Skinklinks, Or, understanding the rules of it |
Skinklinks, Or, understanding the rules of it |
Oct 20 2013, 07:23 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 23-September 12 Member No.: 56,131 |
So I've read and heard a fair bit about SR4, including that skinlinking things like weapons is really useful. But, what does it actually do? The entry for it in SR4A isn't terribly helpful, as it only give a general description of what skinlink does, but no real mechanics for it. So, would someone please tell me what skinlink does for me, as a player, in straightforward terms?
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Oct 20 2013, 07:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 666 Joined: 21-July 08 From: Syracuse, NY Member No.: 16,155 |
So I've read and heard a fair bit about SR4, including that skinlinking things like weapons is really useful. But, what does it actually do? The entry for it in SR4A isn't terribly helpful, as it only give a general description of what skinlink does, but no real mechanics for it. So, would someone please tell me what skinlink does for me, as a player, in straightforward terms? The way i use it in my table top game is essentially like being direct connected without the need for wires as long as the item stays on the person. |
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Oct 20 2013, 08:53 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
The way i use it in my table top game is essentially like being direct connected without the need for wires as long as the item stays on the person. This, basically. Skinlink is a way to network your devices together without the use of conventional wireless networking. Notable for being an absolute no-brainer for anyone even vaguely concerned about the security of their PAN (i.e., every shadowrunner ever), and also for being removed from SR5 so the devs could push their ridiculous EVREYTHINGS MSUT BE HACKABABLE!!!1ONE agenda. |
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Oct 20 2013, 09:35 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 23-September 12 Member No.: 56,131 |
So, setting up a skinlink on a smartgun will establish a 'wired' connection that is then harder to hack. Any real mechanics to this, or is it just 'you can't hack anything that isn't putting out a wireless signal'?
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Oct 20 2013, 09:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 651 Joined: 20-July 12 From: Arizona Member No.: 53,066 |
its basically about limiting the wireless to only your commlink, which was protected by the hacker.
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Oct 21 2013, 12:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 27-February 08 From: Pismo Beach, CA Member No.: 15,715 |
It makes a connection by running electrical signals over the surface of your skin. There's no radio signal for a decker to intercept, but any device with a skinlink that touches you effectively has a connection to the network.
For example: Sammy is going to a meet with a new Johnson. He doesn't want anyone to be able to hack his PAN, so he has all his electronics skinlinked. This works fine, until he shakes the Johnson's hand at the end of the meeting. Mr. Johnson also has a skinlinked PAN, and the physical contact forms a connection between the two networks. Johnson's decker (who's waiting back at the office but has a wireless connection to the Johnson's comlink) hacks into Sammy's PAN through the skinlink. |
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Oct 21 2013, 08:19 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
It makes a connection by running electrical signals over the surface of your skin. There's no radio signal for a decker to intercept, but any device with a skinlink that touches you effectively has a connection to the network. For example: Sammy is going to a meet with a new Johnson. He doesn't want anyone to be able to hack his PAN, so he has all his electronics skinlinked. This works fine, until he shakes the Johnson's hand at the end of the meeting. Mr. Johnson also has a skinlinked PAN, and the physical contact forms a connection between the two networks. Johnson's decker (who's waiting back at the office but has a wireless connection to the Johnson's comlink) hacks into Sammy's PAN through the skinlink. Couple of things. 1) Johnsons who make a habit of hacking the runners they're trying to hire have their very own retirement plan. It's called "two bullets in the back of the head and tossed in the canal." 2) The decker realizes a connection has been made, and hacks Sammy's PAN, all in the half-second (one-sixth of a combat round) they're shaking hands? |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:23 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 14-July 12 Member No.: 53,036 |
1) Johnsons who make a habit of hacking the runners they're trying to hire have their very own retirement plan. It's called "two bullets in the back of the head and tossed in the canal." Eh. Not all runners are capable of taking down all johnsons. Some just chew up teams that try, and don't even bother spitting out the bones. And then there are dragons. |
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Oct 21 2013, 10:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 821 Joined: 4-December 09 Member No.: 17,940 |
2) The decker realizes a connection has been made, and hacks Sammy's PAN, all in the half-second (one-sixth of a combat round) they're shaking hands? I agree on that - you'd need to plant something like a souped-up RFID tag during the handshake to create an access point - though having a new device trying to connect through the skinlink should raise all kind of alarm bells into an halfway decently programmed comlink - unlike a Wireless attempt where the hack can be hidden in the 'background noise' of regular matrix signals. |
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Oct 21 2013, 02:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 651 Joined: 20-July 12 From: Arizona Member No.: 53,066 |
not to mention your team hacker should be all over that counterhacking the Johnson's Hacker
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Oct 21 2013, 04:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: 24-May 13 From: Chicago Member No.: 103,325 |
...but if there's an arm wrestling contest between two sams in a bar, that's plenty of time to hack.
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Oct 21 2013, 05:37 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,962 Joined: 27-February 13 Member No.: 76,875 |
Of course, the Johnson could simply have a worm set up to hack in instead...
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Oct 21 2013, 05:50 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
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Oct 21 2013, 08:09 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
Eh. Not all runners are capable of taking down all johnsons. Some just chew up teams that try, and don't even bother spitting out the bones. And then there are dragons. Johnsons are not dragons. Johnsons aren't even corps. The Johnson is the schlub, way down the totem pole, who can hire a gang of professional criminals without it being immediately traced back to the corp he works for. He's the cutout: once the job is over, whether successful or failed, he vanishes back into the ranks and another one takes his place. If the run goes sufficiently pear-shaped, his own company kills him to maintain deniability. Johnsons, by definition, are not badass. They are just as expendable as the runners they hire. If a guy is badass enough to kill a team of runners, he is too badass to be a Johnson. Moreover, once word gets around (and it will get around; runners are a very small community, and like every small community, gossip is life) that Johnson likes to hack your PAN during the meet, it will not be difficult to find someone both willing and able to grant him a permanent retirement, as a message that professional felons don't appreciate being dicked around. Being betrayed at the end of the job is one thing. Every runner expects that to happen at some point. Having the Johnson treat you like a clueless, spineless little bitch? Like I said: shot twice in the back of the head and dumped in the canal. |
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Oct 21 2013, 11:30 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 14-July 12 Member No.: 53,036 |
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Oct 21 2013, 11:43 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
Never heard of the berk.
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Oct 21 2013, 11:50 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Never heard of the berk. Hans Brackhaus. Age : Unknown. Height : Varies. Weight : Varies. Hair : Black or Gray. Eyes : Black, Gray, or Blue. Gender : Male. Metatype : Varies. Awakened : No. Hans Brackhaus might be one person, several people, a great dragon, or all of the above.The vital statistics and first line of the entry on Hans Brackhaus taken from Street Legends. And for those who'll argue that dragons are awakened, do remember that there's metamagic techniques that allow any awakened critter to hide the fact that they are awakened in the first place. |
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Oct 21 2013, 11:56 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
I stand by my statement. First, you can't say the man's a dragon when canonically it's up in the air; and second, the fact that one writer decided it would be SO COOL to have a dragon hiring runners in the flesh doesn't mean the guy hiring your group is a dragon. There are exceptions to every rule, but that doesn't invalidate the rule. Johnsons, as a rule, are not movers and shakers. They are wageslaves who are low enough on the totem pole to be completely invisible to anyone above street level. That is what allows them to work as Johnsons. Their value lies in their anonymity and expendability.
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Oct 22 2013, 12:25 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 14-July 12 Member No.: 53,036 |
I stand by my statement. And I stand by mine. Absolutes are pointless. Even appending "most" to your statement strikes me as overly narrow, and I wouldn't put faith in it without a specific and official quote along the lines of "99% of Mr Johnsons are low level wageslaves a step away from being shot to keep the corp looking clean." |
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Oct 22 2013, 01:17 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
Who the hell else would they be? What, you think Damien Knight spends the copious free time he has from running Ares slumming it in the Barrens, personally handing out assignments to people about whose existence, let alone jobs, he isn't supposed to know?
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Oct 22 2013, 01:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 651 Joined: 20-July 12 From: Arizona Member No.: 53,066 |
Middle Management would be my best guess. People entrusted by the leaders to "get a resolution in play". The deniability you are looking for is that the Johnson does not contact runners directly, the Johnson calls a fixer who sets up a meeting between the Johnson & the runner's Face. This is often behind closed doors that are already checked to be safe. After the mission Premise is made, the contact between the runner team & the Johnson, should any contact be needed, is often through the mutual fixer.
My problem with saying its low level people. Low level corp wageslaves are not trusted enough to be able to stand toe to toe with a runner team & talk business, Runner's are famously trigger happy. Besides, when the Runner team starts asking for more money, a low level wageslave won;t have the authority to go above the amount he's told, Middle management can rationalize it as "slush fund" or something of the like more readily. |
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Oct 22 2013, 03:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 21-February 07 Member No.: 11,050 |
Middle Management would be my best guess. People entrusted by the leaders to "get a resolution in play". The deniability you are looking for is that the Johnson does not contact runners directly, the Johnson calls a fixer who sets up a meeting between the Johnson & the runner's Face. This is often behind closed doors that are already checked to be safe. After the mission Premise is made, the contact between the runner team & the Johnson, should any contact be needed, is often through the mutual fixer. My problem with saying its low level people. Low level corp wageslaves are not trusted enough to be able to stand toe to toe with a runner team & talk business, Runner's are famously trigger happy. Besides, when the Runner team starts asking for more money, a low level wageslave won;t have the authority to go above the amount he's told, Middle management can rationalize it as "slush fund" or something of the like more readily. I'll agree with this. Mr.Johnson isn't a top tier VIP but he's not a bottom rung wage-slave either. He somewhere in the middle high enough to be trusted with the dirty side of the Corps Business but still low enough that he can be replaced if needed. |
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Oct 22 2013, 03:07 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Or maybe higher. You know the line, sometimes "When you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself."
Would someone like Lofwyr or Damien Knight personally hire a bunch of street level runners? Odds are about as likely as your doss getting hit by a meteorite and it flushing itself down your toilet. And Dolonar, don't forget that "Mr. Johnson" might be withholding some nuyen for his own pocket. He might be given ¥50,000 to pay a team for a job, but only offers ¥35,000 instead. |
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Oct 22 2013, 04:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 651 Joined: 20-July 12 From: Arizona Member No.: 53,066 |
He might be...but I would figure the bosses would give him a lower limit, gotta keep that bottom line trimmed after all.
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Oct 22 2013, 04:43 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 85 Joined: 14-July 12 Member No.: 53,036 |
He might be...but I would figure the bosses would give him a lower limit, gotta keep that bottom line trimmed after all. Corporate Guide, p46, is a good source of info that relates to why the bottom line may not be properly trimmed, and how funding, assets, property or people may slip through cracks. This doesn't even have happen accidentally, if the right people are sly enough. |
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