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JaronK
post Jun 4 2004, 09:49 AM
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The discription in the book is a little vague... are flash packs reusable, or are they a one time deal? And how long do the last?

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post Jun 4 2004, 10:15 AM
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I think they're reusable not sure why but I think the description said turn on not detonate or prime to go off.

I tend to fasten it to the outside of a jacket and plug it into a data jack so you can turn it on and off as a free action. Anyone trying to target you has to look at the lovely flashing lights.

I have a friend jury rig the data jack operation.

You might want the player to carry spare batteries but survival strobe loghts are really bright and last for hours ie 500 hours.
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post Jun 4 2004, 10:18 AM
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I think I vaguely recall seeing a mention, either in a sourcebook or on these forums, that they could be used 10 times, or something. I can't and won't vouch for that, though, and I will say reusability is a completely stupid idea. I mean, really, would you throw your enemies a weapon they can pick up, rearm, and throw right back?
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post Jun 4 2004, 10:23 AM
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The 10 time thing was in SSC, I believe. I always imagined them to work like the flashes for the old Polaroid Cameras.

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post Jun 4 2004, 11:00 AM
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Who says they need to be thrown? As I said above theres no reason why you can't mount them on things.
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post Jun 4 2004, 11:16 AM
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1) Tie pack to really strong rope
2) Throw at enemy
3) Run
4) Detonate
5) Pull rope to retrieve pack

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post Jun 4 2004, 11:23 PM
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to save time on pulling the rope back have a little winch thingy, sort of like those dog leashes with a reeling in machine.

or not.
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post Jun 4 2004, 11:30 PM
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I've always wondered why 3rd Edition puts Flash Packs on the Grenade Table.
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post Jun 4 2004, 11:31 PM
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Throwing a flash pack would be a really bad idea. They're directional, guys, and if you throw it you don't know where it will be facing. They're about the size and shape of a pack of cigarettes. (from my memories of the SSC, mine is packed right now) Hide behind a dumpster, set it on top of the dumpster, point it at the bad guys and turn it on. IIRC it listed the batteries as good for 10 "uses", which I have always played as one combat turn. Never said it can't be recharged. I have mounted them on the top or underbarrel mount on an assault rifle before, fun stuff.
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post Jun 4 2004, 11:33 PM
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would flash packs have sticky tape or foam on the back?
so you can stick it on a wall or said dumpster or the inside of that poor bikers helmet visor.
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post Jun 4 2004, 11:33 PM
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Hmm, you could attach a Yo-Yo to a Flashpack.

Yo-Yo:
Whips skill,
Damge: Strength(L) Stun
Reach: 2
Avail: 2/10 minutes
Legality: Legal
Can be used to entangle like a whip.
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post Jun 4 2004, 11:41 PM
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Yo-Yo: 5 nuyen
1 meter of Detcord: 83 nuyen
The look on some guy's face when he realizes what's wrapped around him: Priceless
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Moonstone Spider
post Jun 4 2004, 11:49 PM
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Why stop there?

Monofilament Yo-Yo. One on each hand, and just mow down metahumans like a living weed eating.
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post Jun 4 2004, 11:59 PM
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If the yoyo line is made of monowire, what's looped around your finger?
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post Jun 5 2004, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (Luke Hardison)
Throwing a flash pack would be a really bad idea. They're directional, guys, and if you throw it you don't know where it will be facing. They're about the size and shape of a pack of cigarettes. (from my memories of the SSC, mine is packed right now) Hide behind a dumpster, set it on top of the dumpster, point it at the bad guys and turn it on. IIRC it listed the batteries as good for 10 "uses", which I have always played as one combat turn. Never said it can't be recharged. I have mounted them on the top or underbarrel mount on an assault rifle before, fun stuff.

Glue a weight to the back and sling it like a discus. Or rig it for an airburst.

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post Jun 5 2004, 12:02 AM
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Why not just use a simple flashbang?
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post Jun 5 2004, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (Arethusa)
Why not just use a simple flashbang?

Fah. Too simple.

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post Jun 5 2004, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE (Moonstone Spider)
Why stop there?

Monofilament Yo-Yo. One on each hand, and just mow down metahumans like a living weed eating.

That was my original idea, but a length of monowire has the same availabilty as a monowhip while costing more. Detcord was more reasonable, plus you get to wave the detonator in his face.
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post Jun 5 2004, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE (Voorhees)
If the yoyo line is made of monowire, what's looped around your finger?

I knew I should have thought of something before throwing that ....
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post Jun 5 2004, 05:23 AM
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[Deleted] due to the joke being way funnier in my head than it was...it's late...
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post Jun 5 2004, 05:47 AM
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*passes Capt. Dave a root beer for no apparent reason...Other than it's late and Phaeton's generally giddy as all hell.*

I once considered mounting grapple guns on the front of my rigger/sam's bike, but replacing the grapple cable with monowire. Monomolecular lariat, anyone? :grinbig:
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:52 AM
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They are reusable. Non-reusable flashbang grenades are in Cannon Companion.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:58 AM
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* graciously accepts root beer, Thanks Phaeton, remembers joke, laughs. Then remembers joke's not funny...*

Heh heh, just don't botch that roll, Phaeton.
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post Jun 5 2004, 07:04 AM
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Another idea was to use normal grapple-cables and use them Batman-style to skitch or turn corners really quickly using streetlights. :grinbig:
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post Jun 6 2004, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE (Phaeton)
Another idea was to use normal grapple-cables and use them Batman-style to skitch or turn corners really quickly using streetlights. :grinbig:

Y'know, I tried that once. For some reason, my heavily armored Bulldog kept going straight. Dunno why people kept asking me if I just got hitched though. Darndest thing.
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