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post Dec 12 2018, 05:06 PM
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<< No, Shark's right. We can't let him live. His mind is full of sorrow and fury for his friend's loss, he'll stop at nothing to avenge him. Even now his first thought was to detonate his bomb and blast us all to pieces (big thx, bnc). I'm sorry, Anna, but he's WAY too dangerous to be kept alive.>>
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post Dec 12 2018, 05:15 PM
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>> He's seen our faces, our questions tells him what we're after. He's been in the van and seen our gear. He was prepared to kill himself and us to keep his secrets. We might be persons of interest after our adventure at the museum, so we can't drop him off at the nearest KE outpost.

>> Eliza, bnc, please search for a good place to get rid of him?
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post Dec 12 2018, 08:26 PM
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Eliza replied: <<I'm not entirely comfortable with killing him. If you want to get rid of him throw him into the Danube - or take him to Abdecker. As a ghoul and decker he might be interested in his meat and his ware.>>
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post Dec 13 2018, 12:01 AM
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<< Okay, so you are not comfortable with killing him, but you would give him to a ghoul? How twisted is that? Killing him would be a mercy compared to that fate... Anyways, his 'ware might actually be worth quite a bit. He is cramped with expensive stuff. Just a thought. >>
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post Dec 13 2018, 06:02 AM
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Eliza replied: <<I meant of course that you could gift his corpse to the ghoul. Killing him is still not something I'd recommend. If you want I can call the boss and ask him if he knows of a better alternative.>>
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post Dec 13 2018, 07:15 AM
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<< Alright, alright. That just seemed a little weird, you know! Well, I don't see why not to ask him. What does the rest think? >>
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post Dec 13 2018, 09:25 AM
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She texts the team >> Well, if he died on battle it was one thing, he is grieving he just verified kill on his friend. I don't judge him, he was terrified we outnumbered him, he was left alone we had magic. His mage only cared for himself and bolted leaving him and his friend to die without any magical protection. The rest of us were just playing our parts, and he seems like a good soldier dare I say better than any of us individually. What if he burns his bridges in some way so he cannot go to the police or back to his employer? I have nothing against him he just did his job, I can respect that. We are all well and sound, a little tired but none of us is wounded.

She then texts Wraith privately eyeing him with a disappointed look.
>> Wraith you should be ashamed of yourself, calling yourself a Christian and then offering murder? Is this faith just a lip service? Aren't life important, isn't he created in the image of the Lord? Do you fear his retribution more than you fear the rules of your own deity? Does he scare you so much that you are going to murder him? I refuse to believe that he wants vengeance and nothing more, even if he was willing to blow himself out fearing torture, or as a desperate act of vengeance. I do not read minds, but seriously he is a person worthy of love and respect.


Anna says softly to Assault in a calm voice "You probably assume that we are discussing what to do with you.
What are you going to do to me if I let you down? Are you going to hit me? or attack? Run? There is a problem, you are a very dangerous person. I understand the danger of letting you live, but is empty vengeance all you have inside?

Have you ever considered running the shadows and be officially dead? Leaving your past and all your obligations behind and start fresh as somebody else entirely? You got the skills, the augmentations and I don't think that you like being somebody's puppet. A full body replacement is going to cost you a lifetime of servitude, are these the life you desire? They all treat you like a tool or an investment. Why don't you become like us? Isn't freedom a meaning of its own? Can you get over what just happened here and move on?

And don't bother lying to me, we can see your thoughts. I am looking for a way for us to establish trust enough so that you can keep breathing despite how powerful and dangerous you are. Help me out in there, will you Andreas?"



Anna privately texts Eliza >> I don't do murder, please - work your brain and find some other option. I... don't respond to death so well. Please, you must be like super smart.

##OOC since we entered combat in our own volition I was assuming Anna has her ballistic mask on. He likely saw our faces through the drones before though.
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post Dec 13 2018, 11:52 AM
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Wraith's answer to Nova's <<What does the rest think?>> came amlost instantly, while replying to Anna's private message took him some more seonds to think about it.
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<< i'm thinking that offering his flesh to this abomination is not what we signed up for. To me, this is about what's necessary, and what's not: Killing him is sad but might not be avoidable, but desecrating his corpse for our enrichment? That's a depth I'd rather not sink to. >>


@Anna:
<< Whoa, easy there. Killing and murder aren't the same thing. The bible knows that and uses different Hebrew words for them. Assault tried to kill me, you and everyone on the team. He spent the last weeks hunting Kerstin, a friend of mine, down like a sick animal and came this close to killing her. Any man who attempts to kill me or a friend forfeits puppy protection in my books.
So yes, I value life and creation, and that's exactly why I'm having a big problem with this murderer roaming around and posing a threat. I've been a pacifist for long enough, and all that it achieved was more good people dead. I won't let Kerstin or any of us be the next.

But fair enough, have your chance to get him to heel peacefully. I'll keep watch on any attempts to ly. If you can get it done your way, all the better. But anything less that 100% certainty is a risk we cannot take. >>


Wraith probes for grave moral decisions within Assault's past: Basically, any acts of cruelty or atrocities that could justify killing or sparing him in the eyes of a faithful man. Plus, he scans his thoughts for any information conflicting with what the man tells Anna.
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post Dec 13 2018, 12:17 PM
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She texts Wraith back >>I am very upset Wraith, thank you for not lashing at me. Note that we attacked him, and Kerstain while being your friend is likely infected and is far from being an innocent. You do not have to be a monster to hunt her, and if you manage to distance yourself enough, you know that I am right. It is so embarrassing; I just can't do that to him. Thanks for giving him a chance.

Something of the man reminds her of Kynos, perhaps the lack of essence, or the poor choice of employer. She does not know if the two are anything alike, she knows very little on either of them. Though, Kynos saved her life from a deranged blood mage that she still dreams about at night. The sweet man that could flip out and become an insane murderer, the one she slept with and enjoyed. How could he be all these things in parallel? A gentleman, a music lover and the guy who butchered his employees for power. The one that enjoyed watching her terrified and almost paralyzed form fear. She could not process it. Kynos saved Flatline from that monster. He is a good man, either he felt a moral obligation, or he just acted rationally. This bodyguard did not seem like much of a monster, more like a desperate and asocial man doing what he needed to survive. Yes, this is where the similarities stroke her. Kynos perhaps had contacts, but friends? She doubted it.


Her senses are as sharp, and her mind is racing for some idea how to not kill a helpless man. As much as the man was dangerous, he was entirely at their mercy and could do nothing to protect himself. Killing him now like that would be more horrifying than what Nova did to his friend. The blood mage was a necessity, Nova killing the mercenary on the ground had tactical benefits in a very dangerous situation. I could not judge... but how do I live with myself after letting that man just be murdered like that? Perhaps I don't have a "shadow runner" inside me, it is all a game for me, and then people around me start dying in the worst possible way imagined. Slobber would just kill him; he killed Zola and the adept. Why am I the one that has nightmares over these events? I am sure that Slobber just continues with his life, these images do not torment him. Why me?!
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post Dec 13 2018, 04:15 PM
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Sharkboy crossed his arms and tapped his foot, obviously showing his frustration with the delay. The act was a little melodramatic, probably from years of experience playing up to arenas..

Next time I'm just going to ask for a knife, some towels, and some sheets of plastic, and ask for forgiveness when it's done.
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post Dec 13 2018, 07:37 PM
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After having the gag removed from his mouth, the Merc answered in a broad Steierisch accent: "Is this some kind of sick joke? You just mindraped me, killed my partner and fucked with my hardware.
Do you know how expensive this ware is? Or what would happen if I went AWOL?"

He took a look at Anna's face and shook slightly his head:
"If you let me go I promise to leave you alone. Scout's honor."

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post Dec 14 2018, 07:22 PM
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bnc didn't join the conversation for a while, but finally she shares her own opinion over the voice channel, still not leaving the front seat of the van.
"Are you kidding? The man is a mercenary. Getting killed is part of his job description as he confirmed when he tried to blow himself up and take some of us with him. This sick bastard killed his one and only friend in front of our eyes. Even if he would not swear vengeange for all we did to him - and he will, even if it's not yet his intention - Dr. Johann will surely find a way to extract all the infos about us out of his brain. He said himself that he can't quit the job, even if he wants.
No, I will net put my life and the life of my sister at stake to spare a psychopath's life who tried to hunt down my only family. He forfeit his life when he took up arms against us. No one forced him to become a mercenary. It's good money, but it comes with a price.
If that means something to you, we can remove and sell his cyberlimbs and buy him a proper funeral with the money we get."
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post Dec 14 2018, 09:04 PM
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Anna felt sick, her eyes were wet, and she was a hair from losing her composure, she just could not let it happen no matter how rational it was. She wanted to scream to high heavens. I am never helping these people capture anyone alive, I want no part of this, I signed up to help them find Kerstain, not for murder.

>> Look, guys, bnc - this is where I set my foot down. I am not going to confront you, but I can't let you just execute people. I am not sure that I can continue if you do. I did some insane stuff to even capture the person, because I am dedicated to bnc - but had I realized that I am going to have him killed I... I just can't do that to people.


She gently places their prisoner on the ground, and quietly sobs, feeling defeated and broken and alone and horrified. She cannot look away, and cannot stay. She realizes that she is the one responsible, without her spell that man would still be alive and whatever information they got from the mind probe it was not worth a murder. He did not get them closer to Kerstain and now she was likely to watch the man die.
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post Dec 14 2018, 09:10 PM
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"You kiddin', right? This man already tried to commit suicide. It's not murder if he wants it for himself. It's more like, y'know, euthanasia," bnc says, strongly and painfully self-conscious about how her ancestors regarded the topic more than a century ago.
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post Dec 14 2018, 09:44 PM
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After a stifled snort of a chuckle, Sharkboy managed the rare moment that someone was more blunt than bnc.

@Team.>> What a bunch of drek, Anna. You don't carry that hand-cannon to tickle people. Our lives are worth more than your fake code of honor.

Knock him back out and find a place to dump him. >>
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post Dec 14 2018, 11:15 PM
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Anna texts >>You mean my gel round loaded pistol? Not that APDS would be lethal to this crowd... Now you mock me as well?! I am genuinely freaking out!

Can't you see? We are leaving a trail of dead bodies in our path, this story does not end very well. We already left a dead body behind us, the police will have it and start investigating. The guy we killed is somebody - not some nobody. This is not ex-territory like in the museum. Do we really want to leave another body behind us - make it a serial killer investigation? Do you even know how to dispose of bodies in this country? I don't, I don't have any contact that does. Please, don't give me this Abdecker is a ghoul let's give him the body crap. You simply do not give the evidence to people you know nothing about expecting them to eat it. Eliza clearly has no idea how to get rid of bodies. Superman is as illegal as it gets - perhaps keeping him alive is safer than leaving a body disposed of in an unprofessional manner behind?
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post Dec 15 2018, 12:15 AM
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<< Guys, calm down. We need to be on a level with this, whatever we decide to do. We are a team, and we need to work together. Yes, there are different perspectives, even drastically different as it seems. But we have to find some middle ground. Maybe we can get him locked up somewhere and let him walk in a week or so? If he even wants that and does not blow himself up the moment he has control over his 'ware again. I don't know. So, to go back to my last question... why not ask Nacl about this, as Eliza offered? He is pretty well-connected for sure and will have way more means than we do. Or we could destroy his comm and leave him somewhere in the wilds, far enough from civilization, that he won't get back anytime soon. With enough stuff to make it through, if he wants to. Just some ideas... >>
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post Dec 15 2018, 08:08 AM
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Anna sighs >> I am game for anything that does not kill him. I am sure that Mr. Nacl can find someplace to keep him. I am also game for the camping trip, but his employer can find him before he returns to civilization. Anything from sending spirits to some technological mean to identify him.
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post Dec 15 2018, 10:03 AM
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"This is not North America. There is no Alaska, where people can wander around for days without so much a meeting a hermit. If we drop him anywhere between here and Poland, he'll be back to civ within two hours, and from there can be anywhere within half a day. Which is kind of how a civlized place is supposed to be.

Yeah, let's contact Nacl then. Maybe Salt is a seasoned shadowrunner. Hope the word joke is not lost on you.

Eliza, would you?"


bnc, visibly annoyed, finally steps out of the car only to regret it the very moment the first gush of wind blows in her face.
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It took a few moments longer but then Eliza replied: <<I have contacted the boss. He says we can stash him at the safehouse near Innsbruck. There is an autodoc unit that can keep him alive but sedated for the forseeable future.>>
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"Haha, that's amazing."
bnc doesn't seem to be genuinely happy. Apparently, she finds the situation ridiculous.
"Wraith, why don't you mindrape him to find out whether he's a believer and make him swear on your bible not to geek us and rape our corpses once he avenged the only person he loved?
This is a sad joke.

All right, let's all be bad jokers, pat Anna's cheek, move that arsehole to Tirol and go meet a nerd ghoul."
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<<I'll probe his mind for any leverage. Loved ones, relatives and their livelihood, people who'd want him dead. Anything that makes him fear getting on our bad side. He makes a move we don't like, we make his loved ones pay. Or so he'll think, at least.>>
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bnc chuckles dryly. "Haha, Anna will love the moment when we torture an innocent girl to death because we want to punish the man she let live. I like it."
There's little humour in her voice, however. It's supposed by cynical, not funny.
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post Dec 16 2018, 01:59 PM
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bnc's words cut like daggers and the chill from outside matches that of within. Must she be so logical? she texts >> Going after his loved ones in case of betrayal is acceptable, I did mature in a bad neighborhood mind you. This kind of behavior is the one you expect from someone being friendly toward you. If Nacl has a safe house I suggest we use that one as well. Like bnc sais, he may not betray us but more people can mind rape. How do we knock him down without harming him?
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