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 Jun 25 2004, 08:57 AM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185  |
Euskal Herria :P
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Jun 25 2004, 11:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 26-February 02 From: East Jerusalem Member No.: 2,022 |
Free Corsica... And Greece that-should-have-been-but-isn't ? :P |
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Jun 25 2004, 02:04 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Goettingen Member No.: 1,094 |
According to Fanpro's Fantasy Shop newsletter Shadows over Europe is "out now" in the US.
"Schatten über Europa"(the German translation) is in the layout process and nearly on its way to the printers. note: F-Shop information is 3/4-official ;) |
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Jun 25 2004, 02:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
Hey, Sirdoom. ;)
Oddly enough, it's listed as out of print at Amazon, but having been released on June 1st. Don |
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Jun 25 2004, 02:40 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
Kinda like how the Pentium 4 was "out" and "available" but no store hasd one in stock for 6 months after "release"
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Jun 25 2004, 09:30 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Let's just agree that the first person to actually lay their mitts on it posts confirmation here... the timing seems about right though.
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Jun 25 2004, 09:36 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Ok when the main name on the product doesn't know where it is, we have a problem.
I looked at stiggybaby, nothing and they're usually pretty good. |
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Jun 25 2004, 10:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Württemberg, AGS Member No.: 2,068 |
Is there something to the rumor I read that Russia will be covered in Shadows of Asia?
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Jun 25 2004, 11:01 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Um... I highly doubt it. Most of Russia, thanks to the Yakutians, is west of the Urals so classed as European. They do have land in the far east like Vladivostok but that got covered in Target: Smuggler Havens so I don't think they'll waste wordcount repeating it. If they ever did a Target: Eastern Europe maybe, but not in the Asia one.
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Jun 25 2004, 11:32 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Flashpoint: Balkans War fever spreads across the Ukraine and beyond as a brutal warlord with corporate ties begins a conquest to unite the Eastern Bloc. Caught between old loyalties and new money, then PCs must subvert the military might of three nations to survive. Can they overcome the rising tide of hatred, or will they become its next victims? Flashpoint: Balkans takes the characters and players to the world of 2064 throughout Eastern Europe in three dark adventures about loyalty, professionalism, and nuyen. An adventure set for experienced and beginner Shadowrun players.
Coming in 2064. :rotfl: |
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Jun 25 2004, 11:46 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
So expect it late '66 then? :D
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Jun 26 2004, 12:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bangkok (sometimes Paris) Member No.: 332 |
You know, the strict geographical definition of Asia would show Europe as a Euro-centric invention based on nothing else than the "we are better than the rest of the world" idea that was common during renaissance and until WW2. Even if we accept the idea of Europe as a valid continent, Asia still goes from Turkey to Japan, from Siberia to India, from the east side of the Ural to Irian Jaya's end of Indonesia, From Arabian to Kamchatka peninsula (err, Kamchatka island now :) ). That's definitively a lot of possible land to cover. |
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Jun 26 2004, 01:01 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
I would have classed Turkey as near-east and the Arabian Peninsular and Iran as the middle east. Anything east of that is asia IMO.
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Jun 26 2004, 01:17 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
In the opinion of geographers, Near- and Middle East are parts of Asia. |
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Jun 26 2004, 02:31 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Ah well, that probably explains why I got such lousy marks for geography. :)
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Jun 26 2004, 02:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 190 Joined: 26-February 02 From: East Jerusalem Member No.: 2,022 |
Oh yeah... :dead: |
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Jun 26 2004, 02:39 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Remember the campaign medels for Gulf War 1.0 was the "South West Asia campaign medal" |
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Jun 26 2004, 10:58 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Please don't read anything into the comment. The build up to the convention season, at least four other book projects in varying stages of development and regular business can have negative sideeffects on the chain of communication. From what I have heard SoE should be hitting the shelves any day now, and that's enough for me. Since I live in the ass end of Europe I'll probably be the last SR fan to see it on sale anyway. |
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Jun 26 2004, 11:13 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 498 Joined: 31-May 02 From: All the way in the Back to the Left. Member No.: 2,800 |
I bet you can't wait for it to come out; so you can stop answering these where the H is it questions instead of pride for the work you've done and getting it published. ;)
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Jun 26 2004, 02:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Württemberg, AGS Member No.: 2,068 |
So... is it time for a Shadows of Europe subforum yet? ;)
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Jun 26 2004, 04:46 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I won an auction for a copy months ago ;) ~J |
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Jun 26 2004, 05:10 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
As some of you will have seen by now (thanks Bull) Shadows of Europe is now available at Origins. It should make its way into stores over the next coupla weeks. I can't wait till we start getting reviews!
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Jun 29 2004, 08:59 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Yay, we get our own forum. Now let's see what people really want to know about SoE...
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Jun 29 2004, 01:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Earth Member No.: 1,274 |
Where's the elf porn?
Er, no wait a moment. That was just the April Fools Day stuff over on FanPro's SR homepage wasn't it? Oh well, open the gates and let the games (and criticism) commence! (Psst, Synner. You run for the shelters and I'll cover you OK?) "Ooo, Look! Is that Lofwyr and Maria Mercurial's lovechild over there..." Quickly receeding hoofsteps... |
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Jun 29 2004, 02:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Earth Member No.: 1,274 |
Oh, and just to answer the original question there...
As Synner states its one of the largest chapters in SoE (would have been far bigger but heck, we didn't have the space). Now we tried to cover as much as we could, but realise that the chapter was written as an introduction to the UK for people who have never lived there (IE: American shadowrunners). In this regard it isn't as detailed as the information originally given in the London Sourcebook. Not really surprising when you have to write into an existing history, explain a new country, catch up on over ten years of Sixth world events and how they affected the UK and still manage to squeeze some original new plotlines in there. All whilst bringing over the "feel" of the country to the reader (and mainly to the GM so they can impart that atmosphere to the players). However, I think we managed it quite nicely considering the wordcount limitations. There was far more written that had to be painfully chopped out (heh, just talk to Synner the Scalpel wielder), and hopefully some of those ideas and paragraphs will manifest in other products. I know that I'll be using them were I can. Take heed all you UK convention goers - you have been forewarned! PS> I'm not the one to blame about calling football soccer - its so the Americans wouldn't get confused with their nice armoured take-a-break-every-five-seconds version of a real man's sport like Rugby. :D |
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