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post Mar 6 2014, 05:45 PM
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Now I had a heated debate with my wife/player over this concept being implemented and we were on the same page, so please keep it polite.
We all know that some things in game, where its the signiture pimped gun of the sammie, cyberdeck/nexus, foci or rigger captain vehicle have a shield of PLOTtainium - its a big thing when they go byebye.

Basically its the fine line of being harsh/tough to create difficultly and so fun for your PCs, so their players look you in the eye and say,
"That fragging (insert racial slur) is going to get the HARD GOODBYE!" Then spend every minute planing and plotting their revenge.

But not have the player/s stand up angrly and shout, "You f***ing D*** ref!!!! I QUIT! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/eek.gif)

The topic in question is moves like having the opporsition throw around spells like Demolish foci or cyberdeck at the PCs. Making the sharp shooters target the cyber deck or cyberware. The usual gentlemens agreement over high power rifles and sniper headshots being rudely revoked AGAINST the PC's.

For the sake of transparency, I believe that line depends on the trust between ref and player that this is going to a fun place. The character is a vehicle that takes the hits doing what the (hopefully sane) player does not. Like getting shot or worse. That line will vary from game to game but like the BBB 3rd ed says, should sweat, bleed and strive for every point of karma earned.

So would you demolish the PC foci or guns/deck mid run for a intense play game?
And why?
And mechanically/fairly- how?
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- Pendaric   A matter of being harsh but fair or a D**k ref :vegm:   Mar 6 2014, 05:45 PM
- - binarywraith   Not right out of the gate, but if the players are ...   Mar 6 2014, 06:07 PM
- - Sendaz   Well a lot would depend on the situation. Breakin...   Mar 6 2014, 06:25 PM
- - Stahlseele   I am firmly against this, as this usually hits the...   Mar 6 2014, 06:57 PM
|- - Xystophoroi   QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 6 2014, 06:57 PM)...   Mar 6 2014, 08:31 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Xystophoroi @ Mar 6 2014, 01:31 PM...   Mar 6 2014, 08:42 PM
- - Jaid   yeah, i'd need to hear a legitimate reason why...   Mar 6 2014, 08:04 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 6 2014, 01:04 PM) yeah,...   Mar 6 2014, 08:38 PM
|- - Smash   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 7 2014, 07:04 AM) so, i...   Mar 7 2014, 01:40 AM
- - MrGlee   Why would anyone shoot a cyberdeck? They are like...   Mar 6 2014, 08:26 PM
- - tasti man LH   The route I prefer taking is to put them in a situ...   Mar 6 2014, 08:53 PM
- - FuelDrop   So here's a quick thought for people to look a...   Mar 6 2014, 09:51 PM
- - Pendaric   Hence my comment on PLOTtinum. In one case a frien...   Mar 6 2014, 10:15 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Mar 6 2014, 06:15 PM) I...   Mar 6 2014, 10:32 PM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Mar 7 2014, 06:15 AM) T...   Mar 6 2014, 10:38 PM
- - MrGlee   Foci addiction is a huge and terrifying thing in S...   Mar 6 2014, 10:49 PM
- - Wounded Ronin   Actually I think realistically SR should have more...   Mar 6 2014, 10:59 PM
|- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Mar 6 2014, 06:59 ...   Mar 6 2014, 11:07 PM
||- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 7 2014, 07:07 AM) I c...   Mar 6 2014, 11:13 PM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Mar 6 2014, 05:59 ...   Mar 7 2014, 02:16 AM
|- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 6 2014, 10:16 PM) that ...   Mar 7 2014, 05:54 AM
- - thorya   It sounds like you've got some reason to destr...   Mar 6 2014, 11:01 PM
- - FuelDrop   Have you considered forcing Mr Christmas Tree to w...   Mar 6 2014, 11:06 PM
- - FuelDrop   Also, one of the most common pieces of gear destro...   Mar 6 2014, 11:09 PM
- - psychophipps   Man, you guys are fast and loose. My groups are al...   Mar 7 2014, 02:27 AM
- - FuelDrop   Yeah. How is the Decker going to contribute on the...   Mar 7 2014, 02:30 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 6 2014, 07:30 PM) Y...   Mar 7 2014, 03:03 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 7 2014, 09...   Mar 7 2014, 06:54 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (binarywraith @ Mar 7 2014, 11:54 A...   Mar 7 2014, 07:02 PM
- - DMiller   We've had characters lose gear during a run. S...   Mar 7 2014, 02:38 AM
- - Jaid   5th edition matrix is definitely different. it...   Mar 7 2014, 07:39 AM
|- - Rubic   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 7 2014, 02:39 AM) as to...   Mar 7 2014, 07:44 AM
|- - Jaid   QUOTE (Rubic @ Mar 7 2014, 02:44 AM) Tech...   Mar 7 2014, 09:14 AM
- - Xystophoroi   The other issue is that you don't want the med...   Mar 7 2014, 07:48 AM
- - Teulisch   I had an issue with this, in one game i ran. The m...   Mar 7 2014, 05:16 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Heh... That is entertaining. My Cyberlogician got...   Mar 7 2014, 05:32 PM
- - Jaid   provided you don't use the screwed up payout s...   Mar 7 2014, 08:47 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 7 2014, 01:47 PM) provi...   Mar 7 2014, 08:51 PM
||- - Smash   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 8 2014, 07...   Mar 7 2014, 10:50 PM
|- - binarywraith   QUOTE (Jaid @ Mar 7 2014, 02:47 PM) provi...   Mar 7 2014, 09:10 PM
- - Daier Mune   seeing as how gear-based SR is, I'd consider m...   Mar 7 2014, 10:38 PM
- - Umidori   I think messing with a PCs gear is inherently dang...   Mar 8 2014, 01:28 AM
- - tasti man LH   Heheh, well conversely... I did get evil thought...   Mar 8 2014, 02:01 AM
|- - FuelDrop   QUOTE (tasti man LH @ Mar 8 2014, 10:01 A...   Mar 8 2014, 02:32 AM
|- - psychophipps   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 7 2014, 08:32 PM) ...   Mar 8 2014, 03:01 AM
|- - Wounded Ronin   QUOTE (psychophipps @ Mar 7 2014, 11:01 P...   Mar 8 2014, 11:15 PM
- - Glyph   I think Wounded Ronin's approach would be the ...   Mar 8 2014, 05:05 AM
|- - Pendaric   QUOTE (Glyph @ Mar 8 2014, 01:05 AM) I th...   Mar 8 2014, 02:04 PM
|- - Rubic   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Mar 8 2014, 09:04 AM) I...   Mar 8 2014, 04:54 PM
|- - Pendaric   QUOTE (Rubic @ Mar 8 2014, 12:54 PM) This...   Mar 9 2014, 04:28 PM
|- - Rubic   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Mar 9 2014, 12:28 PM) B...   Mar 9 2014, 07:23 PM
- - FuelDrop   you know, rules for cobbling together a DIY deck o...   Mar 8 2014, 06:53 AM
|- - tasti man LH   QUOTE (FuelDrop @ Mar 7 2014, 10:53 PM) y...   Mar 8 2014, 07:09 AM
- - Shortstraw   My players tend to steal everything in sight so th...   Mar 8 2014, 07:22 AM
- - FuelDrop   We tend to run under the assumption that it can, b...   Mar 9 2014, 02:41 AM
- - Kyrel   QUOTE (Pendaric @ Mar 6 2014, 06:45 PM) N...   Mar 9 2014, 05:54 PM
|- - Warlordtheft   QUOTE (Kyrel @ Mar 9 2014, 01:54 PM) Basi...   Mar 10 2014, 08:11 PM
- - FuelDrop   Gear casualties from last session: Everything Dark...   Mar 10 2014, 12:46 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   Yeah... Our combat Mage lost about 4 or 5 Foci a f...   Mar 10 2014, 01:39 PM
- - Sendaz   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Mar 10 2014, 09...   Mar 10 2014, 09:59 PM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Sendaz @ Mar 10 2014, 03:59 PM) We...   Mar 10 2014, 10:06 PM


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