Astral gateway |
Astral gateway |
Dec 30 2017, 02:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 16-February 12 From: Minnesota Member No.: 50,147 |
This power works on mundanes, are technomancers mundane for this?
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Dec 30 2017, 05:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 27-September 12 Member No.: 56,316 |
I would say yes. This power is talking about mundane vs awakened, as in normally only awakened individuals can interact with the Astral. Everyone else (non-awakened) would be "mundane" for that purpose.
I would personally rule that the Emerged (technomancers and others with a Resonance attribute) could utilize this, but would lose access to their Resonance while projecting as they essentially gain a temporary connection to Magic. |
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Dec 30 2017, 11:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 573 Joined: 23-July 03 From: outside America Member No.: 5,015 |
If SR5's version is anything like based on:
QUOTE (Magic in the Shadows p117) Astral Gateway The power permits anyone, magician or non-magician, to project into astral space. Free spirits cannot, however, use this power to suck victims into astral space QUOTE (Target: Awakened Lands p102) Astral Rifts Astral rifts are natural phenomena that function similarly to the free spirit power Astral Gateway. Anyone in the area affected by a rift, mundane or Awakened, can use astral projection as if they were a full magician. Some astral rifts have been known to force those within them to astrally project, willing or not. QUOTE (Target: Awakened Lands p13) Astral Rifts A rift allows physical beings access to the astral plane via astral projection, even mundanes. The Chaco Canyon Rift (...) allows anyone in the area who concentrates to astrally project as if they were Awakened. QUOTE (Target: Awakened Lands p109) Altyerre then all residents of the 6th World are divided up into Awakened and Mundanes, alternatively into Magicians and Non-magicians. Whether otaku belong to the former or the latter is largely irrelevant, both categories can be subject to Astral Gateway / Rifts.This affects the user as with the free spirit power of Astral Gateway, allowing them to astrally project. This grants all users, including mundanes... I agree with Kiirnodel though that an otaku would lose access to their mojo "as if they were a full magician". |
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Dec 31 2017, 12:31 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
Well, it's not as if there are a lot of things to hack on the astral plane.
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Dec 31 2017, 07:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 573 Joined: 23-July 03 From: outside America Member No.: 5,015 |
But since the otaku's meatsack is slumped in his beanbag back on planet Earth, still within range of the Matrix, I certainly could imagine a player whose character is astrally projecting through a warehouse / office block / etc. saying he'll use his innate matrix sense to track down and bring up a blueprint schematic of the facility to guide his astral travelling. It's a legitimate question. A cybermage who's proactively downloaded the map in advance would have this knowledge, so it's fair to resolve whether an otaku can reactively obtain it on-the-fly. I guess I'd consider allowing it with the +8 TN for overriding the RAS Override for them to concentrate on the Matrix without being Disrupted by their shift in attention.
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Dec 31 2017, 08:28 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,351 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Behind the shadows of the Resonance Member No.: 17,653 |
Or the -6 DP penalty for SR4 & SR5 rules on working in and out of VR at the same time.
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Dec 31 2017, 09:57 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 27-September 12 Member No.: 56,316 |
Except that while projecting, you don't have access to any sensory input coming in from your physical body.
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Dec 31 2017, 10:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 573 Joined: 23-July 03 From: outside America Member No.: 5,015 |
Except that while projecting, you don't have access to any sensory input coming in from your physical body. That may well be the case in SR5, which this thread is about. I do remember in SR3 though:QUOTE (SR3 p176) The physical body manifests any damage inflicted on the astral form and vice versa. If your astral form is killed, your physical body dies as well. Healing techniques used on one body also heal the other, whether they are magical or mundane. It's just like in Looper where [ Spoiler ] giving people at the body a way of communicating with the remote mind (and vice-versa as long as the projecting character has a scalpel weapon focus). While the quote says the damage is experienced by (and equally lethal to) both partitions of a projecting character it doesn't explicitly state that the character perceives the pain from the wound. I expect they would, however.I'm not entirely convinced that experiencing the Matrix as an otaku / technomancer is equivalent to simple sensory input from a physical body. It seems to arrive in the awareness or consciousness. |
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