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Ninj
post Jun 17 2004, 07:14 PM
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Hi. If a mage who is astral projecting and is doing overwatch for a SR group infilitrating a building then can the astrally projected cast spells against people in the physical world??

Combat would be a good example of this. If the mage cast a stun ball or elemental manipulation spell to effect people in the physical world then would the spell(s) work against physical objects/people??

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post Jun 17 2004, 07:16 PM
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No, a mage can only cast on things in the same plane as himself. An astrally projecting mage can only affect astral beings, or dual-natured beings.
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post Jun 17 2004, 07:19 PM
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An astrally projecting magician can't even Conjure spirits, either, IIRC (as both Projecting and Conjuring are deemed Exclusive actions)
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post Jun 17 2004, 07:21 PM
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Correct. You can, however, give commands to spirits while projecting. You cannot summon or call from stand-by any spirit, but if they were around before you project, you can give them orders normally.
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post Jun 17 2004, 07:34 PM
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Yeah.

Since an astrally projecting magician is pretty useless on the physical realm, I've found an Ally Spirit performs this task well -since it can not only perform astral overwatc, but in a pinch it can materialize and provide additional support on the physical realm.
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post Jun 18 2004, 11:15 AM
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Summoning (when one first conjures) is exclusive, but calling or commanding a spirit is not exclusive, and so both can be done while projecting.

SR3, p.186
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post Jun 18 2004, 12:53 PM
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So, in other words. If my mage character wants to help protect the SR runners in my group through astral projection then I will have to summon some spirits (elementals in my case since I am a hermetic mage and not a shaman) to do combat for me.

The only exception is using spells against any astrally perceiving or dual-natured creatures if I get that lucky.
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post Jun 18 2004, 01:04 PM
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And when a mage cast spells in the astral, that mage takes physical damage instead of stun.
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post Jun 18 2004, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Mr.Platinum)
And when a mage cast spells in the astral, that mage takes physical damage instead of stun.

Yup. I forgot to mention that... :D
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