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post May 20 2023, 06:48 PM
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A manifestation (not materialization) would not be recorded
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post May 20 2023, 07:07 PM
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Yeah, that would also work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post May 21 2023, 12:12 AM
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We need to figure out what the relationship was between Victoria and the other passengers. I'm still not sure if the accident was 1) an assassination, or 2) a tragedy - somehow related to the ley line - that sent Victoria over the edge and onto her current trajectory.
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post May 21 2023, 09:28 AM
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They were her colleagues from the University.
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post May 21 2023, 03:22 PM
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The irrigation ditch is 30cm across, but how deep is it? Deep enough to crawl under (sideways), or would Mato need to split and peel the fence above it?
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post May 21 2023, 07:31 PM
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The duct is 30 cm across, the ditch is wider but doesn't get you on the property.
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post May 22 2023, 01:20 PM
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Sounds like the "bug spirit" (or other possession symbiosis) could be spot on. Surely, there is one that grants the host Regeneration (i.e. one of those great form plant spirits).

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post May 22 2023, 11:46 PM
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So in the question of "was this an accident or an assassination" I'm leaning toward the former.

As an assassination, it wouldn't make much sense to put yourself in the car with your targets. There are easier ways to accomplish killing people than to put yourself in such a position of risk.

Her presence in the car, and her reported shock afterward, suggest that this was an accident that somehow changed her.

But changed her how? Did she save herself with her magical skills, but the tragedy broke her psyche, leading her down her current path (whatever that is)?

Or, here's an alternate theory: Victoria did die at the scene, but her body was promptly claimed by a shedim spirit that crawled out of the abandoned farm and followed the ley line to the accident. Their regeneration power could have healed her physical wounds. That might explain her initial shock, followed by her unwillingness to be examined by others, her aura of Fear (another of their spirit powers), and Lone Star's interest in her. I would have guessed that she's a master shedim, since they can tap the knowledge and memories of their hosts, but that's not strictly necessary. (Master shedim also have the Astral Gateway power, so summoning spirits with the X-T seems superfluous. So maybe she's a drone looking to summon a master shedim, or maybe she's a master looking for an alternative ritual to spread chaos and destruction in the physical plane.)

If anyone likes this theory, feel free to claim it ICly. Mato doesn't have the necessary knowledge skills to come up with that on his own.
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post May 23 2023, 02:11 AM
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1) Tamarind does matrix search on this odd farm: matrix search (farm): 10d6t5 5
2) I'm trying not to remember the farm from a previous game of Jack's. I'll just quietly babble in fear while trying to tell myself that really it should all be OK.
3) A few more high emotion days related to my son's friend's death. Funeral Thursday. I've been throwing my ShadowRun creativity into the games I run for him, as he's been craving that distraction. Burning months of saved up ideas to pull out the good stuff. Sorry that left me struggling to find much to say here.
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post May 23 2023, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE (Tecumseh @ May 23 2023, 02:46 AM) *
So in the question of "was this an accident or an assassination" I'm leaning toward the former.

As an assassination, it wouldn't make much sense to put yourself in the car with your targets. There are easier ways to accomplish killing people than to put yourself in such a position of risk.

Her presence in the car, and her reported shock afterward, suggest that this was an accident that somehow changed her.

But changed her how? Did she save herself with her magical skills, but the tragedy broke her psyche, leading her down her current path (whatever that is)?

Or, here's an alternate theory: Victoria did die at the scene, but her body was promptly claimed by a shedim spirit that crawled out of the abandoned farm and followed the ley line to the accident. Their regeneration power could have healed her physical wounds. That might explain her initial shock, followed by her unwillingness to be examined by others, her aura of Fear (another of their spirit powers), and Lone Star's interest in her. I would have guessed that she's a master shedim, since they can tap the knowledge and memories of their hosts, but that's not strictly necessary. (Master shedim also have the Astral Gateway power, so summoning spirits with the X-T seems superfluous. So maybe she's a drone looking to summon a master shedim, or maybe she's a master looking for an alternative ritual to spread chaos and destruction in the physical plane.)

If anyone likes this theory, feel free to claim it ICly. Mato doesn't have the necessary knowledge skills to come up with that on his own.



Few thoughts: I was trying to make into an IC once AM has some thinking time.

1. something did happen in the accident; the woman at the hospital is not as the woman that was before. Either she made a deal with a devil (spirit pact) or she died, but that said she retained her memories and knowledge, she is still a ritual master, and so forth.

2. Tien 3 radically changed their behavior half a year ago, once he met Arione so perhaps the same thing happened to him.

3. The third amigo(forgot the name) may also be compromised - there was ample time in Boston for that kind of corruption, and he did help them in the ritual which only makes sense if there is no body left in the apartment.

4. They did not try to kill Gladius; they wanted to recruit him! There shouldn't have been a body left for a police murder investigation in the warehouse. No evidence of his demise (aside from perhaps a background count).

5. (4) also explains the spirit trap, Gladius would have been banished and something else would enter in his place. Likely the same something that is inside Arione and Tien the 3rd. Again, they did not want a dead body in their living room - they wanted to do it in a controlled environment where there would be no witnesses and no body afterward. (kind of like the warehouse).

AM would likely be more knowledgeable than myself on magical threats so she can offer the Shedim angel. I was thinking it could also be a hidden bug spirit hiding since the good old MITT da.
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post May 23 2023, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE (Beta @ May 23 2023, 04:11 AM) *
1) Tamarind does matrix search on this odd farm: matrix search (farm): 10d6t5 5
2) I'm trying not to remember the farm from a previous game of Jack's. I'll just quietly babble in fear while trying to tell myself that really it should all be OK.
3) A few more high emotion days related to my son's friend's death. Funeral Thursday. I've been throwing my ShadowRun creativity into the games I run for him, as he's been craving that distraction. Burning months of saved up ideas to pull out the good stuff. Sorry that left me struggling to find much to say here.


All the best to you and yours. Don't worry about it.

If you want to reread, it was the Texas Hold'em game.

And just in case you missed it: The Karen encounter I threw at you was only meant as a fun diversion - feel free to ignore the cat steeling bitch (Trouble can take care of itself) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 23 2023, 09:53 AM
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That was what I was thinking... just give them the cat and see how much fun they are going to have with Trouble. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post May 23 2023, 04:41 PM
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Also, the matrix search provides you with the following info:

The farm has about 2 km² of extraterritorial land.
It's situation is the result of a border dispute between Texas and Azlan were both sides claim a different area based on two different treaties, that makes it so that this little piece of land is unclaimed.
Until six months ago, the farm was called La Vida Lopez. The owner, Maria Lopez, died around that time without anyone to claim the property.
It is currently in a sort of juristic limbo where no-one is allowed to enter until the ownership has been resolved.

There is a cryptic mention in a shadow forum that about a year ago some sort of run happened there, but no details given.
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post May 23 2023, 06:00 PM
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The Texas Hold'em Run is quite engraved in my memory, never fear! I'm "trying not to remember it" as in not let my knowledge from there inform anything here. (also: thanks to you and one of the other players in that game for getting me into The Laundry books).

Ah, sorry about forgetting about the cat stealers. I'd read that earlier but hadn't gotten myself together to repsond, then forgot about that part when I finally did write something. I'll edit my IC.
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post May 23 2023, 09:13 PM
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gilga, just to make sure we're on the same page:

Tien III is our client.

Tien IV is the target.
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post May 23 2023, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (Tecumseh @ May 24 2023, 12:13 AM) *
gilga, just to make sure we're on the same page:

Tien III is our client.

Tien IV is the target.

Yes, my bad. I will fix.
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post May 24 2023, 11:06 AM
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- Aha, Texas Holdem: I remember Ichante using the magic fingers in the kitchen to help Mis Lopez feed everyone. It was one of my favorite scenes; there was something so lively and vivid about it.

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post May 24 2023, 05:22 PM
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As much as I love a good fireball or a potent spirit, I must admit that the domestic applications of magic have become some of my favorite sources of RP. Maybe I'm just getting old!

In other news, 1 hit on 16 dice! Woof! That must sting.
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post May 24 2023, 09:22 PM
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So... Victoria might actually have died there.

And they are trying to get their buddies over here by using the XT.

Now IV could also be dead and possessed by a Shedim, which could also explain the excessive re-binding, if they cannot summon more spirits.

Or, he is being controlled in some other fashion and used for his summoning abilities.

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post May 24 2023, 11:35 PM
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The story I tell myself is that Victoria was the one to explode the car with her friends still alive but out cold when she realized there is a Shedim waiting for her to die.

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post May 25 2023, 06:30 AM
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But why would she do that? Assuming, the Shedim is the evil force here, and not herself.

The Shedim could have possessed a dead animal and jumped in front of the car, or just manifested as Jack implied somewhere above, cooked the battery with its spell powers (or even Victorias after the possession). Victoria was thrown out of the car and died there. The Shedim took control of her and possessed her ever since. That sounds pretty doable to me.


Also... Regeneration does not heal Drain. Absolutely nothing does. And if IV is not dead and possessed, but controlled in some other way, he does not regenerate, anyways.

If IV has Magic 10, it is just stun damage, though. If he does not, and he did bind that spirit just recently, he should have a bunch of damage right now.

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post May 25 2023, 11:35 AM
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There are ways to deal with drain - mainly centering and centering foci. But also refined and radical reagents can be used as an expensive way to reduce drain
If you are rich and well educated, you can get away with strong juju

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post May 25 2023, 11:36 AM
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I guess it is possible never tried going so high.
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post May 26 2023, 02:34 AM
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Had to pay some homage to the scooter ambush last game down this way!
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post May 26 2023, 09:07 AM
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Shedim have an innate way to cloak their auras, allowing them to pass as mundane. This technique can be learned also by regular awakened and even improved to include active spells and foci. So you never can be sure what you have spotted is actually all there is.


Yep, you can mask spells and foci, and you can change some information about your aura.

But what you cannot do (at all, AFAIK) is to mask the fact whether or not you are astrally active.

Spirits are always astrally active, since that is their natural state (unlike magicians who need to astrally perceive or project in order to become astrally active).

That is why I thought there always has to be a second aura with Victoria...

However, since the vessel here is dead, the Shedim actually is Victoria's aura, right? Or would the dead body still have an aura? I guess not.

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