What build do you have that can beat this scenario? [4e] Options

[Twizzler]

What build do you have in mind that can succeed in starting by himself/herself in the middle of an Ares facility after being made, with no guns, and HTR teams approaching? [Shadowrun fourth edition, all sourcebooks]

My GM joked about giving me this punishment and thinks I won't be able to accomplish it, seeing as how I am completely new to Shadowrun, and relatively new to tabletops in general (but having so much fun). So when I found this awesome forum, which has already been able to explain so much already with a quick search here and there, I thought "What a great place to ask!"

In all, I would really like to take my GM up on his offer, I think it would be funny if I were able to outsmart him (by letting you guys outsmart him, admittedly).

Thanks in advance!

P.S Oh and I asked him if I can have magic and drones, he said yes. So that's a start!

[toturi]

What build do you have in mind that can succeed in starting by himself/herself in the middle of an Ares facility after being made, with no guns, and HTR teams approaching? [Shadowrun fourth edition, all sourcebooks]

My GM joked about giving me this punishment and thinks I won't be able to accomplish it, seeing as how I am completely new to Shadowrun, and relatively new to tabletops in general (but having so much fun). So when I found this awesome forum, which has already been able to explain so much already with a quick search here and there, I thought "What a great place to ask!"

In all, I would really like to take my GM up on his offer, I think it would be funny if I were able to outsmart him (by letting you guys outsmart him, admittedly).

Thanks in advance!

P.S Oh and I asked him if I can have magic and drones, he said yes. So that's a start!

Divination. You have already foreseen this situation. You are in full control of the Ares facility and its armaments. The HTR thinks they are coming to rescue you.

[Twizzler]

Divination. You have already foreseen this situation. You are in full control of the Ares facility and its armaments. The HTR thinks they are coming to rescue you.

TIL you can use Divination in Shadowrun. Huh.

That'll throw my GM for a loop.

[Sternenwind]

How much karma do we have?
Is there a background count in this facility?
Can you burn Edge, for “Hand of God”?


The easy way would be to create a spirit character and wait for the HTR team to drop on you, at the last moment you let your spirit go back in his nativ metaplane.
Something similar could work with a KI. Just max the KI for infiltration and exploit.

And if you get enough karma, you always can build a melee mystic adept with spirit pact, possession tradition and canalization.

[Happy Trees]

There is no starting build that will do what you're asking, unless the GM is a moron, or allows you to start accelerated. Sure, you could do it with a small army of drones, or a handful of powerful spirits, or... but you simply won't be powerful enough with a standard starting character (or most higher characters, really).

[Twizzler]

How much karma do we have?
Is there a background count in this facility?
Can you burn Edge, for “Hand of God”?

Sorry, forgot to say that we start with 500 BP for characters. As for background count, I'm gonna go ahead and say no. As in magic will work as normal (which is a background count of what? One?).

Edge? I don't think so, its supposed to be my punishment, so max edge for your character, and no "Hand of God" unfortunately.

[FuelDrop]

mage with shapechange. Turn into a roach or something and get out as a bug. Real simple. Buff up your stealth skill while you're at it and you should be fine.

[BlackJaw]

If the object is to get out a tough spot, play a Free Spirit (Runners Companion + Street Grimoire I think?).

You can drop into the astral metaplanes and just vanish from the earth, and appear safely somewhere else. It's basically the nearest thing to teleporting in Shadowrun.

The typical trouble with being a Free Spirit is getting into a place covered in magical wards, but if the described scenario starts with you already there... well that's an easy out for a Free Spirit.

[psychophipps]

Well, with 250 points in base stats and 250 more to toss around, you could make one hell of an adept. The secret in any "caged animal" scenario like this is mobility. You need to keep the teams roving around because if they fix your position, they can squish you like a bug in a slowly tightening fist. You need to be able to hit them fast, get right into the middle of those sons a bitches so they can't just open up on your character without running the risk of chopping down their homies, and scoot when it suits the situation. You give them range in tight corridors and they'll chew you into hamburger.

To be honest, if my earlier Parkour Adept had an extra 50 points in stats and 50 points in extra goodies, I could make him an absolute and complete Death Machine™.

And I would nonchalantly ask the GM, "So if the normal cap at 400 points for skill groups is 4, does this mean I can have skill groups at 5 with this guy since he's 500 points?"

[Jaid]

i feel like a proper pornomancer build could just talk their way out.

[Happy Trees]

i feel like a proper pornomancer build could just talk their way out.

Just be sure he's equipped with a pizza delivery outfit and an empty box with a hole in the bottom labeled "Big Sausage Pizza". Should be easy.

[mister__joshua]

i feel like a proper pornomancer build could just talk their way out.

I was thinking Face too, even if not so extreme an execution

[Medicineman]

Pixie, Mystic Adept , with maxed Infiltration Skill, Chameleon Suit ,Summoning an Air Spirit with concealement.
Now You see him, now you don't

with an unseen Dance
Medicineman

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Pixie, Mystic Adept , with maxed Infiltration Skill, Chameleon Suit ,Summoning an Air Spirit with concealement.
Now You see him, now you don't

with an unseen Dance
Medicineman

Carpet Bombing works for Pixies, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Medicineman]

Carpet Bombing works for Pixies, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

generally yes (not if the Pixie is high enough up in the Air) but....

in the middle of an Ares facility after being made,

in their own facility ?
If they don't now where mr"Unseen Pixie" is ?
I doubt that

with a doubtfull Dance
Medicineman

[KarmaInferno]

Guy with a nuke hardwired to his EEG.

"Hay, like, you really want to just let me leave, yah?"




-k

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

generally yes (not if the Pixie is high enough up in the Air) but....

in their own facility ?
If they don't now where mr"Unseen Pixie" is ?
I doubt that

with a doubtfull Dance
Medicineman

How about saturation Bug Bombs then? Or an Ares Bug Fogger System?
I mean really, Pixies are small. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Guy with a nuke hardwired to his EEG.

"Hay, like, you really want to just let me leave, yah?"


-k

ala John Crichton. Isn't it glorious? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Sendaz]

Carpet Bombing works for Pixies, though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

in their own facility ?
If they don't now where mr"Unseen Pixie" is ?
I doubt that

with a doubtfull Dance
Medicineman

Depends on whether it is at the end of the fiscal year and Accounting has just told Mr. Knight he could use a writeoff or two. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Ryu]

Magician with good Charisma, a nice spell list, and a very solid TM connection. Shapechange has been mentioned, but you´ll want a low body stat so you can do small critters. Try an elf. Also get Physical Mask to leave looking like another employee. Your technomancer friend will be able to hack the comlink and provide verifying information if you are questioned by the HTR team. Charisma will help with talking, too. Spatial sense (the one having you know your way around) will also come in handy. Since you´ll be sustaining several spells, get a bunch of Sustaining foci so your dicepools keep being useful. Are you allowed to initiate and grab Masking/Advanced Masking/Flexible Signature?

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Magician with good Charisma, a nice spell list, and a very solid TM connection. Shapechange has been mentioned, but you´ll want a low body stat so you can do small critters. Try an elf. Also get Physical Mask to leave looking like another employee. Your technomancer friend will be able to hack the comlink and provide verifying information if you are questioned by the HTR team. Charisma will help with talking, too. Spatial sense (the one having you know your way around) will also come in handy. Since you´ll be sustaining several spells, get a bunch of Sustaining foci so your dicepools keep being useful. Are you allowed to initiate and grab Masking/Advanced Masking/Flexible Signature?

My last Mystic Adept would be perfect for such things, though he is definitely NOT a starting Character. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[FuelDrop]

Guy with a nuke hardwired to his EEG.

"Hay, like, you really want to just let me leave, yah?"




-k

Raven? Really? (Just finished reading the book.)

[kzt]

The free spirit is the one I'd use, though how effective it is depends on how the char gen system is interpreted. The whole char gen system in that book is horribly broken, so you either end up with superman or robin jr. depending on what the GM decided and what of the various interpretations he wants to use.

But even the least capable free spirit can just turn off materialization and leave via the astral. Then, if the FS is wimpy, tell the GM you'd like to create a real character. If he's superman, then just go with it.

[Modular Man]

Combining the Juryrigger quality and a fine sense for deadly (or, even better, incapacitating) traps could also come in handy.

In one run, the GM took away all our gear. I've been quite fond of the implanted monowhip ever since.

[Cain]

While I did have a build capable of stealing a gun off an enemy and shooting his way out, I think the pornomancer is your best bet. If you really want to twist the knife a bit, make a leadermancer with Commanding Voice. You can literally order people to get out of your way.