Gel/Stun Rounds and Shotgun Perception TN, What TN Should Be Used? Options Track this topic Email this topic Print this topic Download this topic Subscribe to this forum Display Modes Outline Switch to: Standard Switch to: Linear+

[Cursedsoul]

I got to thinking just now about shotguns and their usefulness for a character concept I was thinking about. Shotguns, clubs (for using shotgun in melee), and pistols.

I was looking at the gel and stun rounds, and the shotgun sound suppression. It counts as full autofire and I don't agree with this for these rounds. -6TN to notice for a non-lethal round? I don't think so.

I'm sure most of us have heard a real live shotgun fired. Its loud as loud can be, but I've also seen the movies and documentaries where they use stun shells/bean bag bullets and listened to the sound. It just ISNT THAT GODS AWFUL LOUD.

I was thinking that instead of -6/-4 for naked/suppressed it should be brought down a peg to burstfire and become -4/-2.

I don't see the point in penalizing someone THAT heavily for using non-lethal rounds, especially when they logically don't make that much of a ruckus.

On a related note: Does anyone honestly enforce the crapola Defiance T-250 rules? Specifically I'm talking about the "oh the shortbarrelled version somehow loses a bleedin' damage level in the translation" -1 power is acceptable I suppose. -1DL can kiss my ass.

How tough can it be to simply cut the barrel and calibrate it in a shop? You lose a couple points of power but the DL should stay the same.

If not that's okay I suppose. A 4 conceal SA shotgun with no underbarrel mount is fine considering I'd be using it as a club. Speaking of which, what would you say the damage code is? I was thinking normal club, 1 reach and Str+1M stun damage.

I want to find a use for shotguns.

I suppose I can just take a Ruger 950, cut the barrel, and have a 4 conceal, 9S weapon. Remove the scope if at all possible for a total of 5 conceal. Hell, maybe even another +1conceal if I cut the stock off too. It'd be like, a really ugly rifle but with a potential 6 conceal and maybe even the rights to a holster that's kind of digusting.

Basically I want high power non-lethal takedown ability that can double as a melee weapon for when I've just gotta get up close and personal.