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> Magic-proof suits!..., ....and the GMs who create them.
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post May 4 2004, 06:17 AM
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For example, if you break into a secure compound, and the guards have tinted faceplates on their Heavy Sec. Armour, are they immune to a well-placed Stunball? ... My GM seems to think they are, and I disagree.

If you can't convince him, just shell out a couple grand for your whole team to wear full suits of Form Fitting Body Armor so they can be immune to all of his magical threats. That might change his mind.
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post May 4 2004, 10:38 AM
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indeed. after all, full formfit comes with gloves, a mask, and cute little booties. failing that, just where ten shirts and ten pairs of pants. if they're unarmored, no penalty to Qui or CP!
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A Clockwork Lime
post May 4 2004, 03:31 PM
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Why not just wear ten sets of Form-Fitting Body Armor? No layering penalties there, either, but ungodly ballistic armor (22/0).
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post May 4 2004, 03:48 PM
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Shouldn't that be in the twinking thread? :P
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John Campbell
post May 4 2004, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime)
Why not just wear ten sets of Form-Fitting Body Armor? No layering penalties there, either, but ungodly ballistic armor (22/0).

6/1 armor isn't all that ungodly.
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A Clockwork Lime
post May 4 2004, 05:39 PM
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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post May 4 2004, 05:45 PM
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I suppose you could do runs in mirrored phone booths, set up on casters so they roll.
It also does a good job of concealing your Panther assault cannon too!.

The only problem is if someone wants to make a call from one of the roving phone booths.
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post May 5 2004, 06:27 AM
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You've got a Panther. How is that a problem?

Bystander Mook: Hurry up in there, I need to make a call.
[Runner opens door, points cannon]
BM: On second thought... take your time.

The only problem is when the rigger tricks hers out, and she gets pulled over by LoneStar for speeding.

Fortunately, I did manage to convince our GM with the paragraph Eyeless Blond quoted about 'relating' to the target. That seemed to jive with him.
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post May 5 2004, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE (John Campbell)
QUOTE (A Clockwork Lime @ May 4 2004, 11:31 AM)
Why not just wear ten sets of Form-Fitting Body Armor?  No layering penalties there, either, but ungodly ballistic armor (22/0).

6/1 armor isn't all that ungodly.

But 22/1 is. 4/1 for the first, unhalved layer, plus 9 more suits at 2/0 each. Of course, any sane GM'll obviously rule that you take the quickness penalties after the first suit.
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Austere Emancipa...
post May 5 2004, 06:35 AM
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And a large number of sane GMs will rule that you don't get bonuses beyond the second layer. Many, in fact, would say that is the intent of the rules. Certainly you can argue either interpretation is correct. But we don't want to go there, I presume.
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post May 5 2004, 08:37 AM
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I'll go there. The rules describe how to calculate the benefit of armor. Performing the described calculation with multiple sets of Form Fitting (4/1) armor layers results in (6/1) as John Campbell stated.
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post May 5 2004, 08:53 AM
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Go right ahead, then. I'm sure you won't mind if I don't join you. ;)
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