First Impression Quality & Social Tests?, 5th ed. |
First Impression Quality & Social Tests?, 5th ed. |
Feb 18 2014, 04:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
Hey guys,
Does the First Impression positive quality work for intimidation? The description specifically mentions Negotiation and Con, but I don't see why that wouldn't work on Leadership or Intimidation too. Thoughts? |
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Feb 18 2014, 05:07 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,893 Joined: 8-August 13 From: New Jersey , USA Member No.: 140,076 |
For me as a GM, I'm not sure that I would let it apply to Leadership or Intimidation.
The idea of First Impression is that you make a good one. I.e. people like you, or are willing to work with you, but it is about a positive personality trait. That isn't the same as being willing to follow you, or feel threatened by you. I mean, there might be a specific case where I could be convinced - but in general, I would say no. YMMV. |
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Feb 18 2014, 06:01 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: 25-July 07 Member No.: 12,360 |
For me as a GM, I'm not sure that I would let it apply to Leadership or Intimidation. The idea of First Impression is that you make a good one. I.e. people like you, or are willing to work with you, but it is about a positive personality trait. That isn't the same as being willing to follow you, or feel threatened by you. I mean, there might be a specific case where I could be convinced - but in general, I would say no. YMMV. I'm inclined to agree. I wouldn't be opposed to a house-rule to split it up, though. "Positive First Impression" X Karma "Intimidating First Impression" Y Karma "Force of Personality First Impression" X + Y Karma As it stands, "First Impression" is a really, really good quality for Face characters; almost mandatory. I'd prefer the system was such that there weren't some qualities that were *so* good you end up almost having to take them (Focused Concentration also comes to mind). 3rd Edition D&D had the same problem with the "Power Attack / Cleave" feats. -DrZ |
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Feb 18 2014, 07:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 352 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 18,916 |
I've always thought of First Impression as a strength or personality thing.
You can be convincing/striking/imposing without being particularly likeable. |
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Feb 19 2014, 05:18 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
If the description of the quality is about the same as 4th Edition (which it might be - a lot of things seem to have just been copypasted from 4th), then it gives a bonus to all social skill tests during a first meeting, where the character is trying to fit in. So intimidation or leadership might not apply as often as etiquette, but I could see intimidation being used to let a gang, or fellow prisoners at a detention facility, know that the "new guy" is not someone you want to mess with. Similarly, I could see leadership being used for a face trying to be the unofficial spokesperson at the meet with the Johnson, or a street samurai taking command of a crew of mercs for a full-on assault on a bug hive.
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