Quick Question., Something I couldn't find information on |
Quick Question., Something I couldn't find information on |
Jun 4 2004, 02:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 280 Joined: 22-October 03 Member No.: 5,757 |
Ok the group's rigger has did it to me again and decided to be extra sick and sadistic. :S
He's taking his car back to his workshop and trying to mount retractable spears on the front end. He's also trying to fasten a chainsaw onto a rotodrone or a VTOL just so he can have it ram into people and gut them. Same for the car, he wants it to have a few pig stickers up front so he can 'crash' into problematic pedestrians, or impale other cars to stab the occupants. Firstly what would the TNs to install stuff like this, and secondly How would I handle damage codes, and speed, and if these weapons break. and Thirdly conceal rating and legality issues. |
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Jun 4 2004, 03:49 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
That's kind of like sticking a bayonet on your sniper rifle. It may look cool but it makes as much sense as a screen door on a submarine! :D
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Jun 4 2004, 04:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-March 04 From: The Grizzly Grunion, in a VIP room. Member No.: 6,191 |
Also, imagine for a second that he's successful in installing these spears and that he impales some pedestrians. They'd be ATTACHED to the car now and it's hard to make a getaway in something that conspicuous. You could shake the persuers only to pass some random LS squad car, they call in, and BOOM. You're right back where you started.
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Jun 4 2004, 04:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
I think a better analogy is a bayonet on a sledgehammer. If you're going to hit someone with a car, does it really matter that the car is pointy?
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Jun 4 2004, 04:20 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
That's a very, very good point.
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Jun 4 2004, 04:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
I know; I'm pretty sharp like that.
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Jun 4 2004, 04:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Tucson Member No.: 4,153 |
Something else to note. Chainsaws will go through flesh pretty well, but its a different story when it hits bone. The chain could slip or break from the sudden change. At least that's what I've heard. :)
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Jun 4 2004, 04:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 27-April 04 From: Everywhere, but nowhere. Member No.: 6,286 |
Why the front? Why not on the wheel spokes, where you can cause other wheeled vehicles to spin out of control upon a good sideswipe and yet reduce the risk of getting totaled?
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Jun 4 2004, 04:57 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Till said spike rips off and impales your car or wheel. broadside mounted firearms are much better suited for this.
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Jun 4 2004, 05:03 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
So is a pop up microturret with an SMG.
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Jun 4 2004, 05:10 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
If it can aim low enough. get a high ground clearance and mount it underneath.
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Jun 4 2004, 05:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 27-April 04 From: Everywhere, but nowhere. Member No.: 6,286 |
Meh. I'd rather not mount turrents underneath...limits them a lot. It's more worth it to get something like This.
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Jun 4 2004, 06:32 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Balls to that. If you're going to do it, do it right.
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Jun 4 2004, 07:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 14-March 04 From: Cal Poly: SLO Member No.: 6,155 |
I've also wondered about what the effect of spears and battering rams would be. One of my riggers has converted a Garbage truck into his combat wagon. All the goodies, etc. But one of the things he did was had the front-loader tines sharpened and dikoted. He also put motors on them so he can rotate them from horizontal to vertical.
Unfortunetly, I've never had a chance to use him yet, but he looks great on the pages and pages of paper. Stabbing into a car with them makes it as easy to lift as a dumpster is, which has some fun effects, but what kind of damage would these things really do? At creeping speeds, like a garbage truck normally does, and at ramming speeds. I don't think normal ramming rules really apply to using something specifically made like this. They're more for cars that happen to be ramming, which would be much more common. |
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Jun 4 2004, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 942 Joined: 13-May 04 Member No.: 6,323 |
Well, from the way I understand what happens when a bus hits a car, if a dump truck hit a car it really wouldn't take enough damage to scrape the paint. And I don't think the spikes themselves would do significant damage (though hitting the thing would obviously make a mark), but picking the car up after impalement... well now that would just be funny.
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Jun 5 2004, 01:54 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 27-January 04 Member No.: 6,021 |
The torque from starting a chainsaw is likely to flip over a flying drone. Imagine his first test when it goes out of control nearby.
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Jun 5 2004, 02:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
*DROOL* :love: I know what MY rigger/sam wants for Christmas... |
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Jun 5 2004, 02:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,183 |
Hah. Forget that. I know what I want for Christmas. :D |
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Jun 5 2004, 02:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
Oh? Tell. What could possibly beat a minigun-equipped assault van with taser-and-flamethrower anti-theft system that manages to pass most inspections? |
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Jun 5 2004, 02:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 22-March 04 Member No.: 6,183 |
No, no, you got me wrong. I'm just saying forget my samurai character, I want that for Christmas. :) Edit: Plus photovoltaic paint. |
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Jun 5 2004, 03:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
...Oh. :D :P Don't mind me. It's 11:16 here and I am BUSHED!
P.S.: Political reference not intended. :rotfl: :spin: |
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Jun 5 2004, 09:18 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
If the spear retract, it'd be pretty easy to get pedestrians off. Although, if you wanted to kill pedestrians, you could just slam into them going 60.
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Jun 5 2004, 09:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 2,074 |
What kind of sick bastard would even think of something as insane as a chainsaw mounted on an aerial drone for the specific purpose of flying up to people and gutting them?!? Am I the only one here who thinks this is messed up beyond repair?
No. Just... No. |
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Jun 5 2004, 09:39 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
Why? Is it any worse then just walking up to someone and chainsawing them? Sometimes you have to do what you have to do and sometimes a chainsaw is all that is at hand. It is no worse then a dikoted katana or a bat.
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Jun 5 2004, 09:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 2,074 |
It just seems that this player is going out of his way to provide some people with a very painful and macabre death, cruel in ways that are just uncalled for. For chirsts sake, just put a gun on a car or a drone and use that. It'd be much more efficient, and much quicker. Why on earth would anybody want to turn his car into a meatwagon other than for cheap shock and gore effects? There's nothing even remotely practical or reasonable behind it, unless he's looking to turn the next game session into a splatterfest. It's just sick, and not very original.
Impractical, inefficient, sick, sadistic. Definitely not in the same ballpark as "Sometimes you have to do what you have to do and sometimes a chainsaw is all that is at hand", since there's actually a lot of better options at hand. Guns. Vehicle mounted. With sensor enhanced gunnery. |
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