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post Jun 16 2014, 03:41 AM
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So like the topic says, who owns Colt Firearms (the corporation, not the actual guns) in the SR universe? Or are they their own entity still? Looked through some books like Corporate Guide and couldn't find anything. A search for Colt on the Shadowrun Wiki just returns entries for (shudder) Kellan Colt.
Anyone know? If so, could you also tell me which book this info can be found in. Thanks.
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post Jun 16 2014, 07:37 AM
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I don't think it's been specified, but if they're not still their own company, I'd say they're a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ares.



I think I recall something about Colt being owned by Ares, but I can't be sure. Might've been a bit of fanon.
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post Jun 16 2014, 08:16 AM
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Shadowhelix says it's an Ares subsidiary which stages faux competition with them, but sadly no source on either.
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post Jun 16 2014, 09:29 AM
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I wanna say Ares off the top of my head, yeah.
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post Jun 16 2014, 06:55 PM
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As far as I know, no on has ever been able to give a source for an Ares ownership of Colt even once in the ten years I spent on Dumpshock, and I strongly suspect, having thoroughly checked over fifty sourcebooks for corporate data and read twice as much, that's because such source does not exist.

The closest it ever came to was that the Ares catalog featured in the Street Samurai Catalog did include Colt products. But since it also had Beretta, Shin Chou Kyogo, Fabrique Nationale and Northrup gear, while other sources established these companies as not Ares-owned, it proves nothing.

I guess one day a freelancer will finally decide to clearly put it and settle things for good.
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post Jun 16 2014, 07:03 PM
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I checked the Corporate Guide and, as it lists who owns brands like FN (Monobe, pg 213 CG) and Cavalier (Neo-Net, pg 122 CG) but not who owns Colt, that Ares does not own Colt. Since none of the other megas own it either, I suppose it is still it's own thing still. Thanks for checking.
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post Jun 17 2014, 02:25 AM
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QUOTE (Nath @ Jun 16 2014, 01:55 PM) *
As far as I know, no on has ever been able to give a source for an Ares ownership of Colt even once in the ten years I spent on Dumpshock, and I strongly suspect, having thoroughly checked over fifty sourcebooks for corporate data and read twice as much, that's because such source does not exist.

The closest it ever came to was that the Ares catalog featured in the Street Samurai Catalog did include Colt products. But since it also had Beretta, Shin Chou Kyogo, Fabrique Nationale and Northrup gear, while other sources established these companies as not Ares-owned, it proves nothing.

I guess one day a freelancer will finally decide to clearly put it and settle things for good.


AFAIK, Colt is a solo company. James'd be the authority on the matter, but as far as I know, COlt is a target Ares would *like* but has never managed to snag.

(Which reminds me. I need to get two new Colt weapons published.)
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post Jun 17 2014, 02:50 AM
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Like the double Colt 1911? Oooooooh~
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post Jun 17 2014, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE (CaptRory @ Jun 16 2014, 07:50 PM) *
Like the double Colt 1911? Oooooooh~

This is definitely a case of just because you can doesn't mean you should. Just, why?
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post Jun 17 2014, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE (CaptRory @ Jun 16 2014, 08:50 PM) *
Like the double Colt 1911? Oooooooh~


KINDa sorta maybe but not quite.
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post Jun 17 2014, 04:04 AM
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You did make me go look up an old favorite video, tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVOH7Ep_8w
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post Jun 17 2014, 04:12 AM
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Hahaha, yeah, that's a good video. =-3
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post Jun 17 2014, 05:16 AM
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Yeah pretty good. The one where the guy bops himself in the face with over powered revolver is pretty good too. Wonder how many broken collarbones or shoulder joints came out of this thing.
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post Jun 17 2014, 05:22 AM
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Hahaha yeah~ That one is hilarious sn't that the Nitro Express or something?

Prolly quite a few!
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post Jun 18 2014, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 16 2014, 04:29 AM) *
I wanna say Ares off the top of my head, yeah.

I swear I read an off-handed comment that it was a subsidiary. Maybe in Shadowtalk somewhere or something...

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QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jun 16 2014, 11:04 PM) *
You did make me go look up an old favorite video, tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVOH7Ep_8w

After receiving proper marksmanship lessons I can identify a few issues that'd probably help those shooters: 1) a proper standing stance, not that crappy whateverthehell they're doing would give them a heck of a lot more stability in the standing, 2) a frigging loop-sling would probably help out a hell of a lot.
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post Jun 19 2014, 01:27 AM
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And the correct answer is, "Whoever the hell the GM says owns it"...
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post Jun 19 2014, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (psychophipps @ Jun 18 2014, 08:27 PM) *
And the correct answer is, "Whoever the hell the GM says owns it"...


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post Jun 19 2014, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE (CaptRory @ Jun 18 2014, 08:35 PM) *
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As long as the guns do the job, it could be owned by Syphilitic Ninja Vampires for all I care.
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post Jun 19 2014, 01:41 AM
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I think I would walk around on fire to keep those sorts of ninjas away. Specifically I'd be on fire an smell like roasting garlic.
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post Jul 2 2014, 02:15 PM
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I'd suspect Colt is a semi-independent company, relating to Ares like H&K relates to Saeder-Krupp. But there's no clear source; while the SSC gives hints that Colt weapons in the Ares catalogue are not livcensed or proxy sales, it doesn't say anything clearly.
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post Jul 2 2014, 02:39 PM
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I could've sworn it's an aside during a weapon description somewhere.
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post Jul 2 2014, 06:08 PM
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My gut keeps telling me the same thing. In a Gun Heaven file maybe. Hm ...
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post Jul 2 2014, 06:33 PM
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Gun H(e)aven (and Arsenal) are by far the easiest possible source to dismiss, thanks to the PDF search function. Try again.
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post Jul 2 2014, 06:47 PM
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I have seen a German Wiki lists Colt as a subdivision of Ares here: http://shadowiki.de/Ares_Arms, but as it does not provide any reference as to the source of the information for that particular tidbit it may well be part of the altered German canon or just assumed.

Still slowly working though links and such to see if something turns up...
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post Jul 2 2014, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (Nath @ Jul 2 2014, 08:33 PM) *
Gun H(e)aven (and Arsenal) are by far the easiest possible source to dismiss, thanks to the PDF search function. Try again.

Hint: Ctrl+Shift+F (In Adobe Reader) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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