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post Jul 12 2004, 08:08 PM
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I don't remember seeing it anywhere on the forums, and at least me don't check very often what's happening on ShadowRN mailing list. And my guess is that what Bull had say may interest some people here.
QUOTE (Bull - Mon @ 28 Jun 2004 01:53:14 -0400)
Back from Origins.  Long convention.  Much fun.  Too much booze :)

Shadows of Europe was there.  It's huge, 240 pages, $30.00.  Looks nice.  Have only barely skimmed it, so can't really give an opinion on it yet beyond "Looks kinda cool".

SOTA 2064 and Mr. Johnson's Little Black Book will hopefully be available at gen Con, according to Rob at the What's up with Fanpro seminar.

Running Wild and Loose alliances will follow over the next few months, and Shadows of Asia is shooting for maybe early next year some time, probably Springish.

Next year there's an adventure set and what I believe will be a metaplot heavy sourcebook that will finally wrap up Deus storyline, as well as "other stuff".  Rob was keeping this info close to the vest, so there wasn't much info to share with this one.

Overall, looks like after the SoE snafu, things are back on track, and rather than complaining about no books, people can complain about too many :]  Things were heavily backlogged due to SoE's delays, but getting worked on still, so there's a pile of books in the "almost done" stage.

Also, FanPro has worked out a deal with WizKids, and chances are that we'll see PDF's for older sourcebooks sometime in the relatively near future (a few months is what Rob said), probably released through online PDF sale sites like RPGNow or DriveThruRPG.  Newer books probbaly won;t be avilable via PDF for at least 6 months after they are initially released.

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post Jul 12 2004, 08:38 PM
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Pdfs in the future? Now that's great. Time to get old adventures. Seriously, adventure pdfs for some companies are through the roof. Online buying is also through the roof, which really tweaks off your FLGS.

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post Jul 12 2004, 09:22 PM
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When's GenCon? and how much do pdfs like that typically cost?

.. I think that's all my questions for now.
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post Jul 12 2004, 09:31 PM
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Gencon is August 19-22 this year.

Pricing on any eBooks has yet to be determined, as it still depends on contracts being hammered out between FanPro and WizKids, and still may not happen.
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post Jul 13 2004, 06:17 AM
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Ooh, *warms up shiny new credit card* You and me gonna go spread some looove baby. Thoughts of Brainscan and Bug City leave me tingling...
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post Jul 13 2004, 06:31 AM
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mmm, pdf's.
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post Jul 13 2004, 08:59 AM
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Add me in to the drooling mass of fan boys. I can finally start getting them all onto a laptop,and stop hauling three 55 gallon tupper ware tubs of books in my trunk with me to play....
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post Jul 13 2004, 09:12 AM
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Me, I'm looking at picking up modules and stuff I might have missed, like Lone Star, Queen Euphoria, and UB, PoaD, Super Tuesday, etc.

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post Jul 14 2004, 07:27 AM
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PDFs would rock my world. :)

Here's hoping Shadows of Asia also includes Pacific islands such as Hawaii. Any idea what SotA 2064 is going to be? Just an update of 2063, or a whole slew of new information?

Also hoping Running Wild replaces the Critters book, as it's a pain to try and find that thing.
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post Jul 14 2004, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE (Kesh @ Jul 14 2004, 07:27 AM)
Any idea what SotA 2064 is going to be? Just an update of 2063, or a whole slew of new information?

As Rob mentioned and has been posted previously on this board, SOTA64 is to include all-new Adept material, espionage, law-enforcement, Euromagic and the regular Culture Shock feature with all new material.
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post Jul 14 2004, 12:58 PM
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I also hope that if it does, we get the pictures added back in. :D
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post Jul 14 2004, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (Kesh)
Here's hoping Shadows of Asia also includes Pacific islands such as Hawaii.

Me too.

*Bites Tongue & Twiddles Thumbs*
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post Jul 14 2004, 03:03 PM
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Hawai'i? I'd much rather prefer they missed that and concentrated on Asia/SE Asia and places like the Chinese warlord states. Since Hawai'i already got a- smallish- book and they're talking possible .pdf releases, much rather they not cover old ground. But that's just me. :)
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post Jul 15 2004, 07:06 AM
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Except from what I heard, the Hawaii book was more like an adventure with a little (real world) history thrown in. Not much to help out for SR.
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post Jul 15 2004, 01:14 PM
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Regardless, Hawai'i is not Asia... As it is, Asia will likely be missing sections... Sadly, namely Western Asia. Chances are SoA will focus heavily on Oriental Asia, according to Rob.

As I said in the Hawai'i sourcebook thread, if Hawai'i gets any sort of update, it'll be in a Target Book, if at all. Not really a huge amount of interest in it as it stands...

And yeah, I apparentoly forgot to crosspost this info, so thanks for reposting.

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post Jul 15 2004, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (Kesh)
Except from what I heard, the Hawaii book was more like an adventure with a little (real world) history thrown in. Not much to help out for SR.

Actually, most of the Source Material for Hawai'i is new information. It's true that it's not that big, overall, just like 8 or 12 pages. <shrug> But the fact is, there wasn't much needed. Some history to bring it "up to date" (As of 2054 or so, I think), some basic info on the current state of affairs, and that's about it. Hawai'i in 2054ish wasn't really much different than Hawai'i 1995, or whenever. And nothing much has changed since... Add a dragon, add a King, and season to flavor.

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post Jul 15 2004, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (Paul)
Add me in to the drooling mass of fan boys. I can finally start getting them all onto a laptop,and stop hauling three 55 gallon tupper ware tubs of books in my trunk with me to play....

I have three milk crates...

Machines

Magic/Locations

Core Rules

Gotta weight in at at least 100lbs....


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post Jul 17 2004, 01:32 AM
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Heh, we dragged all my Shadowrun books out back last night for a game.. I don;t have any of the redundant SR1/2 books, and I sold or gave away most of the place books and the like. So with the exception of the critters books, Sprawl Sites, Shadowbeat, and a few modules, the rest is every 3rd ed book so far :]

It's a stack about 3 feet high and weighs about 30 pounds ;)

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post Jul 17 2004, 03:33 AM
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yes pdf's are a must.
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post Jul 17 2004, 08:42 AM
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Gah! Call me a supermarket hunter/sportsman. I shoot my meat straight off the meat counter into my cart. Same for my veggies. :D
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post Jul 17 2004, 06:55 PM
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Oh I am so looking forwards to ShadowdOf Asia and State of the fucking art 2064
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post Jul 17 2004, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Bull @ Jul 16 2004, 06:32 PM)
It's a stack about 3 feet high and weighs about 30 pounds

A stack of Canon books weighs almost 45 kg per meter of height.

Using English weights, its very close to 1 lb. per cm. of height. A three foot high stack is about 90 cm., so it should weigh about 90 lbs.

:proof: ;)

/Edit: I know newbies shouldn't correct their elders. I'll apologize and buy you a beer at GenCon.
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post Jul 18 2004, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (Odin @ Jul 16 2004, 09:33 PM)
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While I generally don't give a damn, you might want to forget you typed that. At least, 'round here.
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post Jul 18 2004, 12:25 AM
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I think he was referring to having a friend with a scanner scan books you already own into PDFs to be used by you. While I'm not sure if even that is perfectly legal, I don't think there's anything really wrong with it -- you own the books already.

His post in the waiting-for-SoE-thread was much more out of line. [Edit]Oops, it was Can't get Magic in the Shadows, not about SoE. Still not exactly malicious, but probably against board regulations anyway. Not that I've never broken those...[/Edit]

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post Jul 18 2004, 12:59 AM
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I was just cautioning him because people tend to get their panties in a bind whenever the subject is broached.
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