 Channelling Ally Spirits, Can it be done? |
  |
 Jun 19 2004, 02:06 AM
Post
#1
|
|
|
Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676  |
Does anyone know if ally spirits can be chanelled? If they can, how do the rules differ from normal channelling?
|
 |
 
|
|
Jun 19 2004, 02:09 AM
Post
#2
|
|
|
Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
The general thought is that they cannot be channeled, nor can free spirits or any non summoned spirit.
IMO, Only spirits that owe services can be Channeled. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 19 2004, 02:23 AM
Post
#3
|
|||||
|
Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
If you consider Ally's to owe infinate services, then you could channel it once and it would then become free or disappear. |
||||
|
|
|
||||
|
Jun 19 2004, 02:23 AM
Post
#4
|
|
|
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 30-March 03 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 4,355 |
Once channeled, the spirit owes you no more services no matter how many you had remaining.
As a GM, I would allow a player to channel an ally spirit or free spirit bound to him/her with the understanding that the spirit would be free of its servitude once the channeling was complete. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 19 2004, 02:24 AM
Post
#5
|
|
|
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Some disagree. usually the ones who also bring up "What if a bound free spirit is channeled?"
[/edit] personally, I allow Ally and bound Free SPirits to be Channeled without their freedom being granted at the end. Others disagree. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 19 2004, 04:12 AM
Post
#6
|
|||
|
Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,931 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
Ditto. |
||
|
|
|
||
|
Jun 19 2004, 04:47 AM
Post
#7
|
|
|
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 409 Joined: 9-March 04 Member No.: 6,140 |
How do using the powers work? Can you simultanseously sustain movement and conceal, can you only sustain one at a time, is there any penalty for sustaining powers?
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 19 2004, 04:49 AM
Post
#8
|
|
|
Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
You treat the channeler as the spirit with a force equal to the spirit. Whatever limitations on powers the spirit had, the channeler now has.
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 19 2004, 01:32 PM
Post
#9
|
|
|
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
Thinking about it a little more, how about this.
after the channeling letting the ally test to go free as if the character had taken deadly (i think that one way for it to happen). 2 chances if the charatcer does actually take deadly from the channeling And with (bound) free spirits, allow the Channeler a another attempt to bind it again if they want it. if after taking the the D Stun from the Channeling they can still rebind the Spirit then they are powerfull enough to keep it hanging around in my book. Just some ideas. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 19 2004, 07:16 PM
Post
#10
|
|
|
Illuminate of the New Dawn Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 317 Joined: 9-June 03 From: Seattle 'Plex, UCAS Member No.: 4,700 |
I don't think, power-wise, it should be a big deal to allow channelling of Ally spirits. I mean, compared to most other spirits, you wouldn't get a whole lot of powers. You could Sense Link with yourself... uhhh, how about telepathic communication with yourself? Immunity to Normal Weapons would be usefull, but that's about it.
Free spirits are a whole other argument. They could really get out of hand, power-wise. Allowing a player to channel something with some of those cool Free Spirit abilities... like after channelling it, going to its Personal Domain and whopping hoop... or using its wealth power for quick cash... Not game breaking, maybe, but on top of its other, normal spirit abilities... One hell of a powerful channelling. |
|
|
|
|
Jun 20 2004, 12:53 PM
Post
#11
|
|
|
Target Group: Members Posts: 67 Joined: 11-March 03 Member No.: 4,238 |
However, wouldn't free spirits either demand something in return (treat as Dragons for rules on dealing with them).
Either that, or you're talking a bound free spirit, in which case you're only annoying it more in preparation for when it does eventually break free. Maybe it won't stop at just trying to kill you then, maybe it'll keep you alive, but kill your friends, or otherwise go for the life destroying approach before finally destroying your life (in a more terminal sense). Then again, maybe it secretly gets a kick out of it? |
|
|
|
|
Jun 20 2004, 06:48 PM
Post
#12
|
|
|
Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
You can't channel a free spirit unless it's bound, because until then it doesn't owe you any services. Even once it's bound, it still technically doesn't owe you anything, it's just obeying you.
It would be interesting to see if a free Loa spirit would agree to Possess someone, though. |
|
|
|
|
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 10th June 2023 - 07:27 AM |
Topps, Inc has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. Topps, Inc has granted permission to the Dumpshock Forums to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with the Dumpshock Forums in any official capacity whatsoever.