 Who owns Colt Firearms |
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 Jun 16 2014, 03:41 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538  |
So like the topic says, who owns Colt Firearms (the corporation, not the actual guns) in the SR universe? Or are they their own entity still? Looked through some books like Corporate Guide and couldn't find anything. A search for Colt on the Shadowrun Wiki just returns entries for (shudder) Kellan Colt.
Anyone know? If so, could you also tell me which book this info can be found in. Thanks. |
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Jun 16 2014, 07:37 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
I don't think it's been specified, but if they're not still their own company, I'd say they're a wholly-owned subsidiary of Ares.
I think I recall something about Colt being owned by Ares, but I can't be sure. Might've been a bit of fanon. |
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Jun 16 2014, 08:16 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,082 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
Shadowhelix says it's an Ares subsidiary which stages faux competition with them, but sadly no source on either.
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Jun 16 2014, 09:29 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I wanna say Ares off the top of my head, yeah.
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Jun 16 2014, 06:55 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,756 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
As far as I know, no on has ever been able to give a source for an Ares ownership of Colt even once in the ten years I spent on Dumpshock, and I strongly suspect, having thoroughly checked over fifty sourcebooks for corporate data and read twice as much, that's because such source does not exist.
The closest it ever came to was that the Ares catalog featured in the Street Samurai Catalog did include Colt products. But since it also had Beretta, Shin Chou Kyogo, Fabrique Nationale and Northrup gear, while other sources established these companies as not Ares-owned, it proves nothing. I guess one day a freelancer will finally decide to clearly put it and settle things for good. |
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Jun 16 2014, 07:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
I checked the Corporate Guide and, as it lists who owns brands like FN (Monobe, pg 213 CG) and Cavalier (Neo-Net, pg 122 CG) but not who owns Colt, that Ares does not own Colt. Since none of the other megas own it either, I suppose it is still it's own thing still. Thanks for checking.
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Jun 17 2014, 02:25 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
QUOTE (Nath @ Jun 16 2014, 01:55 PM)  As far as I know, no on has ever been able to give a source for an Ares ownership of Colt even once in the ten years I spent on Dumpshock, and I strongly suspect, having thoroughly checked over fifty sourcebooks for corporate data and read twice as much, that's because such source does not exist. The closest it ever came to was that the Ares catalog featured in the Street Samurai Catalog did include Colt products. But since it also had Beretta, Shin Chou Kyogo, Fabrique Nationale and Northrup gear, while other sources established these companies as not Ares-owned, it proves nothing. I guess one day a freelancer will finally decide to clearly put it and settle things for good. AFAIK, Colt is a solo company. James'd be the authority on the matter, but as far as I know, COlt is a target Ares would *like* but has never managed to snag. (Which reminds me. I need to get two new Colt weapons published.) |
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Jun 17 2014, 02:50 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-June 14 From: NJ Member No.: 189,579 |
Like the double Colt 1911? Oooooooh~
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Jun 17 2014, 03:40 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
QUOTE (CaptRory @ Jun 16 2014, 07:50 PM) Like the double Colt 1911? Oooooooh~ This is definitely a case of just because you can doesn't mean you should. Just, why? |
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Jun 17 2014, 03:45 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
QUOTE (CaptRory @ Jun 16 2014, 08:50 PM) Like the double Colt 1911? Oooooooh~ KINDa sorta maybe but not quite. |
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Jun 17 2014, 04:04 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,598 Joined: 24-May 03 Member No.: 4,629 |
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Jun 17 2014, 04:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-June 14 From: NJ Member No.: 189,579 |
Hahaha, yeah, that's a good video. =-3
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Jun 17 2014, 05:16 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-August 09 From: Vancouver, Canada Member No.: 17,538 |
Yeah pretty good. The one where the guy bops himself in the face with over powered revolver is pretty good too. Wonder how many broken collarbones or shoulder joints came out of this thing.
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Jun 17 2014, 05:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-June 14 From: NJ Member No.: 189,579 |
Hahaha yeah~ That one is hilarious sn't that the Nitro Express or something?
Prolly quite a few! |
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Jun 18 2014, 11:58 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
QUOTE (Critias @ Jun 16 2014, 04:29 AM) I wanna say Ares off the top of my head, yeah. I swear I read an off-handed comment that it was a subsidiary. Maybe in Shadowtalk somewhere or something... EDIT: QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Jun 16 2014, 11:04 PM) After receiving proper marksmanship lessons I can identify a few issues that'd probably help those shooters: 1) a proper standing stance, not that crappy whateverthehell they're doing would give them a heck of a lot more stability in the standing, 2) a frigging loop-sling would probably help out a hell of a lot. |
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Jun 19 2014, 01:27 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,192 Joined: 6-May 07 From: Texas - The RGV Member No.: 11,613 |
And the correct answer is, "Whoever the hell the GM says owns it"...
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Jun 19 2014, 01:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-June 14 From: NJ Member No.: 189,579 |
QUOTE (psychophipps @ Jun 18 2014, 08:27 PM) And the correct answer is, "Whoever the hell the GM says owns it"... Bullet Gnomes |
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Jun 19 2014, 01:38 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,192 Joined: 6-May 07 From: Texas - The RGV Member No.: 11,613 |
QUOTE (CaptRory @ Jun 18 2014, 08:35 PM) Bullet Gnomes As long as the guns do the job, it could be owned by Syphilitic Ninja Vampires for all I care. |
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Jun 19 2014, 01:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-June 14 From: NJ Member No.: 189,579 |
I think I would walk around on fire to keep those sorts of ninjas away. Specifically I'd be on fire an smell like roasting garlic.
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Jul 2 2014, 02:15 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
I'd suspect Colt is a semi-independent company, relating to Ares like H&K relates to Saeder-Krupp. But there's no clear source; while the SSC gives hints that Colt weapons in the Ares catalogue are not livcensed or proxy sales, it doesn't say anything clearly.
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Jul 2 2014, 02:39 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
I could've sworn it's an aside during a weapon description somewhere.
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Jul 2 2014, 06:08 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
My gut keeps telling me the same thing. In a Gun Heaven file maybe. Hm ...
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Jul 2 2014, 06:33 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,756 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
Gun H(e)aven (and Arsenal) are by far the easiest possible source to dismiss, thanks to the PDF search function. Try again.
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Jul 2 2014, 06:47 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,039 Joined: 23-March 05 From: The heart of Rywfol Emwolb Industries Member No.: 7,216 |
I have seen a German Wiki lists Colt as a subdivision of Ares here: http://shadowiki.de/Ares_Arms, but as it does not provide any reference as to the source of the information for that particular tidbit it may well be part of the altered German canon or just assumed.
Still slowly working though links and such to see if something turns up... |
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Jul 2 2014, 06:48 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,082 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Nath @ Jul 2 2014, 08:33 PM) Gun H(e)aven (and Arsenal) are by far the easiest possible source to dismiss, thanks to the PDF search function. Try again. Hint: Ctrl+Shift+F (In Adobe Reader) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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