 Expendable Cities, any good ideas for one? |
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 Jul 11 2004, 08:38 PM
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Manus Celer Dei  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,952 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802  |
I need a city that could plausibly be decently large by the 2050s, with a vibrant biological/chemical/pharmaceutical/medical research community, but one that won't be missed (IE, one that isn't currently important and so probably won't be called on by metaplot or the random whims of the players). The original was Tokyo (actually, now that I remember, it wasn't Tokyo but a city nearby), but I think that's a little too major (and too JIS) for this.
Suggestions? ~J |
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Jul 11 2004, 08:40 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
Atlanta has the CDC and as far as I am aware, does not have any special role in Canon.
-Siege |
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Jul 11 2004, 08:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
Where's the Mayo Clinic or maybe John Hopkins? Wait, John Hopkins is mentioned in Cyberpirates, IIRC.
Atlanta doesn't sound all that bad as a choice. Don |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:07 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Sheboygan, WI. I'll be impressed if it becomes a pivotal city. :D
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Jul 11 2004, 09:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,709 |
Blow away Vancouver. Completely overshadowed by Seattle, but similar enough and close enough to have impact on the game, if not the canon. Home to a branch of Universal Omnitech, and also Pacific Cybernetics Incorporated. Eibisu Biomechanics and Kyuusei Medical are also based in Salish-Sidhe territory.
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Jul 11 2004, 09:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 12-June 04 Member No.: 6,398 |
I'd go with some place in Germany. Biotech, chemicals, and pharmaceuticals is what Saeder-Krupp is all about, and Germany does have a reputation (or at least they did if memory serves) for being a leader in those fields at one point. If not Germany, maybe somewhere in India.
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Jul 11 2004, 09:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
Atlanta is mentioned in Shadows of North America. Atlanta is also the capital of the CAS. Some might object to its disappearance. :) Johns Hopkins is in Baltimore. A smoking hole in the ground where Baltimore was would create new and challenging problems for FDC, much the same way Chicago did for Detroit and Milwaukee. |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 12-June 04 Member No.: 6,398 |
I don't think Kagetenshi meant "won't be missed" literally.
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Jul 11 2004, 09:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
Go with someplace in India. Most of the cities of Germany are already taken up with something. I also can't place any medical hotbeds. It usually happens that you could eliminate city quarters, but not the whole city. Go ahead and eliminate Tuebingen. It has a wonderful university and a large number of clinics (almost 1 doctor per 300 people or something like that). The only free ones that come to mind are Chemnitz (used to be Karl Marx City). It deserves it somehow. Don |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:27 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,952 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Well yeah, that's the problem :) I'm looking for something that isn't one, but could plausibly be one in 2050. I like Vancouver as an idea; how close are Vancouver and Seattle? Someplace in Germany would certainly be interesting. Anyone playing in my games, do not click spoiler below. [ Spoiler ] ~J |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
Kage, you're f***ing awesome. :D |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:33 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,952 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Why thank you :D
~J |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
Ack. Clicked on it before I realized it was YOU running it, Kage. :dead: Ah well. At the rate I get around to thing's you'll probably be done with it well before I manage to get my own character sheet ready. :P |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:40 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Haiti! Why stop at just a city? Take out the whole shitty little country! :D Seriously though, they've got the very shady John's Hopkins working down there, a racist facist dictatorship and voodoo. What's not to like? :)
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Jul 11 2004, 09:41 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,952 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Phaeton:
[ Spoiler ] ~J |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
...Dare I ask, Kage? :eek: |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 460 |
First of all, I object to blowing Vancouver away :P Now, you might say I am biased in the matter (being from Vancouver ... ) but I have another reason entirely.
It's one of the few major cities in the SSC and it *does* get Canon mention in some places. That aside, I say blow up Toronto if you want to take out a former Canadian city. :D Also, the Mayo Clinic is in Rochester, Minnesota I believe. (Post-Google Search - I win!) |
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Jul 11 2004, 10:07 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
It's pretty straightforward, but you really need to see it, rent it of you can. :D |
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Jul 12 2004, 12:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 27-January 03 From: Kentucky, USA Member No.: 3,958 |
Cleveland, OH.
After all, it's pretty nasty in places already. And no one would miss it if you did nuke it. ;) You've got lots of industry, commerce, some sports, some entertainment, and all the water traffic on Lake Erie. Not to mention pollution, crime, corruption, etc. |
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Jul 12 2004, 01:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 6,215 |
Ohio might be a good place to look in general. In addition to Cleveland, Cincinnati and Columbus (all of which contain universities and corporations that would take care of your requiremants), there's lower level cities like Akron, Dayton, and Delaware that are growing pretty quickly. And I imagine Ohio will be pretty much merged into 1 or 2 sprawls by the 50s or 60s, so if you need particulars you can borrow from other cities nearby and lump them as one big metroplex.
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Jul 12 2004, 02:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: 15-September 03 From: Worcester, MA Member No.: 5,621 |
Worcester, MA. Seriously. Would you believe it's the second largest city in New England? There's already a good deal of biotech research in the city, as well as within an hour or so drive. Admittedly, as a city, it's kinda overshadowed by Boston. And, right now, it's much more of a horizontal city than a vertical city (city laws mandate no new buildings higher than 3 stories without ultra-special approval). That's not too hard to deal with, though. It's also a bit rundown and grimy. And there's no way in *hell* that it's ever going to get mentioned in canon. Ever. And I hope you mean "not missed" to be "blown up". I like to imagine that happening sometimes.
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Jul 12 2004, 02:33 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Kesh and CCB had the same thoughts I did, something in Ohio. Major cities but nothing that won't be missed.
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Jul 12 2004, 02:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
Well, Tallahassee is fair game, I think, if you want to use a CAS...The mosquitos here need to be taught a lesson, the only big things here are the capitol tower and the governor's (also current prez's brother's) mansion...I think. Well, that and me, BGFMH(?), and a few others live here...But by 2060 I doubt we'll still be sticking around here. :D
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Jul 12 2004, 02:38 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
I thought Springfield was #2 in New England. Seriously Worcester's enough of a pit, who'd noticed?
Hartford might be a good call- it's a small city but surrounded by affluent suburbs, lots of Colleges (7) so you've got education, it's the center for Insurance Corps in the US so there's lots of corp environments and major defense industry- Colt fire arms and General Dynamics are in the suburbs and just down the river is Electric boat (submarines). It's tow hours from Boston and from New York so it's between major centers and it's got more media hubs in it than any other city in New England except Boston. |
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Jul 12 2004, 03:08 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Heh. I was going to suggest Worcester, MA. I guess you've been there?
Okay, here's a few for you (in no particular order): Bridgeport, CT (dying industrial city near NYC and if your ever drive through it, to quote Chevy Chase: "Roll 'em up!") Syracuse, NY (Centrally located, thirving pharmacutical corps, big mall) Elmira, NY (dying industrial city, Big prison, crappy town) New Haven, CT (well, Yale's there...not much else going on) Worcester, MA (see above) Manchester, NH (I actually like this city but have your way with it :vegm:) Let me know what you think. |
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