Putting Bull's Mug on Shadowrun: Hong Kong Options

[Sendaz]

For those not aware, there is a thread here in the Off Topic section on SG to see whether any might be interested in crowdsourcing to get Bull into the upcoming Shadowrun: Hong Kong game by HBS.

So, heads up folks, Bull, the Best Ork Decker You Never Met, has offered his character up to Harebrained Schemes as an NPC, but only one thing is holding them back from having him as part of the Shadowrun video game: The $1000-Tier Kickstarter requirement. I mean, if they just let ANYONE in without going through the legit channels, then they'd have to let us all in, now, wouldn't they? And, well, you don't want to see my face in a Shadowrun game any time soon.

Maybe if I was a dwarf. I can get the beard for that.

So, with Stretch Goals needing to be hit, and a variety of other completely legitimate and awesome reasons, let us try and figure out how to get the Shadowrun Bull into 2056, when he was young, eager, and not the cranky bastard he is in the 2070s!

That's right folks, let us get the hat passed around in order to get the Panther Assault Cannon wielding Decker into Shadowrun: Hong Kong! Who is with me???

Likewise our favourite Neo Anarchist Podcaster is trying to get Opti into the game and you can see it here and use the link provided there to donate.
So if you like his reading of tales SR-ish and think it might be fun to run into him as an NPC then it may be worth tossing a few nuyen his way.

Opti has offered to let his donation page be used for also collecting toward the Bull fund and you can chip in by donating on the same page, just be sure to put "Bull" in the purpose box, this will let Opti keep track of donations toward the Bull Fund.
So why not help put some Bull into the upcoming game?

With 19 days to go it can still be done.

[Bertramn]

The link is not working.

You seem to have typed "http//..." instead of "http://...".

Here.

[Sendaz]

ah.. thought you meant the second one.. I double typed the http bit in the first .... fixed it now

Sorry for any confusion.

[Cochise]

~hmmm~ I'm certainly not unbiased as far as having to pay that one grand is concerned. But my real questions here are:

Why would I want the Bull character in the Hong Kong setting?
Why would I want to pay for someone to get an already canonically established character into the game under the rules for how backers got their otherwise non-canon characters into the game?

[Sendaz]

~hmmm~ I'm certainly not unbiased as far as having to pay that one grand is concerned. But my real questions here are:

Why would I want the Bull character in the Hong Kong setting?
Why would I want to pay for someone to get an already canonically established character into the game under the rules for how backers got their otherwise non-canon characters into the game?

Good questions.

While he is canon to the SR universe, like Canray said they are holding him to the same requisite as anyone else if we want him in there.

So in one way putting Bull in there is a bit of a easter egg for those contributing, it is something we can look toward to and he is well known enough that we could get enough folk to pool together for this.
Whereas if I wanted say Sendaz in there, I would probably struggle to get that much support together to pull it off.
(unless he was shootable by the player, then a few folk might contribute just to open fire on him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I could see whole arcs devoted to just chasing him down and killing him in creative ingame ways )
I killed Sendaz by fire.
pfft.. we physically hooked him into a deck and let the decker run the psychotropic cyberprograms on him....

I remember reading a lot of Bull's articles over the years in the various supplements and such as well as his helpful posts both here and over on that other forum.

So I guess for me it is paying back a little bit of what he has given us as players over the years.

If enough of us each give a small bit we can accomplish what separately we probably couldn't do or reasonably justify the expense otherwise.

Again, not everyone can or may even want to.
And that is there choice.

We are just giving options.
(Edit: now there is some issue of timelines as Hong Kong is supposed to be 2056, which is around the time Bull was in Chicago, but we could still swing this via having players meet Bull online in the matrix perhaps, but seeing as he is a Decker this can still work and as they expanded the Matrix side with a stretch goal who can say?)

[Sendaz]

Grats on Opti reaching his own funding goal. The Crow Flies in Hong Kong! (plus he is not canonical so we are getting a regular guy in as well)

Edit: Bull Fund up to $140 $175 now. Closing in on the 20% mark toward goal.

[hermit]

Grats on Opti reaching his own funding goal. The Crow Flies in Hong Kong! (plus he is not canonical so we are getting a regular guy in as well)

Well, he will be now, right?

[Sengir]

Sorry, but I've never been a fan of putting fan characters into official works, unless strictly for easter egg purposes.

[Sendaz]

While Opti will be in the game, I do not think that means he would be in other games down the road, except maybe expansions on the Hong Kong game itself.

As for being canon, it's more of a guest appearance in the game, I do not think HBG necessarily has influence over Catalyst concerning adding to the main lore.

There will be a Hong Kong Sourcebook, but that is probably already written up, so again fan characters probably won't be in there unless they get a special mention in a sidebar somewhere.

[Opti]

Opti is not necessarily not canon. There was a little blurb on the sidebar shadowtalk for missions adventure 5-1, where Optimyst talks about Giordanos Pizza. And Optimyst is Opti's longer name. But everyone probably already knew that.

[Sendaz]

And Optimyst is Opti's longer name. But everyone probably already knew that.

Actually did not know that as I do not really follow all the missions...

The more you know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Opti]

Frankly, I doubt anybody knew that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bull]

*I* knew that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(As a note, this really, REALLY wasn't my idea. Can Ray got carried away with something, and Opti was kind enough to help him out. It's cool and awesome and I'm flattered by the whole thing though. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

[Umidori]

Bull's not bad, but I bet we'd get a lot more interest if it was Mungo.

...no offense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

~Umi

[Sendaz]

Bull's not bad, but I bet we'd get a lot more interest if it was Mungo.

...no offense. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

~Umi

I heard they did ask about that but all they got back was a lot of pale faces among the designers and a mumbled responses of Mungo being 'too big to fit into the game' and 'obscene violence level '. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The Bull Fund is up to $198 now, and just under 2 weeks to go so let's hope we can gather some more support. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Opti]

$218 now...

[ShadowDragon8685]

I heard they did ask about that but all they got back was a lot of pale faces among the designers and a mumbled responses of Mungo being 'too big to fit into the game' and 'obscene violence level '. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The Bull Fund is up to $198 now, and just under 2 weeks to go so let's hope we can gather some more support. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Hey, it could've been worse. Could've been Bubba.

[Sendaz]

Hey, it could've been worse. Could've been Bubba.

Yeah..... that's a whole skilltree I just don't even want to think about without some laes or brainbleach handy...

[Sendaz]

Update on the Bull Fund: Now up to $223 with just 7 days to go.

Remember, for the price of a cheap soykaf and a Nuke'em Dog you too can help put Bull's face in the game space

So skip the indigestion for one evening and bask in the warm glow of helping your fellow runner.

Or that might just be the residual effects from that last trip into Glow City.

It's 50/50, but probably the former (just in case you can find the potassium iodide tablets in the medkit )

[toturi]

Yeah..... that's a whole skilltree I just don't even want to think about without some laes or brainbleach handy...

Bubba and Mungo.

Shadow's Best Chummers Forever

[Sendaz]

nm

[Opti]

So... yeah. We actually got the money today. $1000 to get Bull in. You did it, chums!

[Sendaz]

WOO!!!

Wow, so we aren't hitting the 1st National Bank this afternoon then?

*crumples up the plans*

Just as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Bull]

Umm. Holy drek. Wow. That's amazing. Thanks guys! I really don't know what to say...

[binarywraith]

Better make sure it's quotable, since we're gonna hear about it later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)