 The Books of Harrow, The real Necronomican? |
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 Aug 26 2003, 02:09 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-February 02 From: London, England Member No.: 1,680  |
For those that know a lot about Earthdawn, and its links to Shadowrun, what do you believe happened to the Books of Harrow? Are they present in the Sixth World? Could someone have them and be using them? Could this be how Darke found out all the stuff he shouldn't know?
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Aug 26 2003, 02:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 731 Joined: 25-March 02 From: Rye, New York Member No.: 2,470 |
Now there's an interesting, and unsettling point.
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Aug 26 2003, 02:25 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
Question: Books of Harrow?
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Aug 26 2003, 02:34 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 847 |
The books of Harrow were a set of tomes in Earthdawn that foretold the coming of the horrors before the scourge. Reading them resulted in eventual insanity and other extremely bad things.
I ran a campaign a few years back where my players worked for Aztechnology. They went from site to site finding different artifacts, doing assassinations and other assorted tasks. Each task dealt with something from the 4th world, and many of them pointed to the existence a magical civilization (Earthdawn). As time went on they became more aware of what it was they were uncovering. Eventually they found the books of Harrow in Chicago of all places. Deciding what to do with them split the party, and they ended up killing each other over them. One side wanted to return them to the Azzies while the other wanted to share them with the world and thus prepare it for the next scourge. |
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Aug 26 2003, 04:21 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-February 02 From: London, England Member No.: 1,680 |
In my present game one of the players contacts has a copy of the Necronomicaon, which is actually one of the Books of Harrow that has had text added. This extra text is in english (or what ever language the reader reads) and details certain rituals. The contact has used the book to raise his sister from the dead (Master Shedim) and ward his shop even though he is mundane.
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Aug 26 2003, 05:49 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
hmm, there are some boxes that a dragon wanted destroyed, aztech shows signs of either haveing or had access to some sort of info. the tir(s) may have (alltho that could just be IE's remebering stuff) to many options, and then im not even starting on the real conspiracy stuff (iluminati andso on :silly: )
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Aug 26 2003, 06:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 27-January 03 From: Kentucky, USA Member No.: 3,958 |
That would be these boxes from the will:
The question then becomes, who is "Locomotive"? And why would he be entrusted with the Books (if that is indeed what's in the boxes)? Also, Big D seems to think that Nadja is capable of using the contents of the other boxes, if necessary... and no one else is. Also, which 'comrade' was D referring to in the first paragraph? Double Tuesday? Apparently, if this person survives that event, it becomes necessary for "Locomotive" to open the box and use its contents. |
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Aug 26 2003, 06:09 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
:eek: Bethlehem Steel! I can look out my office window and see the old Bethlehem steel plants now. Unfortunately for the Big "D," Bethlehem Steal is now out of business ..... so much for it all coming true :(
-- Dashifen -- |
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Aug 26 2003, 06:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 96 Joined: 8-March 02 From: Tlön, Orbis Tertius Member No.: 2,211 |
I sort of expected someone using the handle "Arab One" to call the Necronomicon "the Kitab al-Azif." :D
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Aug 26 2003, 06:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 27-January 03 From: Kentucky, USA Member No.: 3,958 |
Which reminds me!
Ahh, yes, the Necronomicon. Of course, this book is a fiction, created by H. P. Lovecraft for one of his short-stories. However, anything goes in Shadowrun. ;) Also, Necronomicon was the Latin name for the Greek translation of the texts. According to Call of Cthulu d20:
From the description, it sounds as if the Big D either had one of the original Greek folio translations, or a first-printing from Germany. I'm guessing the former, as it should be a unique copy, and as close as anyone can come to the original, without having the Arabic manuscripts. Note that the CoC RPG tries its best to stick to Lovecraft's works, as well as those inspired by him, but I doubt anything was quite this detailed in dates & such. I'll go through my books to see what I can dig up... |
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Aug 26 2003, 06:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 27-January 03 From: Kentucky, USA Member No.: 3,958 |
Notice he said, "microwave blast furnaces." Considering those haven't been invented yet, sounds like someone bought out the plants and company, then installed new equipment... er will install... wioll haven been installed... :grinbig: |
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Aug 26 2003, 08:07 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
*ahem*Roggoth'shoth
'nuff said. |
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Aug 26 2003, 09:09 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
I figured the Heavenherds took them off to Azania.
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Aug 26 2003, 11:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 27-January 03 From: Kentucky, USA Member No.: 3,958 |
Which novel was that in again? |
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Aug 27 2003, 12:35 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
As I recall, 'twas "Who Hunts the Hunter"
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Aug 27 2003, 07:37 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-February 02 From: London, England Member No.: 1,680 |
Roggoth'Shoth?
I've never read Who hunts the Hunter as SR books are pretty hard to come by over here (There are a few but its complete randomness as to which ones they will be). Who is Roggoth'Shoth and how does he relate to the Books of Harrow (if at all)? |
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Aug 27 2003, 07:37 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
I think that's the name of some creature from one of Lovecraft's tales.
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Aug 27 2003, 07:43 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-February 02 From: London, England Member No.: 1,680 |
Having just checked AH's site (Like I should have done to start with) it turns out it's the name of a book. What did the book do in the novel?
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Aug 27 2003, 01:06 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Ah, it did describe an impending apocalpse-type situation by entities from the far distant netherworlds or some such. Oh, and it let him make an essence-stelaing undead horde. Very Lovecraftian, vaguely Books of Harrow. Nice old guy burned it.
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Aug 27 2003, 03:38 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-February 02 From: London, England Member No.: 1,680 |
Okay, that sounds alot like what I am doing with the Book of Harrow currently in my game. Could the book have survived the burning, or merely been a copy of the original? |
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Aug 27 2003, 03:48 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
:vegm: Regenerating using the Essence of those the Book consumed through the ages, the lost pages, scattered across the globe by Fire and Wind, are collecting themeselves. The runners are pawns of far reaching forces in a race against knowledge between those who would destroy the past, and those who will destroy the future... On 'Trix Feeds Everywhere! :D |
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Aug 27 2003, 04:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 731 Joined: 25-March 02 From: Rye, New York Member No.: 2,470 |
Ancient magical works have a talant for surviving, like the Arc of the Covenant. That might be why D went to such details on how to destroy the boxes, unopened, to prevent the viewers from being tempted by them. The danger pay, which we all thought might come from what'si n the box itself, might be for avoiding a shadowrun from people trying to get the boxes back.
By George I think we've got it! |
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Aug 27 2003, 04:01 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 26-February 02 From: UK Member No.: 340 |
In Earthdawn wasn't there something baout Major Pattern Items actually recreating themselves if their physical form is destroyed? If so, this could be a perfect example of it occurring. |
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Aug 27 2003, 04:23 PM
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Better be careful though. Anyone actually using the book sets off the "Summon Ash" Spell anchored to it. :)
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Aug 27 2003, 05:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 |
Chainsword cyberhand and obsolete shotgun? Puh-leeze.
Doesn't even have any boost ware. He'll be some troll sammy's date to the prom. |
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