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 Jun 1 2004, 01:15 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 27-April 04 From: Everywhere, but nowhere. Member No.: 6,286  |
Nope. Against Superman in some elseworlds series, he used Kryptonite to weaken him first. Against the Green Lantern, he stole the ring. Against Wonder Woman, he took advantage of the Amazonian weakness by fusing her braces together with a gadget from his belt. Batman almost never fights in full view of any of his enemies (except maybe the Joker, who knows him TOO well), and when he does, he doesn't fight fair. Straight up? Maybe against the street rabble. Sure, he'd win intimidation rolls (he won once against even Orion himself..with the help of batarangs of course) and perception rolls (spotted the manhunter even when disguised: "Nice disguise, J'onn but I can still see some of that Martian body language underneath..."). But he won't go straight up in a fight and would probably lose if he does. In fact, there was this scene in the training room between him and WW that proves the point (he lost). B: "Throat lock. Hold until you pass out." W: "Like I'd give you the luxury!" ..And lets not forget how he burns karma as if he had as much of it as his fortune.
Actually, before that, Batman already synthesized synthetic Kryptonite without his knowledge; in fact, he had a database of traits and weaknesses that he secretly collected. There was this issue of JLA where Ras' al Ghul stole Batman's JLA weaknesses data file and proceeded to wreck havoc with them...which resulted in Batman getting voted out for awhile. |
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Jun 1 2004, 05:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 125 Joined: 1-March 04 From: Gulf Coast Member No.: 6,111 |
This thread reminds me of a joke that I heard:
Q: In a fight between Superman and Mighty Mouse, who would win? A: Superman! Q: Why? A: Because he's real and Mighty Mouse is just a cartoon. Good night all... - theartthief |
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Jun 1 2004, 05:06 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
ignoring the shock of seeing Dark Knight Returns referred to as "some Elseworlds series", i'd have to agree with the Pollo. Batman can throw down with members of the JLA because, before any of them have even considered attacking him, he's already figured out their every weakness and has ten different plans for exploiting each. Batman beats Superman in every Elseworlds slugfest they have because Supes' answer to every enemy is, "how hard do I have to hit it." hell, as i recall, Superman only recently (within the past year, maybe two) figured out that he could combine his powers for greater effect--and he had to have Mogul train him how to do it!
you know what, though? no matter how useless you think Batman is to the JLA, at least he's better than Aquaman. |
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Jun 1 2004, 05:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 24-May 04 Member No.: 6,354 |
Hey! Never underestimate the power of talking to fish.
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Jun 1 2004, 05:11 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
pshh. Aquaman's the parapalegic of the JLA. "Hey, Aquaman, we're playing baseball. C'mon over, we need someone to be home plate."
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Jun 1 2004, 05:38 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Let us not forget the Bat/Supe crossover when they first met as professionals. Superman puts a hand on the Bat and gets tossed across the room.(while also getting a tracker placed on him for good measure).
Batman has little fear of super powers, he often sees dependence on a power as a weakness. (personally, I didn't have any respect for Superman as a 'hero' until his powers were stolen through magic, at which point all he did was use technology to replace them, jetpack, laser gun, etc.for crissakes, he can barely throw a proper punch) |
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Jun 1 2004, 08:10 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Let's also not use an episode of the Animated Series as a good example of anything Batman OR Superman related.
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Jun 1 2004, 08:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 24-May 04 Member No.: 6,354 |
He was almost kinda cool in the one Justice League episode featuring him. I still get a kick out of Green Lantern's line when he saw him riding a killer whale. |
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Jun 1 2004, 09:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 17-June 02 From: Concord University, Athens, WV Member No.: 2,880 |
I liked Batman: TAS... |
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Jun 2 2004, 01:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
Normally, I hate X-Box games. But do you think Master Chief has a high Karma Pool, or think he's just really damn good?
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Jun 2 2004, 01:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 2,074 |
Depends, but I'm inclined to say both. On the one hand, he's been trained and conditioned since age seven, so he must have impressive skill scores (Handles every weapon, drives every vehicle...), which in turn means lots of karma, hence high karma pool. But on the other hand, he's the last living Spartan, one out of 75.
Luck definitely factors in, so yeah, he's pretty damn good, but he's also pretty damn lucky. |
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Jun 2 2004, 02:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
The superman series was just a joke. The guy can't seem to do anything without risking a hernia. Take a look at how hard superman strains to do anything. It's pathetic. The first 2-3 seasons of the Batman series (when it ran on fox) were great. The atmosphere was good and it played out pretty nicely. Then it got...infected by idiocy. Don |
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Jun 2 2004, 08:57 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Neither. He's a munchkin lamer that would be dead years ago if it wasnt for the nifty regenerating shield. He has high physical stats but other than that he's a purely boring 12 year old's hero character.
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Jun 2 2004, 08:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
True. He's gotta be one of the most bland game characters in recent history. Still makes me wonder why Halo is so popular.
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Jun 2 2004, 09:01 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The real question is how much karma/karma pool does the main character from Marathon have? Pathways into Darkness?
~J |
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