 Netflix made a Shadowrun movie., ...kind of... |
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 Jul 21 2017, 05:15 AM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731  |
No, I'm not kidding.
OK, so it's modern-day L.A. rather than the future, but still. It's Shadowrun with the serial numbers filed off, as far as I'm concerned. |
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Jul 21 2017, 05:41 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,825 Joined: 12-June 16 From: Israel Member No.: 200,423 |
Nice!
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Jul 21 2017, 06:02 AM
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Awakened Master Ninja Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 932 Joined: 30-January 07 From: CalFree Member No.: 10,844 |
Link won't load. Could you please tell us the name of the film?
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Jul 21 2017, 06:18 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
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Jul 21 2017, 06:47 AM
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Awakened Master Ninja Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 932 Joined: 30-January 07 From: CalFree Member No.: 10,844 |
Thanks. Looks like it won't be out until Christmas.
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Jul 21 2017, 11:02 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Interesting. Looks more like Hellboy, lacks dwarfs and trolls, and anything more cyberpunk than current-day America (which admittedly is viable cybernetics away from CP2020, murder-cops and thugs with machine guns and all) but ... probably at least fun.
Maybe they'll make a show out of it. That'd be nice. Like Alien Nation but more modern and with orks and elves and magic. |
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Jul 21 2017, 11:08 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (Tanegar @ Jul 21 2017, 12:15 AM)  No, I'm not kidding. OK, so it's modern-day L.A. rather than the future, but still. It's Shadowrun with the serial numbers filed off, as far as I'm concerned. The only thing missing really is cybernetics... and the dystopian society. Also notice that the blonde elf girl seems to be some sort of Phys Ad. |
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Jul 21 2017, 11:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 11-May 12 Member No.: 52,307 |
It's very tempting…
But: - By the director of Fury and Suicide Squad - Netflix trapped me already once in watching War Machine - By the director of Fury and Suicide Squad |
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Jul 21 2017, 11:42 AM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE The only thing missing really is cybernetics... and the dystopian society. What, even more dystopian? |
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Jul 21 2017, 11:46 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 21 2017, 07:42 AM) What, even more dystopian? Compared to Shadowrun's Seattle, modern day LA is a Paradise! No acid rain, no smog, very much reduced gang violence, no crippling taxes. So yeah, LA has it good. |
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Jul 21 2017, 12:12 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE Compared to Shadowrun's Seattle, modern day LA is a Paradise! I suppose it's about where you start from. And what crippling taxes? |
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Jul 21 2017, 01:13 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
The trailer doesn't make it very exciting. Looks like a bland cop-buddy movie with a coat of paint.
Considering that having modern days + magic + cyber is enough to be Shadowrun with serial numbers filed off is one of the reason why I've been disappointed in a lot of what I've seen in the Shadowrun line since the end of 4th ed. The cyberpunk elements of the SINner/SINless divide, the ubiquitous technology and its impact on the metahumanity, the neo-feudal corporatist order and the over-mediatisation are just as important as magic and cyber. |
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Jul 21 2017, 02:58 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 21 2017, 08:12 AM) I suppose it's about where you start from. And what crippling taxes? I thought one of the things that SINners had was unusually high taxes. |
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Jul 21 2017, 04:00 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Uhm ... no?
QUOTE ("SR5 Core Rules @ 3rd revised edition, pp 84") A character with a National SIN pays fifteen percent of their gross income in taxes. (...) A [character with a Criminal SIN] is also required to pay a fifteen percent tax on his gross income to the entity that issued his Criminal SIN. (...) [A] character [with a Corporate Limited SIN] pays twenty percent of his gross income in taxes to his megacorporation. (...) Those with Corporate Born SINs pay a tax of ten percent of their gross income to their corporation. Income tax rates in the US vary by income from 10% to 39.5%. In other developed countries, they can go up to 75% for the top 1%. Compared to that, Shadowrun SINner taxes (10% to 20%, a flat rate independent of personal income apparently) don't seem very excessive. Add to that a basic DocWagon contract at 417 Nuyen/month (considering services offered and Shadowrun's healthcare pricing, a bargain!), and your average UCAS national SINner (unless they are in the less than 778/month income bracket, where the flat 15% tax fucks them over compared to today) is equal or even better off than a current US citizen in terms of taxes and health insurance (DW doesn't seem to mind pre-existing conditions or hazardous employment, so long as their bills are paid). A CrimSIN cuts into your civil rights, but no worse than the US guts ex-con civil rights. Maybe less, actually, since it at least doesn't say whether a CrimSINner is allowed to partake in votes. So no, tax-wise, SR is not very dystopian, though the low tax rates do not bode well for the power of the UCAS armed forces. |
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Jul 21 2017, 04:13 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 21 2017, 11:00 AM) Uhm ... no? ... (snipped for brevity)... So no, tax-wise, SR is not very dystopian, though the low tax rates do not bode well for the power of the UCAS armed forces. Well color me surprised. I would have thought it would have been a much higher percentage. Thank for you for the correction. |
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Jul 22 2017, 04:04 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,756 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
It looks like a movie that could exist in Shadowrun world about the 2020ies...
"A very good portrayal of the years that followed goblinization and a reminder of when magic and augmentations weren't so widespread, and the Matrix simply did not exist." "As usual, it seems there are no dwarf or troll actor available in Hollywood." "You can wonder about the casting of Elvgar Ramirez and the very choice to feature a thirty- or forty- something years old elven character at a time the oldest were in their early twenties." |
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Jul 22 2017, 06:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 24-June 17 From: Bible Belt, USA Member No.: 210,183 |
QUOTE (Nath @ Jul 22 2017, 11:04 AM) It looks like a movie that could exist in Shadowrun world about the 2020ies... It is almost scary how true your post could be... |
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 Jul 22 2017, 08:52 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: 8-July 09 From: Detroit Barrens Member No.: 17,365 |
Like most trailers, it has potential.
I shall remain cautiously optimistic but withhold my final verdict until I see it--but thanks for letting me know it's out there! I'll defiantly give it a look. Sign-- Wacky |
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Jul 22 2017, 09:56 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,312 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
~hmm~ Interestingly enough my first thoughts while and after seeing the trailer weren't about Shadowrun. My initial reaction was in fact "So someone decided to make a fantasy based re-imaging of 'Alien Nation' with orks, elfs and pixies instead of the alien Tenctonese".
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Jul 22 2017, 11:39 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,188 Joined: 9-February 08 From: Boiling Springs Member No.: 15,665 |
QUOTE (Cochise @ Jul 22 2017, 05:56 PM) ~hmm~ Interestingly enough my first thoughts while and after seeing the trailer weren't about Shadowrun. My initial reaction was in fact "So someone decided to make a fantasy based re-imaging of 'Alien Nation' with orks, elfs and pixies instead of the alien Tenctonese". If they didn't have magic in it, then I'd agree with you, but add in magic and you've kinda sorta got Shadowrun |
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Jul 23 2017, 06:19 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,312 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
QUOTE (KCKitsune @ Jul 23 2017, 12:39 AM) If they didn't have magic in it, then I'd agree with you, but add in magic and you've kinda sorta got Shadowrun I'd say "magic" comes with the "fantasy based" part of my comment. Just because it has orcs, elfs, magic and some tech it still doesn't scream "Shadowrun" to me. As I said: the neo-noir buddy cop premise says Alien Nation for me rather than SR |
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Jul 23 2017, 06:40 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Hey I'm just happy to see something close to it. Hopefully it spins off into something more.
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Jul 23 2017, 07:09 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE As I said: the neo-noir buddy cop premise says Alien Nation for me rather than SR My thoughts too. The fae-hating human cop and his new partner. I wonder if his name (Scott Ward) means "shitpile" in Orkish ... That said, Landis' work on Dirk Gently was okay, I enjoyed that show. Maybe this will be nice too. Maybe even nice enough to be turned into a series. |
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Jul 24 2017, 08:07 AM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,312 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
QUOTE (hermit @ Jul 23 2017, 08:09 PM) Maybe even nice enough to be turned into a series. Given what happened to Sense8 with a similarly niche target audience I'd doubt that Bright has a serious chance of turning into a series ... unless a major recast occurs and expenditures on FX are reduced. Will Smith - just like Mr. Caan back in the day - currently doesn't look like a serious contender for such an ongoing serial production. |
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Jul 24 2017, 08:11 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Netflix policy is to create, and then axe, lots of projects, in hopes that some crazy idea goes viral. With that in mind, I'd say Bright has a better chance in becoming a series than most (which is still pretty slim).
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