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post Jun 5 2004, 05:34 AM
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http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME...55-99a54930515e

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/06/05/b...page/index.html

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post Jun 5 2004, 05:45 AM
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...Holy frelling shit.

...Which also makes me wonder why Barrens gangs don't use more civil utility/construction vehicles as mobile assault fortresses.
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post Jun 5 2004, 05:54 AM
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Luckily no ones got hurt so far that they know of.

While this guy is cracked hes sure planned well for it. Seems like someone would either catch it on fire, gas him, or (my personal favorite) use Thermite. :eek:
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post Jun 5 2004, 05:59 AM
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That was pretty fucking amusing. Thanks for the link.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:09 AM
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Sheesh...Why bother trying to get ahold of milspec-grade hardware when you could cause just as much destruction with some civilian earthmover equipment? Hell, during WW2, the Marines (I think) managed to take out plenty of Japanese armored units at Okinawa just by taking their engineering bulldozers and tipping the Japanese's tanks right over. Amazing what ingenuity and several tons of heavy-duty grinding mobile metal will do.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:29 AM
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Agreed. Wondering why this nut is the only one in town with a CAT. Surely a couple of equally stout CATs could push him push to a safe area in case he is boobytrapped.

I can hardly wait to see what type of stupid legislation comes of this.

Stand by for the 2005 ABB (Assault Bulldozer Ban).

In addition to banning Caterpillar D-9s outright, all semi-automatic bulldozers with a blade width greater than {fill in blank} will be banned if also equipped with any of the following options:

* Armor plating
* Gun ports
* Cup/propane torch holders
* Fixed or removeable armaments
* Magazines with a capacity greater than 10 rounds.
* Laser guidance systems.
* Night vision devices
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:32 AM
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Yeah but Japanese tanks were pretty much crap. Even beat out the Italians in those stakes, just.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:32 AM
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Not when those CATs are unarmored and he has a gun. I sure as hell don't want to try, anyway. Anyway, this is what hapens when you bar civilians from owning assault rifles and M72A2s.

In all seriousness, it really isn't that funny. Just sad, really. At least almost no one's been hurt.

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Yes, the Japanese tanks were absolutely terrible and outdated, as was much of their ground equipment. The Ha-Go and Chi-Ha were somewhat mobile, but notoriously easy to knock out and rather impotent.

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post Jun 5 2004, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE (cutter07)
Agreed. Wondering why this nut is the only one in town with a CAT. Surely a couple of equally stout CATs could push him push to a safe area in case he is boobytrapped.

Better yet, take a Barrett rifle and put a slug into the components of the treads.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:35 AM
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I assume you mean a .50BMG rifle of any sort, as Barrett makes many types of small arms? Probably wouldn't do a hell of a lot of good. If that were the case, tanks would be ridiculously easy to knock out of commision.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:36 AM
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How fast can those things go anyway? I figure all you had to do was break one of the tracks and he's pretty much immobalised.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:37 AM
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Its only funny because no ones got hurt. This guy could have really killed tons of unsuspecting people but he didn't. I'd rather see 10 of these guys stump the LEOs then 1 Timothy Mcvay kill innocent women and children.

They are currently putting some .50 cal rounds into it, blew most of the propane tanks but the armor is very very thick. They took out his radiator last I heard so he isn't using the engine much or at all. At this point theyre trying to talk him out.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:40 AM
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I agree, it wouldn't be remotely amusing had innocents gotten hurt, and I really don't mind that lots of property got destroyed. Doesn't mean the situation isn't sad, though.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:44 AM
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Whats saddest is this guys pissed over losing in court for some zoning issue at this muffler shop. How weak is that? I mean I can understand if you push a guy too far and he cracks but this guy must have went choo-choo for cocopuffs years ago.

I'll give him an A for effort, originality, and stamina. F for reasoning, finish, and lack of chrome. :D
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:49 AM
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I'd say it's more prudent to withold judgement, considering that there very well could be details that have yet to reach the public. Seems rather unlikely he or anyone else'd go this far for only $2,500 out of his or her muffler shop.
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post Jun 5 2004, 06:55 AM
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Yeah your right. A guy this prepared know he isn't walking away. Hes got some ace in the hole most likely, but hopefully if he uses it alone. Hopefully the local LEOs\mayor will swallow thier pride and ask the Guard to step in before this goes too far.
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post Jun 5 2004, 07:05 AM
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Is this thing still going on this late? Is there anyone carrying coverage of this? Should I turn on the tv?
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post Jun 5 2004, 07:52 AM
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CNN isn't covering, nor headlien news. Just news bullets. Not sure why,..
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post Jun 5 2004, 07:54 AM
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...0/ny11606050130
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post Jun 5 2004, 07:57 AM
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I thought it had been resolved awhile back. It still went on longer than I thought I guess. I suppose that guy could still be holed up in that bulldozer though, since I haven't read anything about him coming out or being verified as dead in there or anything.


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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/06/05/b...ldozer.rampage/

Looks like as of 1am eastern CNN is reporting that the guy is still in there and they haven't tried to open it up yet.
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post Jun 5 2004, 08:00 AM
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The episode came to an end about 4:30 p.m. Friday, when Heemeyer's self-styled assault vehicle came to a halt in the attack on Gambles Store and was cornered by emergency responders driving a road grader.

It was not immediately known if Heemeyer was still alive inside the vehicle. Unofficial reports said he had welded the vehicle's door shut.

Jim Holahan, director of emergency services for Grand County, said at one point deputies from the sheriff's special response team were on top of the 53.8-ton Caterpillar D9 Bulldozer, firing at Heemeyer through its jury-rigged viewport.

Remarkably, authorities said, no injuries among townspeople were reported in the incident.


Its 3am CST and the end hasn't been called. Hes got to be in there deep if they haven't pulled him out in 10+ hours.

http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/ar...2939053,00.html
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post Jun 5 2004, 08:02 AM
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Won't see it in the news until tomorrow, maybe. It wasn't exactly that long a rampage compared to what happened when this guy got a hold of an M60 tank back in 1998....(was on World's Wildest Police Chases)

Biggest problem is that nobody wants to kill the poor insane bugger unless absolutely necessary. As always is the case in such situations, even when they destroyed thousands of dollars worth of property and homes :S
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post Jun 5 2004, 08:03 AM
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Yeah, he must be. He's probably killed himself if he isn't talking. Fox News has on their website article that they've tried on three occasions to blow the door open on the thing too.

Craziness...
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post Jun 5 2004, 08:38 AM
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They could always just fire tear gas at it until he gives up. A few hours exposed to that stuff will make anyone unhappy.

My bet is either suicide or a lucky police shot entering the viewslits and hitting him. He may actually be alive (in the second scenario) but wounded/unconcious.

Don't blame them for not wanting to get close, though.
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post Jun 5 2004, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE (GreatChicken)
Biggest problem is that nobody wants to kill the poor insane bugger unless absolutely necessary. As always is the case in such situations, even when they destroyed thousands of dollars worth of property and homes :S

Right. Because, clearly, property eventually adds up to be worth more than a human life.
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