 Camoflague, Why buy several camo suits? |
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 May 26 2004, 05:24 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 409 Joined: 9-March 04 Member No.: 6,140  |
One thing I don't understand; why buy camoflagued armor like in the armor section of the core rulebook? Why pay over a thousand nuyen to buy a new suit of camoflagued armor for every situation? Why not just buy plain old armor, and wear a camoflagued jumpsuit over it? That would be a like cheaper than buying a whole new set of armor for every kind of terrain.
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May 26 2004, 05:26 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Better than that, use camo suit with photovoltaic fibers like the rapid transit jumpsuits and just alter the camo to fit in, cheaper than ruthenium, but not as effective, but lasts longer.
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May 26 2004, 05:41 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Beast, don't ask smart questions. Per canon, camouflage cannot be purchased as simple BDUs. You have to buy it as suits of armor for god knows what reasons. I suggest you houserule it and never waste time on it again.
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May 26 2004, 06:12 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
I guess that canon says that you can never buy a jar of peanuts either, for the sole reason that they didn't provide pricing stats for it :P
If you have to make up house rules to include every physical object that doesn't have SR stats, you'll be wasting an awful lot of time. ed- BTW, camo clothing is canon. It's called ordinary clothing and costs 50 nuyen. Just say "desert camo, please!" when you buy it :P |
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May 26 2004, 06:42 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
They have peanuts in SR? :grinbig:
Seriously though, apply common sense where you feel it necessary. Go to Wal-Mart during hunting season and you can pick up a shopping cart full of camoflauge, non-armored clothing. Although in 2060, it might be called "Sprawl-Mart." -Siege |
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May 26 2004, 06:44 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676 |
Rapid Transit jumpsuit? Where is that? I've heard it is in Canon Companion, but I can't find it.
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May 26 2004, 06:45 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
CC pg 50 I think
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May 26 2004, 07:13 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Yeah, but this one really is canon. CC page 97 says that you can get any clothing or armor item in a camouflage pattern for free. |
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May 26 2004, 07:17 PM
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I am not here... Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 80 Joined: 21-May 04 From: Deepest Darkest Wales Member No.: 6,349 |
I'd love to take that literally but does it say just whose giving this stuff away?
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May 26 2004, 07:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 24-May 04 Member No.: 6,354 |
Typical camouflaged BDUs is covered by Ordinary Clothing. It's a whopping 50 nuyen investment (and thus isn't "free" by any stretch of the imagination). It's just as "free" as any other color/pattern in clothing is. The Camouflage Full Suit is a specific type of armor that just so happens to come in a camouflage pattern by default, it's not your typical, everyday uniform. Note also that in the main book, it's the only full-suit of armor that isn't security-grade or just regular lightly-armored clothing.
But we'll ignore that so Arethusa can continue on with his ranting about how stupid all the rules are. |
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May 26 2004, 07:23 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Without pulling the book to check, I'm going to assume the wording is closer to "available in camoflauge patterns at no additional cost." :grinbig: -Siege |
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May 26 2004, 07:23 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
My god, Lime, it is you! It is you!
[edit] And for those that really care, I wasn't aware that CC allowed all armor to be purchased camouflaged, and this creates a number of headaches (does a vest only give you 1/3rd of the camo bonus? 1/2?). Better to just sell 50¥ BDUs that cover everything and leave it at that. This post has been edited by Arethusa: May 26 2004, 07:25 PM |
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May 26 2004, 10:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 6,215 |
Actually, I bet they don't. With the growing number of people that are allergic to peanuts, I'm sure they've been replaced with soy-based products that synthetically mimic the taste. Seriously, peanuts should be heavily restricted now. I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to buy them at the supermarket, but peanut products should definitely be banned from schools, airlines, and any other place where they might cause a death. Cigarettes have been banned in a lot of bars, but peanut dust can actually kill someone nearly instantly. In Shadowrun, I imagine peanuts are even obsolete, because by then it's probably possible to mimic the exact texture and taste without having to resort to using a product that can contaminate other foods that it's near. That would cut down on production costs for a lot of non-peanut items, because you woulnd't have to use different equipment for them. |
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May 27 2004, 08:32 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
Just a moment ago you were lamenting the inability to purchase camo gear other than the two standard types in the book. Now that you've learned that you can, you say it creates headaches because of the new flexibility that it provides! We can't ever win this game, can we :P |
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May 27 2004, 08:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 17-December 03 Member No.: 5,909 |
I dont know about you but I can......................Super Munchkin/RuleLawyer Man Away!!!!!!!!!!!! :silly: |
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