Social Adept, I tried searching but couldn't find it |
Social Adept, I tried searching but couldn't find it |
Jul 1 2004, 06:44 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 26-June 03 Member No.: 4,816 |
Greetings all,
I am considering playing a social adept in an upcoming campaign and I was looking around for rules or previous threads on the topic, of which I am sur there are many, but when I tried to search, the web page kept giving me an sql error, so if anybody has a link to any previous threads or perhaps a netbook on the topic I would greatly appreciate it. McSass |
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Jul 1 2004, 10:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 12-June 04 Member No.: 6,398 |
Officially, the only powers and metamagic you can aim for that will help out in Social Situations are the following:
Unofficially, you can always use the Knack power to gain access to one or more of the above spells (or any others you like). The problem with Knack is that you only gain a number of dice equal to the level you buy the power at, so contested spells are usually pretty easy to beat. Your best bet is the Physical Mage, but they get rather cheated when it comes to initiations since you have to choose between a Metamagic Technique or a Power Point -- you don't get both like normal adepts. Beyond that, picking up the standard Edges like Good Looking & Knows It, Good Reputation, and Friendly Face can give you an extra boost in certain situations... but any mundane can do that as well. |
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Jul 2 2004, 12:09 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Oh, c'mon. There are others. THey just require a bit of imagination.
For instance, the Smashing Blow power makes a dandy helper to, say, Intimidation rolls. :P |
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Jul 2 2004, 12:15 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 22-July 03 Member No.: 5,013 |
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Jul 2 2004, 01:32 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
there's going to be stuff for social and other non-combat adepts in SOTA:64, according to the blurbs that've been released. granted, that's a ways out.
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Jul 2 2004, 10:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,722 |
Check out the wReflexes site for more on Social Adepts and an artical in the Shadowrun Supplemental IIRC.
Cheers QM |
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Jul 4 2004, 06:38 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
I guess I'm a bit dubious about the concept of social adepts. The problem, to me, is that a GM already walks a fine line, trying to have social skills actually matter in the game, but not hinder the actual roleplaying. And this goes for NPCs, too, if they are not generic encounters but actual fleshed-out personalities.
Social adepts blow that to hell, because not only do they have more dice to roll, but they also undermine an argument the GM could use, that social skills can only take you so far. Who's to say what a supernaturally enhanced adept could do? I don't mind people using the powers that are out there now to make a decent adept face. But when you add improved mental Attributes and social skills, along with powers that duplicate spells or critter powers, it can get out of control. |
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Jul 4 2004, 06:42 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
In some respects, yes.
But a "Face" adept has the added burden of being able to survive the rigors of combat in addition being able to talk a good talk. Given an adept's limited amount of power points initially and the variety of karma demands, a "social" adept is less likely to get out of control than, say, a combat specialist adept. Can you make some really scary, one-dimensional NPC social adepts? Sure. But how long would a specialist social adept survive in any scenario that didn't involve their uniquely honed powers? -Siege |
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Jul 4 2004, 06:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 6,215 |
Hey, at least there'd be a lot of people at their funeral.
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Jul 5 2004, 06:24 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 26-June 03 Member No.: 4,816 |
Could anybody tell me which issue of TSS social adepts were in? Thanks.
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Jul 5 2004, 07:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 1-April 02 From: Finland, Iisalmi Member No.: 2,497 |
Heh, I watched the anime DNA2, and I'd say the main character was a social adept whenever he was in the Superplayboy mode. Girls would drop to their knees and wet their pants even just by looking at him. Hell, he even got really good fighting abilities at the same time.
A Physical Mage could become a really nasty social guy, with spells, adept powers, and some bioware(Cultured Tailored Pheromones, anyone?). |
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Jul 5 2004, 02:39 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Depending on your interpretation of "Social Adept", sure - the possibility is there.
One school of thought holds that physical and social adepts are two entirely different types of adepts with differing point costs for powers. Following that scheme, physical mages would have to choose either the "physical" or "social" tradition of the adept. Although GMs might be a tad leery of allowing characters that can crank their Charisma/Intelligence/Willpower to absurd numbers as part of their inherent ability, thereby supplementing the "mage" side just as easily. However, physical mages absolutely suck karma and it takes them even longer to become skilled, never mind masters of their various domains, moreso than physical or social adepts. -Siege |
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Jul 5 2004, 04:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918 |
Twin Customized burst fire Ares predators loaded with APDS are my socializing tools. And they've NEVER lost an argument.... :rotfl:
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Jul 6 2004, 06:50 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Well, that's witty... :P |
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Jul 6 2004, 01:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918 |
Hey, what can I say? I'm a walking B-grade action movie.
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Jul 7 2004, 04:55 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Touche pussycat. ;)
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Jul 7 2004, 05:54 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918 |
LOL
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Jul 9 2004, 10:24 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,401 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099 |
Heh, I have to admit, seeing the words "Social Adept" make me think "Prostitute". But maybe that's just me.
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