[ShadowsOfEurope] So what's in it?

[ShadowsOfEurope] So what's in it?, ToC

Synner View Member Profile	Jun 29 2004, 07:19 PM Post #1
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185	To avoid me answering yet another mail on the subject, and so I can once again plug the book, here's a sketch of the table of contents: THE NEW OLD WORLD Once Upon a Time in Europe The New European Economic Community CorpTalk Special: AAAs and Eurocorps Mid-2063 European Organized Crime Awakened Europe The Rest of Europe THE ALLIED GERMAN STATES AUSTRIA CZECH REPUBLIC FRANCE ITALIAN CONFEDERATION includes primer to the RCC and Vatican POLAND DIVIDED includes the two Polands PORTUGAL SCANDINAVIAN UNION includes sections for member nations: Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden SPAIN AND EUSKAL HERRIA SWITZERLAND TÍR NA NÓG UNITED KINGDOM UNITED NETHERLANDS

Ecclesiastes View Member Profile	Jun 29 2004, 07:51 PM Post #2
Jesus Freak Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,141 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Anaheim, CA Member No.: 6,274	Besides the expected ton of info on Europe, what additions are there as far as rules go? New metamagics, tech, etc? I'm not expecting any details, just teasers. :)

Synner View Member Profile	Jun 29 2004, 09:05 PM Post #3
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185	This book follows the style of Shadows of North America and as such I wouldn't expect much in the way of rules - except for the obligatory Matrix and Border stats - just loads and loads of background information, intrigues and plothooks, national slang and new players. What new rules there are are mostly the province of the GM. However, Loose Alliances and SOTA64 will likely include further material developing the stuff in the Awakened Europe section.

cha-cha View Member Profile	Jun 29 2004, 09:33 PM Post #4
Target Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tempe, Arizona, USA (saving up to buy a share in Pueblo, though!) Member No.: 1,101	I can't really add anything of substance here other than to say thanks to everyone involved in this. I am SO excited to read this book. I remember buying the SR1 book when I was 14 in 1989 and hearing, right after DNA/DOA got released, that Shadowrun was cancelled (from a very ignorant comic shop clerk). Obviously, untrue. Then when FASA went under, I got nervous again. Shadowrun has always been a nice distraction and even though I have sometimes taken 2-3 years between games, it is always nice to "come home" (as I recently just started up a campaign with some new folks after a hiatus that started in 2002). So, for putting your money where your mouth is, thanks to the SoE crew with all sincerity. Even, on the remotest chance, that the book is lousy (again, I highly doubt it, given the warm personalities and vast knowledge that carry across on the board), you still pulled together as a group and DID something for a game you love. Sorry for the nostalgiac old man rant...just been realizing lately that I have been playing SR for over half my life and wanted to be able to thank some folks who, without realizing it, have given me a place to play when school/work was rough, relationships went bad, or money was tight. Luckily, school/work is easy, I have a good gal (who supports but wants nothing to do with SR :( ), and money is so so...so dont feel TOO bad for me. Again, thanks (and sorry for rambling)...just wanted to use this board for something other than a question or debate :D

Ecclesiastes View Member Profile	Jun 29 2004, 09:41 PM Post #5
Jesus Freak Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,141 Joined: 23-April 04 From: Anaheim, CA Member No.: 6,274	Synner: Thanks for the info, I look foward to the read. :)

Sepherim View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 01:52 AM Post #6
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 326 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Vigo (Spanish Kingdom) Member No.: 1,446	Cha-Cha, you'r gonna make us all blush! :oops:

otaku mike View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 02:28 AM Post #7
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bangkok (sometimes Paris) Member No.: 332	To give more details without too much info, I thought a complete ToC could be a good teaser, so here I go: INTRODUCTION CAPTAIN CHAOS INTRO THE NEW OLD WORLD ____Once Upon a Time in Europe ________The End Times ________Dark Days ________Strange Winds ________The Changing Times ________Setting the Stage ________European Restoration ________The Crash ________Russian Invasion ________The Great Jihad ________The Calm After the Storm ________Rebuilding and Restoration ________Current Affairs ____The New European Economic Community ________A Tangled Web ________What It Does ________So HowDoes It All Work? ________Council of Ministers ________The Commissions ________Implementation Committees ________Other NEEC Organisms ____CorpTalk Special: Mid-2063 ________The AAA Megacorporations ________The Euro-Mega-15 ____European Organized Crime ________Once Upon a Time in Europe ________The Alta Commissione ________Friends of the Family: The Syndicates ________From Russia, With a Vengeance ________Smaller Players ____Awakened Europe ________The European Magic Scene ________The Fey ____The Rest of Europe THE ALLIED GERMAN STATES ____The Land and The People ________The AGS in a Nutshell ________The Wild North ________A Gateway to the East ________Stuck in the Middle ________Westward Bound ________The Beautiful South ____In the Spotlight: The AGS Hot Spots ________Karlsruhe: The Hermetic Vision Applied ________Rhine-Ruhr Metroplex: The AGS Melting Pot ________Greater Frankfurt Metroplex: The AGS Financial Capital AUSTRIA ____From Rising Wyrm to Rising Sun ________MediaSim ________A Queen Elected ________The Strizzis' Honor ____Vienna: By The Beautiful Blue Danube ________North and West: Old Vienna ________South: Escape from Alt-Erlaa ________East: Anarchos Vs. Corps ____Waltzing Through Austria ________The Sound of Music: Vorarlberg and Tyrol ________The City of Salzburg ________The North: Salzburg and Upper Austria ________After the Big Bang: Carinthia and Styria ________States at War: Lower Austria and Burgenland CZECH REPUBLIC ____Heart/Soul of a Nation ________Past Tense ________Present Tense ____A Walk through the Country ________Bohemia ________Moravia ________Marienbad Council ____The Awakened Republic ________The Kutna Hora Ossuary ________The Karst Caves ____Prague: The Golden City ________A Place of Magic ________Markets for the Arcane ________Corporate Cancer FRANCE ____A Bolt from the Blue ________Current Affairs ____The Dented Hexagon ________Getting In ________Blending In ____The Estates of the Nation ________The Balance of Power ________The First Estate: Nobility ________The Second Estate: The Church ________The Third Estate: Corporations ________The Fourth Estate: Underworld ____Urban Playgrounds ________Paris ________Marseille ________Lille ________Nice ____French Oddities ________Brittany (Bretagne) ________Auvergne ITALIAN CONFEDERATION ____History ____The Roman Catholic Church ________The Schism ________The Pontiff and the Divided Church ________The Clergy ________The Vatican ____The Papal States ________Rome ____The Other States ________GeMiTo Sprawl ________Florence/Central Republics ________Naples/Mezzogiorno ________Sicily ________Trieste/Carnia ________Venice/Serenissima POLAND DIVIDED ____A Short History of Poland ____The Two Polands ________The National Republic of Poland (NRP) ________Free Republic of Poland (FRP) ________The Liberation Army (AW) ________The Domestic Army (AK) ________Other Polish Factions ____Into the Frontlines ________The North: Pomorze and Mazury ________Heart of Poland: Mazowsze and Wielkopolska ________The Front Line: Silesia and Malopolska PORTUGAL ____Lusiada ________Family Matters ____Making Money ________Spinrad Industries ________AegisCognito ____Underworld Redux ________Baptistas ________Kussondulola ____Lisbon ________The Sentinel ____Algarve Corporate Enclave SCANDINAVIAN UNION ____State of the Union ________Inside the Union ________Corporate Court Negotiations ________The Wireless Matrix Initiative ________Culture and Religion ________Crime ____Denmark ________Danish Corps ________Places ____Finland ________Erika ________Finnish Shadows ________Haparanda Anomaly Zone ____Norway ________Norwegian Corps ________Norwegian Shadows ________Oslo ____Sweden ________Swedish Corps ________Swedish Shadows ________Stockholm SPAIN AND EUSKAL HERRIA ____Spain's Recent History ________Dying Land, Rebirthed Land ________Race and Reason ________Crash and Control ________Jihad ________The Fall of Asturias ________Nowadays ____Lights and Shades ________Politics ________Policlubs ________Law Enforcement ________The Spanish Church ________Corporations ________Shadow Biz ____A Tour of Spain ________Madrid ________Barcelona ________Gijón ________The Canary Islands ________Galicia ________Andalusia ____Euskal Herria ________The Basque Life ________Politics and Corps ________Religion SWITZERLAND ____Set in Quartz ________Dancing to Corporate Music ________Modern Plagues ________Recent Events ____Tüpisch Schwiizerisch (Typical Swiss) ________Identification ________The Virtual Canton ________Swiss Franc Vs. Nuyen ____Berne: Capital in Ruins ____Zürich ________Escher-Bürkli Island ________Zürich Investments ________The Vault ________White Collar Crime ____Swiss Made ________Extraterritorial Business Zones (EBZ) ________Swiss Gadgeteers ________Zeta-ImpChem ________The Genom Corporation ____Swiss Alps: The Idyll of the Mountains ____The United Nations: Shattered Dreams ________The Peacekeepers' City TÍR NA NÓG ____Recent History ________Current Events ____The Paths of the Wheel ________The Danaan Mythos ________The Paths and Magical Orders ____The Courts ________The Seelie Court ________The Unseelie Court ____Power Players ________Tír Government ________The Danaan Families ________Celtic Druids ________Underground Groups ________Corporations Crime ____Strange Magic ________The Veil ________Storms and Madness ____Tír Society ________Getting In/Out ________Law and Enforcement UNITED KINGDOM ____Land of Hope and Glory? ____The People ________Made in England ________Enter the Revolution ________It's a Fair Cop! ____The Power ________Rule Britannia: The Crown ________The Nobility ________The New Druidic Movement ________The Government ________The Lord Protector's Office ________In for a Penny ____The Land ________The Zone Act ________The Sprawls ________The Spills ________The Wild Lands ____And It's Spirit! ________Lore and Orders ________The Ley of the Land UNITED NETHERLANDS ____Sugar, Spice and Everything Nice ________History ____Power Playing ________The Corporations ________The Government ____Location, Location, Location ________Amsterdam ________Antwerp ________Brussels European City ________The Europort ________Drowned Lands GAME INFORMATION ____Faeries and Euro paranimals ____Austria ____Czech Republic ____France ____The Allied German States ____Italian Confederation ____Poland ____Portugal ____Scandinavian Union ____Spain and Euskal Herria ____Switzerland ____Tír na nÓg ____United Kingdom ____United Netherlands ____Border Crossing Stats ____Euro Grids ____Slang Note that this ToC comes from the final edits docs, but may be slightly different from the actual one presented in the book. I hope that helps :) I also hope that doesn't breaks my NDA...

Austere Emancipa... Austere Emancipator View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 03:44 AM Post #8
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222	I doubt there's a single copy of the book in Finland yet, but I'd just like to get this out of my system: :eek: ERIKA?!?!?! :( (Although I remember reading a rumor about that earlier...) Still, I'm checking the local gaming store's website every hour for any news on when it's going to be available...

Synner View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 07:32 AM Post #9
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185	Let's not get started on that name. It was the subject of months of discussion and all manner of headaches. It was originally introduced into canon in Dragons of the Sixth World (see it all comes together now) in Celedyr (thanks, Jon) and Lofwyr's chapters. Why the name is explained in the book as well as quite a few surprising details on this Scand mega.

mfb View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 08:07 AM Post #10
Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670	erika?

Synner View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 08:38 AM Post #11
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185	If you haven't gotten it yet then the logo should be a dead giveaway ;)

lorg

Jun 30 2004, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE (mfb)

erika?

Think about it ... Two large scandinavian corporations ... take a few letters from each name ... add them together :)

As Syn put it, there was a few others before we cracked this gem ...

deeweef View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 09:37 AM Post #13
Target Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 280	I'm blaming it on the Finn. :) (if you can't pick his name from the credits you're not from Finland ;) )

sirdoom View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 01:36 PM Post #14
Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Goettingen Member No.: 1,094	[ Spoiler ] Erikson - Nokia >>> Erika :rotfl:

lorg View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 02:12 PM Post #15
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625	[ Spoiler ] not to mention it (erika) is a much better name then the original one which was "Noricson" if I recall correctly.

otaku mike View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 02:23 PM Post #16
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 265 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bangkok (sometimes Paris) Member No.: 332	I would still have preferred a completely new name rather than a merging of 2 real names. I prefer the solution adopted by the new corpo that is a fusion of an english and dutch corpo.

Austere Emancipa... Austere Emancipator View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 02:29 PM Post #17
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222	Can't Fast Reply on sub-forums? Oh I agree, Erika sounds infinitely better than Noricsson. However, it could have just been Nokia-Ericsson. However, I do understand that artistic license is much more important than 3x the revenue or ½ the other's revenue in net income in 2003 -- 60 years is a very, very long time, when Nokia hasn't been a major corporation for more than maybe 10. And I think I already ranted about this once, I didn't really want to get back into it. I just wanted to get it out of my system. deeweef: No fricken way, he'd have to have been really unpatriotic to sell Nokia that cheap. :P

Adam

Jun 30 2004, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)

Can't Fast Reply on sub-forums?

Oops. You can now :-)

Nath

Jun 30 2004, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE (Austere Emancipator)

Oh I agree, Erika sounds infinitely better than Noricsson. However, it could have just been Nokia-Ericsson. However, I do understand that artistic license is much more important than 3x the revenue or ½ the other's revenue in net income in 2003 -- 60 years is a very, very long time, when Nokia hasn't been a major corporation for more than maybe 10. And I think I already ranted about this once, I didn't really want to get back into it.

IIRC, you rather ranted about Alcatel-Nokia from Deutschland in der Schatten II. That one is back too, a reference hidden somewhere, but there wasn't enough room to give any explanations about it (and overall touch the topic of the Eurotronics Consortium, for that matter).

Sepherim View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 03:56 PM Post #20
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 326 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Vigo (Spanish Kingdom) Member No.: 1,446	It was a pity, many things had to be left as mere references deep in one of the chapters. We really wrote waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than what can enter in any normal-sized sourcebook! :D

Synner

Jun 30 2004, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE (Nath @ Jun 30 2004, 03:50 PM)

IIRC, you rather ranted about Alcatel-Nokia from Deutschland in der Schatten II.

Just for reference, once firmly established as a household name Erika licensed out the Nokia brand name for a few million nuyen to the Eurotronics Consortium which in turn established Alcatel-Nokia.

Nath

Jun 30 2004, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE (Synner)

Just for reference, once firmly established as a household name Erika licensed out the Nokia brand name for a few million nuyen to the Eurotronics Consortium which in turn established Alcatel-Nokia.

That's your version :P

Synner View Member Profile	Jun 30 2004, 07:33 PM Post #23
Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185	True :P

shadd4d View Member Profile	Jul 1 2004, 07:55 AM Post #24
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230	Do people meet the Sysops of each country, i.e. do you meet Tell, AHAB, Reality Czech, and Konwacht for ADL or Austria? Don

lorg View Member Profile	Jul 1 2004, 08:15 AM Post #25
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 439 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .se Member No.: 625	Last I saw there was an introduction to each section /country/ by one of the locals. So I guess Yes kind of, sort of, don't know exactly if it was those people talking but there was someone.

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