming the "modified wall" mean camouflaging the gun ports), it should work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship

[grid.samurai]

Forgive me, but I'm not seeing the stupid part. It's unorthodox, to be sure, but as long as he doesn't see you coming (I'm assuming the "modified wall" mean camouflaging the gun ports), it should work.

Well, if it's an executive park, then one problem they're going to have is driving an extremely slow vehicle with extremely poor handling, weighted down with a reinforced wall and armaments into a secure area. Seems like it'd be easier to call in a drone strike instead of taking the Winnebago in there. Perhaps not as much stupid as just overly complicated with a higher risk of failure/death?

Wait, do you guys have a rigger? If not, sub in a spirit strike? Either way, runners aren't putting their lives directly on the line..

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

They probably thought it was part of the Tour. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

They still sing about it I hear.....


Frosty the Blow Storm

Was a jolly hyped up soul

With a crack/pot pipe, a broken nose and two eyes made of novacoke.

Frosty the Blow Storm

Was a street legend they say.

He was made of blow, and all street punks know blow is what you use to play.

*Clap, Clap, Clap* True Artistry, Sendaz. Awesome... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[ShadowDragon8685]

So in our game last night, while planning how we were going to do go about our current run, I made the obligatory stupid joke suggestion. This usually involves parachuting and nets. This time it involves heavy artillery and a 500 year old battle strategy. But on this occasion everyone loved it, and now we're going ahead with it. It's going to be ridiculous mayhem and probably result in multiple runner deaths.

The job is to take out a hacker/rigger who's turned on our employer (and has always been one step ahead). He's now hiding out in a motor home at an executive trailer park. Our plan? We're going to rent our own motor home and broadside him, old-skool naval warfare stylie. A grenade launcher and autocannon at the ready, and a modified wall on the van and we're ready to go. I am NOT confident of success.

This one might actually work, but it would likely be simpler to just call in a drone/spirit strike.

Like a city bus? Or something else?

Sorry if I do not get the reference if there is one, please expand upon this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

CanRay's The Bus is a city bus which has been modified into a fuel-air explosive. He worked out the dimensions of the bus and the optimal fuel/oxygen mixture (IIRC the bus had an enviroseal 2 to make sure it could achieve a perfect fuel/oxygen ratio.) When readied, The Bus would immediately mix its fuel and oxygen, then detonate a shitload of C-12 as the detonating charge for the FAE mixture.

The result is an entirely leveled city block.

[FuelDrop]

This one might actually work, but it would likely be simpler to just call in a drone/spirit strike.




CanRay's The Bus is a city bus which has been modified into a fuel-air explosive. He worked out the dimensions of the bus and the optimal fuel/oxygen mixture (IIRC the bus had an enviroseal 2 to make sure it could achieve a perfect fuel/oxygen ratio.) When readied, The Bus would immediately mix its fuel and oxygen, then detonate a shitload of C-12 as the detonating charge for the FAE mixture.

The result is an entirely leveled city block.

You do realize it'd be far easier and almost as effective to just load up with several thousand kilograms of AMFO, right? With the chemistry skill, a shop and a lot of time, it's not even really that expensive.

[ShadowDragon8685]

You do realize it'd be far easier and almost as effective to just load up with several thousand kilograms of AMFO, right? With the chemistry skill, a shop and a lot of time, it's not even really that expensive.

Yes, and you'll have the UCAS FBI, Lone Star, Knight Errant, the Tir Ghosts, whatever law enforcement the NANs have, all beating a path to your door if you try to buy the stuff to make ANFO. Your only hope is that they get distracted enough shooting at one another for you to slip out in the chaos.

Whereas fuel-air mixtures are much simpler, generally necessitating only one component, and even if the heat is on high, it's not like they can track every motherfragger buying gasoline.

[FuelDrop]

Yes, and you'll have the UCAS FBI, Lone Star, Knight Errant, the Tir Ghosts, whatever law enforcement the NANs have, all beating a path to your door if you try to buy the stuff to make ANFO. Your only hope is that they get distracted enough shooting at one another for you to slip out in the chaos.

Whereas fuel-air mixtures are much simpler, generally necessitating only one component, and even if the heat is on high, it's not like they can track every motherfragger buying gasoline.

Actually, since most cars in the 6th world appear to be electronic, gasoline purchases are going to be noticeably rarer than today.
They can probably eliminate most of the vintage car collectors fairly quickly.
That narrows down the field a lot.

[CanRay]

Like a city bus?

or something else?

Sorry if I do not get the reference if there is one, please expand upon this. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Sorry, I tell the story a lot here.

My group had a Irish Republican Army in Exile contact who made bombs "as a hobby" (he was actually a Fixer for his "Day Job".). The group should really have known that "his bus" that he always referenced was bad news when the rest of the IRAiE members were scared of it. That's right, the Irish Terrorists were scared of a bomb.

So, they decided to use it as a distraction by detonating it near Council Island in Seattle. It was only after the IRAiE Fixer happily told them it was on-the-way via autopilot that he informed them that it was a city bus that he converted into an air-sealed Improvised Fuel-Air Explosive Bomb.

Luckily, it was "disarmed" by some very handy work by a Lone Star officer with a shotgun when he noticed the driver was a blow-up doll wearing a hat.

"I did some calculations. We'd have taken out half of downtown Seattle with that bus." was how one of my players put it a few weeks later.

[FuelDrop]

Sorry, I tell the story a lot here.

My group had a Irish Republican Army in Exile contact who made bombs "as a hobby" (he was actually a Fixer for his "Day Job".). The group should really have known that "his bus" that he always referenced was bad news when the rest of the IRAiE members were scared of it. That's right, the Irish Terrorists were scared of a bomb.

So, they decided to use it as a distraction by detonating it near Council Island in Seattle. It was only after the IRAiE Fixer happily told them it was on-the-way via autopilot that he informed them that it was a city bus that he converted into an air-sealed Improvised Fuel-Air Explosive Bomb.

Luckily, it was "disarmed" by some very handy work by a Lone Star officer with a shotgun when he noticed the driver was a blow-up doll wearing a hat.

"I did some calculations. We'd have taken out half of downtown Seattle with that bus." was how one of my players put it a few weeks later.

Ah yes, the IRA in exile. I'm not 100% up on the politics so I could be dead wrong, but don't they hate elves? (Unlike most racial Jihads these guys are actually justified, what with the elves kicking them out of their country and all. Maybe a bit indiscriminate, but at least they actually have a legit complaint against them.)

In other words, these are EXACTLY the kind of people who're responsible enough to own this kind of bomb (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

[Rad]

Define "stupid"?

There was our team's plan to rob a bank owned by Lowfwyr that involved (among other things) dosing the entire Hong Kong business district with warp and dropping drones onto the roofs of adjacent buildings.

Worked like a charm, though we got ripped off and set up by the Johnson afterwards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[FuelDrop]

Define "stupid"?

There was our team's plan to rob a bank owned by Lowfwyr that involved (among other things) dosing the entire Hong Kong business district with warp and dropping drones onto the roofs of adjacent buildings.

Worked like a charm, though we got ripped off and set up by the Johnson afterwards. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

...
The Johnson decided that it would be a good idea to piss off a bunch of professional criminals who had just proven that they were willing to risk the wrath of the most powerful great dragon in the world (He has a megacorp. that makes him the most powerful GD, reguardless of whether or not there's someone with better magic), and consider turning an entire district of a crowded metropolis into a maelstrom of chaos and the subsequent heat from every law enforcement agency in the city 'acceptable'.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have us a Darwin award. There was a stupid plan afoot here, but it wasn't the Players. This Johnson was dropped on his head as a baby or something.

[Stahlseele]

i stand by my point:
stupid plans that work are not stupid, good plans that don't work are stupid!

[ShadowDragon8685]

The Johnson decided that it would be a good idea to piss off a bunch of professional criminals who had just proven that they were willing to risk the wrath of the most powerful great dragon in the world (He has a megacorp. that makes him the most powerful GD, reguardless of whether or not there's someone with better magic), and consider turning an entire district of a crowded metropolis into a maelstrom of chaos and the subsequent heat from every law enforcement agency in the city 'acceptable'.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have us a Darwin award. There was a stupid plan afoot here, but it wasn't the Players. This Johnson was dropped on his head as a baby or something.

Yep. I hope their revenge was swift and brutal.

i stand by my point:
stupid plans that work are not stupid, good plans that don't work are stupid!

Stupid plans that work are not stupid, right up until the point when the double-crossed Runner team supermurders you in bed and steals your identity.

[CanRay]

Ah yes, the IRA in exile. I'm not 100% up on the politics so I could be dead wrong, but don't they hate elves? (Unlike most racial Jihads these guys are actually justified, what with the elves kicking them out of their country and all. Maybe a bit indiscriminate, but at least they actually have a legit complaint against them.)

In other words, these are EXACTLY the kind of people who're responsible enough to own this kind of bomb (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) .

Yeah. They hate Elves. The Fixer is an Elf in the IRAiE, as well, which should tell you how tough a SOB he is. My group loved him as a contact. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

"When we heard that we needed a bomb for the job, your name was the first to come to mind." "Good ta hear, laddies." "Now, it's against the Tir..." "Ireland?" "No, the other Tir." "Bah, hate them too. We'll do it."

[Draco18s]

My group blew up a building, not once, but twice, by filling the basement with natural gas and then setting it on fire (once with spirits, once with C4).