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 Jul 3 2004, 07:46 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 30-June 04 Member No.: 6,448  |
Here's something that I really never thought of until I decided to put a critter against a couple runners...
How many dice do they roll for their attack? The critters listed in the Critters book don't have any skills listed. I'm assuming it's all melee combat, but what is their skill at melee combat. There are a few that list to resolve their combat as ranged combat, then what skill is used for that? As for martial arts and critters. I'm also guessing it would be considered Brawling with no maneuvers. If I'm overlooking the obvious here, please let me know where to find it. Thanks |
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Jul 3 2004, 07:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 214 Joined: 8-June 03 Member No.: 4,696 |
Critters use reaction as their combat skill, if memory serves.
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Jul 3 2004, 07:59 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
yeah, that's a very obscure rule. as i recall, it's in SR3 under Spirits and Dragons, and also in Critters. check the portion of each which talks about what each stat (Bod, Qui, etc.) means. under Rea, it should mention that critters use Rea as their combat skill.
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Jul 3 2004, 07:59 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It does serve. Reaction.
~J |
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Jul 3 2004, 09:17 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 30-June 04 Member No.: 6,448 |
Thanks... I thought it'd be something like that. Sometimes they put the information in the most obvious places.
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Jul 3 2004, 09:21 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
They can also use Combat Pool, using up to their Reaction in dice, for melee. It is calculated normally.
By the way, this is one of the reasons that insect spirit queens are so tough - they usually have a Reaction of Force x 3. For, say, a Force: 12 queen... well, you do the math. ;) |
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Jul 4 2004, 03:13 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
It's described in the "Statistics Key" on SR3.265:
It's a very poor place to put that attack information, as no one reads the statistics key. People only look at it to learn the meaning of the weird codes in the Body, Quickness, and Essence columns. No one looks at it to learn what "R" means. |
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Jul 4 2004, 06:01 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
In SR it is very possible to be a sterotypical burly Asian martial artist who successfully wrestles tigers and grizzly bears.
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Jul 4 2004, 02:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Earth Member No.: 1,274 |
Yup, Reaction is used as a critter's Melee Cmbat skill, with Combat Pool up to its rating and the usual uses of Karma Pool.
Of course, if you're dealing with a humanoid critter, IE: one derived from the metahuman races or a sentient that is capable of learning skills (Wendigos, Vampires, Ghouls, Dragons) then as a GM you'll have to add a few skills to the critters profile. I alway found it a bugger that there was no GM guide for magical powers for those critters capable of casting spells etc. IE: how many Force Points do you give a mage vampire or a dragon? What's the average Force rating? Etc. Maybe we can answer some of these in the upcoming Running Wild Sourcebook. |
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Jul 4 2004, 03:25 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
vampires and dragons don't have any force ratings. they have essence, and some of them have magic ratings. force is a stat that only applies to spirits (as far as critters are concerned).
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Jul 4 2004, 05:34 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In the shadows of the SK Arcology Essen, ADL Member No.: 1,934 |
Me thinks BBB talks of the spellpoints they should have. |
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Jul 8 2004, 01:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 379 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Earth Member No.: 1,274 |
Yup! Dead on there Rock-Steady.
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